My preference would be for Lenovo.Quote:
Originally Posted by wjblaney
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My preference would be for Lenovo.Quote:
Originally Posted by wjblaney
I've had bad experiences with HP, particularly the low end machines which seem to be rebranded Compaq rubbish; shite screens especially; but you don't get what you dont pay for...
I've had good experience with Dell; granted I paid 25k and 32k for the two Dells I had, but they worked very well for 3 years, and I was very happy with them; very good home service repairs and phone service centre in Thailand too, from my experience (the missus was always downloading rubbish from Thai internet sites and fuking her machine up; Dell always had them up and running again...).
I'd agree that Lenovo seem to be really good machines, but I've never owned one; I may buy one next time.
I also had a cheap Fujitsu (under 20k) that I bought at Pantip and the Dell was better in every way (more money, and worth it...).
So, you kinda get what you pay for, but I've had 2 Dell machines in Thailand and very good all round experiences with them. Of course, for 30k you can get an iTard device with a far lower spec to look cool at Siam Sq...
I've owned Thinkpads from IBM and then Lenovo, all were solid performers and sturdily built. They might not be the prettiest things out there but they were/are reliable and they tended to be easier to get Linux onto and get all the bells and whistles (like multi-media buttons and sleep/hibernate stuff etc) working in case that is an issue but it probably won't be nowadays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bettyboo
Think of them as the Land Rovers of laptops.
The only thing to watch out for is the model numbering on Lenovos - it is a labyrinth. Seemingly identical machines will have one missing a VGA port but having a finger-print scanner and the other having a swappable drive bay but a small (by today's standards ) HDD as standard or some other crap like that.
It pays to take a lot of time to read carefully the specs of what you are buying because they are so highly configurable that models seem to overlap sometimes if you go by the name only.
Oh, and if you've never used a laptop with a trackpoint you do not know what you are missing! :)
Anyway, that's my tuppence worth.
Perhaps the Apple doesn't need such a high spec because its operating system isn't a hideous bloated piece of virus-bait with years and years of kludges and patches pasted all over it running a kernel so fucked up that even the developers admit they do not know what chunks of it does? But I'm sure you knew that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bettyboo
Me too, back in me working days - always used them; no problems at all. Standard workhorses.Quote:
Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
I know very little... :) I'm not against the iApple ethos per se, but I dislike the way the brand treats consumers as idiots, and they are a pain in the arse to connect with other equipment (which is one requirement I have, and where windows running machines are simple and usually just work...).Quote:
Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
My requirements have changed a lot; I now use a cheap HP tablet as my portable, and my laptop is just a home media hub which I can pick up and take somewhere else when I want to.
Phew, I have sentimental ties to HP (worked on their mini computers for a good deal of my career). I'm glad I won't be making that stupid mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bettyboo
That's good news. I really connected with the sales guy. He was very knowledgeable, answered all my questions, will sell me a second hard drive to swap my old hard drive to and help me out with all the installation irks and quirks. Needless to say, I thought the computers looked cool, although I didn't realize the ultra-slims don't have CD/DVD drives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bettyboo
So it's down to lenovo or Dell then.Quote:
Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
What are VGA ports and a swappable drive bay commonly used for? I take it HDD stands for High Definition Drive? I hadn't thought about that. Obviously, no need for a finger print scanner.Quote:
Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
I'll add them to my list then.Quote:
Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
^they are the same... :)
American company IBM was bought out by a Chinese company and became Lenovo...
VGA is an ouput for a screen, not used nowadays except for some projectors; HDMi and USB2/3 ports are used now. I connect to my TV and other screens via an HDMi port; most folks do - you don't need a VGA port (it's the old style PIN adapter) for home/general use.
Female 15 pin VGA:
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But you want an HDMi (which they virtually all come with nowadays):
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& the cable that connects this to your TV:
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Industry standard, so no issues, work perfectly (unless you have an iApple device then you will be needing their special adapters...).
Swappable drives are just that: a hard drive that can be easily put in and taken out; might be a security feature, might be for backups, might be for portability; I don't see that many folks would need one for personal use on a laptop; I've never used one.
Or, you could mean 2 physical drives on your machine (both are internal and can't easily be taken out, but tasks can be swapped between the two - as companies may use for various reasons with servers, etc...), but usually people have just one disk drive and partition it (C drive, D drive) to use for different things. Basically, your processor can input and output to different things: printer, TV, disk drive, etc, so you have many options, but mostly a single drive and some form of backup (online or via a usb drive) does the job; the world's your oyster... Anyways, I only have basic knowledge in these areas, so I'll leave it for the technical folks... :)
^I followed that Lenovo bought out the Thinkpad series. I know what the HDMi port is used for too since I connect my TV to my laptop also. There's just too technology these days to keep it all in my head at the same time. I wonder what I've forgotten today.
That sounds like a cool feature. But it's the only built-in HD? I need two. Don't care really if they're built-in or not, I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bettyboo
It is an old technology true, but I find having a VGA port is always handy because it is like a sort of default fallback. Not everything has HDMI but damn near everything has a VGA port.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bettyboo
I actually said "swappable drive bays". Some Lenovo (and maybe other manufacturers) sell machines with a bay that can hold a CD/DVD drive, an extra hard drive, a floppy drive (!) or another battery. It is actually quite a useful feature and one of the reasons I liked ThinkPads. Being able to take out the CD drive and put in another battery is very handy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bettyboo
I'm using your post instead of taking notes. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
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Originally Posted by wjblaney
Pricey they are, what are you gonna be using your laptop for WJB?
If I was in the market for a new laptop, I'd be looking at Asus, or Acer who give great after service.
Around 20,000 baht will get you one with a decent graphics card and an i5 processor which will pretty much whizz through near everything and have a better battery life than an i7
Steer clear of touchscreen laptops, they're a gimmick and pricier
The list is where I wanted to start because of a combination of fear of anything bought in Asia and ignorance. However, I certainly appreciate bargains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dillinger
What I want it for is a media center (like Windows). Other than that, it's for gmail, forums and FB.
What I mentioned will do you fine mate.
14'
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http://www.ibuyathome.com/en/product...ttern-gkeemuk/
15'
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I bought a Dell 1525 about 4 or 5 years ago still runnig strong. Was far less than what you're quoting 750 GB HD. Windows XP OS, now obsolete, but still klicking along...Quote:
Originally Posted by wjblaney
Nip down to Panthip Plaza to buy one, you will need to stick an operating system on it too, which they will do for you in there.
You mentioned Asus and Acer but the pic and link are for an HP. I mean it looks awesome. Drop the other two and go for the HP immediately? That awesome?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dillinger
Is that in Chiang Mai? Also forgot, Bettyboo doesn't like HP. Who knows computers best, d'ya thin'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dillinger
I think Dell is getting more lip here than anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by ltnt
I have an HP touchscreen now - it is crap. As Dil says: Do NOT get a touchscreen laptop! Especially a cheap touchscreen...
If I were buying a laptop now that I wanted to work well for the next 3 years, I'd buy a Dell, Lenovo or ASUS i5 for about 25,000 baht. I like 14" as it's small but with a decent sized screen and keyboard; but that's a preference, some folks like 15", some like a nice big 17"screen, me missus is happy with a small 13"screen. Upto your preference.
I wouldn't buy a machine under 20k unless your budgets forces you to do so. High end i7 machines are a waste of money for the average user like us (actually, an i3 works very well for everything we will do...).
I've sorted that now:)Quote:
Originally Posted by wjblaney
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So after all this what exactly did TheGentSeekingasylum buy ??
I hope he was,nt another wannabe Mac owner who,s bottle went when he got to the till ?
I got loads of mates I work with ,, all gonna buy a Mac" next time round " always come back with another piece of £300 all singing all dancing piece of shit that is virused up and choked to death with incompatible file endings , a year later .
What they fail to understand is these £300 machines times 4 years = £1200
My 4 year old Macbook pro @ £800 is still as good as the day I bought it , infact I have just turned down an offer of £400 from one of the wannabes :)
Might as well get a solid state drive if you don't need massive storage... :)
&, if you're using almost entirely for home use then why get a small screen? You don't need ultra portability...
I prefer the cheap type with two legs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bettyboo
The prices I quoted were all for the large screen models, prolly 17" then. If I get a smaller screen, it should get the price down into the 25k range.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bettyboo
Not sure I agree 17" are a waste of money, if you want to watch movies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bettyboo
Don't blame yourself. Blame teakdoor. You prolly just didn't preview. I've posted quotes other people made. As recently as today, I've previewed a quote attributed to the wrong person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dillinger
Too old to learn Mac.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigelandjan