VPNs

**Slick** · 03-01-2017, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by baldrick

easy as fcuk - sign up to an exchange in your own country - transfer some cash to your account - buy btc

I wouldn't say thats easy as fuk. Especially if nobody has done it before. Buying BTC is only a part of it. Then there is using it, blockchain, wallets, etc...

Originally Posted by baldrick

i use bx.in.th in thailand and coinhaiko in sing - both originally just wanted a selfie with your passport and the name of the site on a piece of paper - sing now requires a local mobile number that they send a confirmation text to

That link I posted above, "Circle" they use "Authy" Or "Google Authenticator" for their 2-step authentication as an option other than a phone number. Free smartphone apps. Very fukin handy as you can be anywhere in the world, as long as there is WIFI, you are good to go for transactions. No need to receive SMS authentication codes or a phone number at all.

Still kinda time consuming though, you need to constantly have money in your wallet as actually buying BTC and it making it to your wallet can take days on some sites if you are not completely setup & verified already. Its a process.

**Patrick** · 03-01-2017, 08:17 AM

Does anyone use Avira Phantom VPN Pro.?

Any comments on that?

Patrick

**baldrick** · 03-01-2017, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by blue

fuck this bitcoin with PayPal lark

where did I say anything about payal ? thats just a scam to sell you overpriced coin

Originally Posted by Slick

Especially if nobody has done it before

no body showed me how to do it - I was going to try the paypal/btc route , but a bit of googling and calculator indicated it was very much overinflated pricing

so a bit more googling and reading - find bitcoin exchange , look them up to see if there were any indications they were scams - and then hit the join button

https://www.kraken.com/ - for the europeans

I sent fractions around to my account in thai , sing and my wallet on my computer until I decided I knew what I was doing

watch some youtube

you cut and paste addresses so there should be no fat finger fcukups

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

you are dreaming a bit here, they are about to be made illegal eventually mark my words, and come back in 3 years to see where it is

butterfly - this discussion is above your paygrade - your drivel on subjects you think you know about will be made illegal before blockchain technology is

**Slick** · 03-01-2017, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by baldrick

no body showed me how to do it -

Same here. But there is a learning curve no doubt and also a base knowledge of puters' as well.

Originally Posted by baldrick

https://www.kraken.com/ - for the europeans

I have an account with this site as well linked to my US banking stuff. A lot of the legit BTC trading sites accept accounts in Pound, Dollar, and Euro.

**Slick** · 03-01-2017, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Patrick

Does anyone use Avira Phantom VPN Pro.?

Any comments on that?

Never used it but the 'pro' version is the paid one, so thats gonna be wholeheartedly better than free. Free ones don't work all that well.

What are you using it for?

**Dragonfly** · 03-01-2017, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by baldrick

butterfly - this discussion is above your paygrade - your drivel on subjects you think you know about will be made illegal before blockchain technology is

I am no plumber baldrick, so stop acting like one

you are obviously not reading the news from Central Banks and regulatory bodies, they are putting in place a few interesting things to block eventually the whole thing

we never know, bitcoins could finance terrorist activities

**Slick** · 03-01-2017, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

you are obviously not reading the news from Central Banks and regulatory bodies, they are putting in place a few interesting things to block eventually the whole thing

Banks can't do shit with bitcoin. Its a nothing burger as they don't get their fees. Regular banking systems don't want crypto currencies. Nothing they can do about it as the entire system is built on anonymity and independence from the 'regulatory bodies'

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

bitcoins could finance terrorist activities

Probably do in all honestly, but so does any paper currency + drug money.

**baldrick** · 03-01-2017, 03:04 PM

Bitcoin is only the most well known of the crypto curriencies and causes the know it alls to spout off like your average daily mail /usa today reader

the real tech is the blockchains and bitcoin's is but one with some issues with privacy and size coming to the fore

ethereum would be the next most well known -ETH - is not really even meant to be a currency , though you can trade it on exchanges etc - it is a computer itself , able to be programmed and allow 2 or more parties todesign contracts between themselves which are encoded in the blockchain and have hard and fast indicators as to when the contract or stages are completed - plus a lot more which is beyond me as yet - soon some country or NGO will step up and be encoding the ownership of land in the blockchain which means it will not be able to be changed without the assent of both parties - this is hugely important in africa

zerocash - ZEC - is a new blockchain designed to solve some of the bitcin problems with privacy - only started at the end of october after running as a test blockchain for a year or so.

no matter what the people denouncing this technology have to say , I would suggest people do some of their own research - maybe read a book or 2

this book I read earlier last year and is not too hard for beginners to understand

Blockchain Revolution: How the Technology Behind Bitcoin Is Changing Money, Business, and the World by Don Tapscott ? Reviews, Discussion, Bookclubs, Lists

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

we never know, bitcoins could finance terrorist activities

likely your pimp finances terrorist activities - every cc of sperm you swallow helps fund planes that crash in to churches full of kittens

**Dragonfly** · 03-01-2017, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Slick

Probably do in all honestly, but so does any paper currency + drug money.

but cryptocurrencies will be easier to block or ban eventually, and they are working on it. Those exchanges are going to be blacklisted by every payment systems eventually.

remember how unbreakable the dark internet and silk road website were

still an interesting concept to read and learn, but don't put all your money into it, or you will be crying in your beers

**Slick** · 03-01-2017, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

remember how unbreakable the dark internet and silk road website were

Still going strong. Right now.

**Sumbitch** · 03-01-2017, 10:03 PM

Seedboxes are everything Slick and Baldrick have posted but given the expense (like $20/mo-$40/mo for extreemseed.com) for what they offer (speed and anonymity but only to your torrent client), you have to share a lot of torrent files to make them cost effective. VPNs give you privacy , rather than anonymity, for every transaction you make on your computer.

**Sumbitch** · 03-01-2017, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Patrick

Avira Phantom VPN Pro

A couple of things you'll want to be sure of is that your VPN hides your internet activity from your internet provider and that your VPN uses some kind of encryption. The Tor browser hides from your ISP, sends only encrypted data and gives you a full range (low, medium, high and in between) of security and privacy options regardless if you have a VPN or no. What's your threat module? (high, medium, low). If its low, the additional cost of a VPN may not be worth the cost. But if its high there are big reasons to add the additional layer of anonymity and privacy that a VPN can provide. Here is macabre illustration of the importance of hiding your activity from your ISP:

This would have been a benefit to the student who sent in a bomb threat over Tor (not that I condone ever doing that), as he was deanonymized by being the only person to be using Tor at the time in Harvard's network logs. Using Tor through a VPN would have hidden the fact that he was using Tor at all.

Read about using Tor with and without a VPN and see a list of the Dark Net markets that reside on the hidden internet. WARNING: don't go there, even for surfing, if you're not using TOR or similar browser (ie open source free software for enabling anonymous communication) and there are only a couple of alternatives to TOR. https://www.deepdotweb.com/jolly-rog...or-with-a-vpn/

**Sumbitch** · 03-01-2017, 11:15 PM

There's a documentary about the Deep Web and bitcoin that u can, ahem, download here:https://thepiratebay.org/search/deep%20web/0/99/200

Common definitions:

The Surface Web is anything that can be indexed by a typical search engine like Google, Bing or Yahoo.

the Deep Web is anything that a search engine can’t find

The Dark Web then is classified as a small portion of the Deep Web that has been intentionally hidden and is inaccessible through standard web browsers.

**Jesus Jones** · 03-01-2017, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Sumbitch

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

I have paid for IPVanish and can barely browse when connected. Used it two years ago and it was great. Decided to sign up again recently and it takes minutes to open a page. Like being on dial-up again.

Have you selected the fastest and closest server? The servers are listed along with their current capacity (the lower the better) on their website. I chose the Bangkok server and Speedtest.net by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test gave me a ping of 17 ms, a download speed of 70 Mbps and an upload speed of 30 Mbps, which is faster than what I'm paying for. For newbies and n00bs:

The ping is the reaction time of your connection–how fast you get a response after you've sent out a request. A fast ping means a more responsive connection, especially in applications where timing is everything (like video games). Ping is measured in milliseconds (ms).

The download speed is how fast you can pull data from the server to you. Most connections are designed to download much faster than they upload, since the majority of online activity, like loading web pages or streaming videos, consists of downloads. Download speed is measured in megabits per second (Mbps).

The upload speed is how fast you send data from you to others. Uploading is necessary for sending big files via email, or in using video-chat to talk to someone else online (since you have to send your video feed to them). Upload speed is measured in megabits per second (Mbps).

IPVanish is rated #1 by the Tor project:

What is Tor?

Tor is free software and an open network that helps you defend against traffic analysis, a form of network surveillance that threatens personal freedom and privacy, confidential business activities and relationships, and state security.

Why Anonymity Matters

Tor protects you by bouncing your communications around a distributed network of relays run by volunteers all around the world: it prevents somebody watching your Internet connection from learning what sites you visit, and it prevents the sites you visit from learning your physical location.

Tried BKK and Sing. Still frustratingly slow.

**Sumbitch** · 03-01-2017, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

Tried BKK and Sing. Still frustratingly slow.

You know your VPN is on if your upload speed is faster than your download speed.

**Jesus Jones** · 03-01-2017, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by Sumbitch

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

Tried BKK and Sing. Still frustratingly slow.

You know your VPN is on if your upload speed is faster than your download speed.

My VPN hasn't been on for months because it has been shit. Only ever used it on my home desktop.

However, it seems it's a problem with my desktop. Just installed on my laptop and it seems fine.

**Sumbitch** · 03-01-2017, 11:48 PM

I can't find any mention of a Sing VPN on the web. I get it. U mean Singapore. What VPN do u have?

**Slick** · 04-01-2017, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

Tried BKK and Sing. Still frustratingly slow.

whats your internet speed without the VPN? And when its enabled?

**Dragonfly** · 04-01-2017, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

remember how unbreakable the dark internet and silk road website were

Still going strong. Right now.

of course still there, but well infiltrated

**Pragmatic** · 07-02-2017, 01:30 PM

Can anyone recommend 'Avast SecureLine'? I did try a VPN but it made my computer so slow I gave up on it. It came on a free trial. I don't know if that was why it was so slow?

**harrybarracuda** · 07-02-2017, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Can anyone recommend 'Avast SecureLine'? I did try a VPN but it made my computer so slow I gave up on it. It came on a free trial. I don't know if that was why it was so slow?

I wouldn't recommend Avast anything.

Surely Chrome with Browsec extension is all you need.

**baldrick** · 07-02-2017, 02:12 PM

I am still unsure why people would get a VPN just for torrents

use a seedbox

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Surely Chrome

fcuk chrome - it is going evil

start looking at seamonkey and palemoon for your next browser

**bsnub** · 07-02-2017, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by baldrick

I am still unsure why people would get a VPN just for torrents

use a seedbox

I use both for various reasons as well as private trackers which blow away the public ones for quality of content.

**Pragmatic** · 07-02-2017, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Surely Chrome with Browsec extension is all you need.

Its availabe on Firefox so I'll give it a go. Thanks to all.

**Sumbitch** · 07-02-2017, 03:08 PM

^ DotVPN and ZenMate are available for Chrome.

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