WINDOWS 10 What do you think

**david44** · 02-01-2016, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by baldrick

windows 10 - so efficient , you don't need to email the NSA your encryption keys

https://theintercept.com/2015/12/28/...ncryption-key/

One of the excellent features of new Windows devices is that disk encryption is built-in and turned on by default, protecting your data in case your device is lost or stolen. But what is less well-known is that, if you are like most users and login to Windows 10 using your Microsoft account, your computer automatically uploaded a copy of your recovery key – which can be used to unlock your encrypted disk – to Microsoft's servers, probably without your knowledge and without an option to opt-out.
During the "crypto wars" of the nineties, the National Security Agency developed an encryption backdoor technology – endorsed and promoted by the Clinton administration – called the Clipper chip, which they hoped telecom companies would use to sell backdoored crypto phones. Essentially, every phone with a Clipper chip would come with an encryption key, but the government would also get a copy of that key – this is known as key escrow – with the promise to only use it in response to a valid warrant. But due to public outcry and the availability of encryption tools like PGP, which the government didn't control, the Clipper chip program ceased to be relevant by 1996. (Today, most phone calls still aren't encrypted. You can use the free, open source, backdoorless Signal app to make encrypted calls.)
The fact that new Windows devices require users to backup their recovery key on Microsoft's servers is remarkably similar to a key escrow system, but with an important difference. Users can choose to delete recovery keys from their Microsoft accounts (you can skip to the bottom of this article to learn how) – something that people never had the option to do with the Clipper chip system. But they can only delete it after they've already uploaded it to the cloud

So Balders is 10 a go?

As a fairly harmless ,pennless idiot, a trip to Guantanamo, anOrange tracksuit and a change of diet might be an upgrade for me.

Will installing 10 damage my libido or bowel movements, my cleaner awaits, I think we deserve to know

Sent from my Remington Typewriter

**baldrick** · 02-01-2016, 12:58 PM

well the latest news out of 32C3 seems to indicate that the OS is not the actual problem

Trustworthy x86 laptops? There is a way, says system-level security ace ? The Register

Intel ME is a microcontroller, and part of Intel's AMT hardware and firmware technology which allows administrators to remotely manage the hardware over network – all underneath whatever operating system is running. As this management is conducted at a low-level in the stack, it dodges the OS – meaning overwriting your out-of-the-box Windows installation with a Linux distro will not guarantee any trustworthiness.
The ME microcontroller comes with its own RAM, it can access the system's RAM, and it has its own private ROM of firmware code, which nobody may inspect. “It runs a whole bunch of proprietary programs,” said Rutkowska, “and even runs Intel's own proprietary operating system, and this is all happening whenever you have some power connected to your processor, even in sleep mode, and it could be doing anything it wants.”

**david44** · 02-01-2016, 01:34 PM

Interesting read, so why bother will al these passwords if there is no real security?

Is TOR the way forward or quantum computing?

**Munted** · 03-01-2016, 01:33 PM

Can't go win10 my video card is 'incompatable'. Works OK for win7. Big FU windows.

**Sumbitch** · 03-01-2016, 03:59 PM

Amen.

**david44** · 15-01-2016, 12:00 AM

Microsoft expands Get Windows 10 program to domains, publishes opt-out instructions | ZDNet
Microsoft expands Get Windows 10 program to domains, publishes opt-out instructions
As the year-long free upgrade offer for Windows 10 nears the halfway mark, Microsoft is getting more aggressive, with new plans to begin displaying the GWX taskbar icon and upgrade prompts on business PCs that had previously been off-limits.
t the same time as today's announcement, Microsoft finally published updated instructions for opting out of the automatic upgrade and disabling the GWX icon. The new instructions, available in KB article 3080351, match those I published last week. (See "How to block Windows 10 upgrades on your business network (and at home, too)" for details.)

To prevent the Windows 10 upgrade from being offered in Windows Update, IT pros can set a Group Policy object. Note that this policy setting is only available if the appropriate updates (first issued last July) are installed: 3065987 is the Windows 7 update; 3065988 is the equivalent for Windows 8.1.

The policy is available on Windows 7 Professional and Ultimate and Windows 8.1 Pro machines using the Local Group Policy Editor (Gpedit.msc).

**harrybarracuda** · 15-01-2016, 12:41 PM

New build out this week (11099).

As with the previous build, this build does not include big noticeable changes or new features yet. Our focus through the holidays was on structural improvements to OneCore, which is the shared core of Windows across devices. The code refactoring and other engineering work we’ve been doing to optimize OneCore is nearing the point where we will be ready for teams to begin checking in new features and improvements. It will still be a few builds before any really noticeable changes show up, depending on when teams begin lighting up new features in their areas.

**david44** · 15-01-2016, 01:14 PM

Thanks Harry , as you know I'm pretty dumb with technology, I'm not over concerned if CIA want to read my posts here or emails, more that my online banking airline purchases etc are secure and that the upgrade wont block any of my exising progs.

Are you upgrading to 10, it looks like we'll all be pushed that route then locked in to paying for patches?
With XP unsupported its only logical that Vista 8.1 etc will end up unsupported by 2020 say?

I have around 5 months to upgrade free so not urgent but if the consensus is its good might as well dive in and get used to it?

**harrybarracuda** · 15-01-2016, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by david44

Thanks Harry , as you know I'm pretty dumb with technology, I'm not over concerned if CIA want to read my posts here or emails, more that my online banking airline purchases etc are secure and that the upgrade wont block any of my exising progs.

Are you upgrading to 10, it looks like we'll all be pushed that route then locked in to paying for patches?
With XP unsupported its only logical that Vista 8.1 etc will end up unsupported by 2020 say?

I have around 5 months to upgrade free so not urgent but if the consensus is its good might as well dive in and get used to it?

There are loads of free packages to turn off all the data collection options.

It's fast, reliable and easy to use.

Shitloads better than Windows 8.x or any previous version.

**can123** · 15-01-2016, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Shitloads better than Windows 8.x or any previous version. harrybarracuda is online now Add to harrybarracuda's Reputation Report Post

.... but it has bugs and you will be lucky to retain your properly configured "start button" for more than a couple of days. Not an encouraging start, I'm afraid.

**baldrick** · 15-01-2016, 07:03 PM

win 7 lite

**harrybarracuda** · 15-01-2016, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Shitloads better than Windows 8.x or any previous version. harrybarracuda is online now Add to harrybarracuda's Reputation Report Post

.... but it has bugs and you will be lucky to retain your properly configured "start button" for more than a couple of days. Not an encouraging start, I'm afraid.

Got it on Two desktops, Two laptops, an AIO and four tablets, and I have to say you're wrong.

What are you trying to run it on, a Pentium II?

**can123** · 15-01-2016, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Got it on Two desktops, Two laptops, an AIO and four tablets, and I have to say you're wrong. What are you trying to run it on, a Pentium II?

There are no prizes for guessing that you would say I was wrong. Poxy thing isn't working and lasted all of three days before it gave up the ghost.

**harrybarracuda** · 15-01-2016, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Got it on Two desktops, Two laptops, an AIO and four tablets, and I have to say you're wrong. What are you trying to run it on, a Pentium II?

There are no prizes for guessing that you would say I was wrong. Poxy thing isn't working and lasted all of three days before it gave up the ghost.

I think you misunderstand, and more to the point you avoided my question.

If I haven't seen this behaviour on NINE devices (7 different brands), the only reason I can think that your install is shit is that there is something abnormal about it.

So what is it?

**can123** · 15-01-2016, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Got it on Two desktops, Two laptops, an AIO and four tablets, and I have to say you're wrong. What are you trying to run it on, a Pentium II?

There are no prizes for guessing that you would say I was wrong. Poxy thing isn't working and lasted all of three days before it gave up the ghost.

I think you misunderstand, and more to the point you avoided my question.

If I haven't seen this behaviour on NINE devices (7 different brands), the only reason I can think that your install is shit is that there is something abnormal about it.

So what is it?

Nothing abnormal about my computer. The button was working for three days and stopped. It is accepted that there is a bug and Microsoft are supposed to be trying to find it.

Nine devices ? Seven different brands ? Poor bugger. Get one tidy one and use it properly.

**harrybarracuda** · 16-01-2016, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Got it on Two desktops, Two laptops, an AIO and four tablets, and I have to say you're wrong. What are you trying to run it on, a Pentium II?

There are no prizes for guessing that you would say I was wrong. Poxy thing isn't working and lasted all of three days before it gave up the ghost.

I think you misunderstand, and more to the point you avoided my question.

If I haven't seen this behaviour on NINE devices (7 different brands), the only reason I can think that your install is shit is that there is something abnormal about it.

So what is it?

Nothing abnormal about my computer. The button was working for three days and stopped. It is accepted that there is a bug and Microsoft are supposed to be trying to find it.

Nine devices ? Seven different brands ? Poor bugger. Get one tidy one and use it properly.

Actually that was a bug in an old build and easily fixed.

Why don't you try using the latest one (11099).

Or just google how to fix it.

Piece of piss.

**david44** · 16-01-2016, 02:26 PM

So the so called upgrade has wrinkles so far, is that the expert consensus, is it better to await a more stable version?

I'd imagine as the free offer end looms many will be nudged on myself included, I hope it is an improvement that will last.
Ive run a 2007 and 2009 Macbook without ever one single problem and no pop ups from the manufacturer to disturb my serenity.Of course dealing with backward 3rd world bureaucracies have to use Widows sometimes

**Bettyboo** · 16-01-2016, 02:50 PM

^ it's stable. As MS s/w goes, it's great; it works very well. But, the fukers are bending you over and removing your panties which some may like, and most accept.

**david44** · 16-01-2016, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

bending you over

nice racy metaphor , could you expand, via bloatware,fees, loss of privacy or what?

**lom** · 16-01-2016, 03:29 PM

Free 1 year = dropping the soap

**can123** · 16-01-2016, 04:17 PM

Fix: Start Menu Disappears in Windows 10

This site provides the answer. There is still a bug with Windows 10. Mine is working again now but it is hardly "a piece of piss".

**harrybarracuda** · 16-01-2016, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by can123

Fix: Start Menu Disappears in Windows 10

This site provides the answer. There is still a bug with Windows 10. Mine is working again now but it is hardly "a piece of piss".

I think a chimp could follow those instructions.

**can123** · 16-01-2016, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I think a chimp could follow those instructions.

.... but only a kind, caring, considerate person would find it and make it available to his fellow forum members and their monkeys.

**david44** · 16-01-2016, 05:59 PM

diolch yn fawr

**can123** · 16-01-2016, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by david44

diolch yn fawr

No need to thank me. Being born in my town ensures that the individual is nothing other than helpful to his fellow man. We are all lovely down here.

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