What computer should I buy?

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Fine piece of art

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Oh for gods sake man.

Would you spend a month umming and aaahing, yessing and no-ing and blitherting and blathering before you bought a fridge, microwave or air con unit.

Computers are no more than throwaway white goods, otherwise why would the canny manufacturers update the design and over spec them every five minutes, thereby rendering your purchase and your seemingly precious street cred obsolete, there is no possible justification in extolling the debateable virtues and drooling emotionally like a wet knickered teenager over a lifeless machine that will eventually disappoint you in much the same way as a high maintenance piece of well presented minge will.

Man up and get yourself an Acer. You know it makes perfect sense.

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Originally Posted by taxexile

Man up and get yourself an Acer. You know it makes perfect sense.

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Which model would you recommend and why?

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Originally Posted by bsnub

They want to look trendy at that local coffee house with that stupid apple logo on the back of their laptop. Idiots.

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Not just on the back of they're laptops ,, the sticker one that came with my Macbook now sits firmly on the back of my sandwich box ,, sets me up on a pedestal above the other drivers in the tea hut it does :)

Can I get an Acer with OS Mavericks or the forthcoming Yosemite?

Nope, so there you are.

I am no longer shackled to Windows. I am free from that tyranny and the wretchedness of all those who target it's carcass for the want of something to do.

I have seen the light, and it is Apple. Redeemed at last and all you flatearthers can but gnash away in your resentment at we more enlightened whose apostasy has released us from our torment.

Welcome Gatekeeper and may you protect us from all cyber Ebola.

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Originally Posted by Dillinger

Get a surface pro, you will see how shite and limited those haemmorrhoid tablets are

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30k baht! Ouch! That's apple price territory. Does look like a good unit.

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Originally Posted by thegent

So, who would use a Mac Pro and for what?

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Traditionally people who use either processor/ram heavy software for video or audio production.

^can do HD/4k on a RAM heavy tablet nowadays...

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Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

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Originally Posted by taxexile

Man up and get yourself an Acer. You know it makes perfect sense.

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Which model would you recommend and why?

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For e mail, forum posting, photo storage and general googling and you tubing I would by any special offer they had going in the 250-300 pound range, maybe a run out model with Windows 7.

I'm in the UK at the moment, and 200-300 pounds would get me something fast enough and well specced enough for my needs, which are probably similar to thegents.

I've been using an Acer laptop on Windows 7 for 3 years now, bought in the UK for 240 pounds, its fast and its never missed a beat, in spite of the heat and dust of Thailand.

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^can do HD/4k on a RAM heavy tablet nowadays...

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Apple owns the software mostly so proffessionals in those areas had no choice "Traditionally"

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Originally Posted by taxexile

For e mail, forum posting, photo storage and general googling and you tubing I would by any special offer they had going in the 250-300 pound range, maybe a run out model with Windows 7.

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Spot on, although a hundred quid will suffice.

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Originally Posted by thegent

Can I get an Acer with OS Mavericks or the forthcoming Yosemite?

Nope, so there you are.

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You have a lot to learn genticles. PC's have been running mac OS for years and I myself once had a dual boot system that could run both mac OS and windows. Like I have said before the hardware under the hood of a mac is usually two or three generations behind what is available on the open market and it is overpriced as well. You are better off buying that Acer and installing a dual boot setup or just installing
OS maverick on it. However, if you insist on throwing good money down the drain for dated tech then have at it.

See here;

How to install OS X Mavericks on your PC with Niresh

http://www.hackintosh.com/

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Originally Posted by thegent

I have seen the light, and it is Apple.

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I didn't realize you were religious.

Isn't it just easier to buy Mac in the first place. Also, it's piracy and I don't approve of that.

Apple stuff isn't that expensive and from what I have seen their hardware is similar to everyone else's at roughly the same price.

I just don't get this silly rivalry. It's like Australians with their Ford or Vauxhall shite - I mean, who gives a fuck?

Although I do thank you for the information. I had heard about hackintoshs before but didn't really focus on these. Sure software updates and fixes would be missed?

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Originally Posted by thegent

Apple stuff isn't that expensive and from what I have seen their hardware is similar to everyone else's at roughly the same price.

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If you are ok paying 40-50% percent more for a device with identical hardware then have at it. I prefer to get the most bang for my buck.

You will make your decision and most likely be happy with whatever device you choose my point was simply that you get far more for your money buying a PC.

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Originally Posted by bsnub

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Originally Posted by thegent

Can I get an Acer with OS Mavericks or the forthcoming Yosemite?

Nope, so there you are.

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You have a lot to learn genticles. PC's have been running mac OS for years and I myself once had a dual boot system that could run both mac OS and windows. Like I have said before the hardware under the hood of a mac is usually two or three generations behind what is available on the open market and it is overpriced as well. You are better off buying that Acer and installing a dual boot setup or just installing
OS maverick on it. However, if you insist on throwing good money down the drain for dated tech then have at it.

See here;

How to install OS X Mavericks on your PC with Niresh

Hackintosh Instructions, Hackintosh How To Guides: Hackintosh.com

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never heard of that
sounds an interesting idea but looking into it I'm not sure it would work on the average Acer laptop-
or am I misreading it ?.

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Can I install OS X on my PC? Read this first.

Graphics card: Besides the motherboard, this is probably the most important part of your build. Mac OS X often does not work with the built-in ("integrated") graphics on motherboards or CPUs; you can check the CPU section below for more info. In those cases, you will have to buy a separate graphics card for your computer.

When it comes to Mac OS X compatibility, laptops are even worse than pre-built desktop computers. As mentioned earlier, very few WiFi cards work with OS X, and if your trackpad turns out to be incompatible, you can't even get past the first page of the Mac OS X installer.

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Can I install OS X on my PC? Read this first.

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Originally Posted by blue

never heard of that sounds an interesting idea but looking into it I'm not sure it would work on the average Acer laptop-

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It's a waste of time, and quite funny that the same people who spew venom whenever anything Apple is mentioned will jump through all sorts of hoops to try and get OS X running on their machines.

Much simpler to install Linux or one of the BSDs and skin it to look like OS X and use free substitutes to replace things like iPhoto if that's what you want.

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

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Originally Posted by thegent

If I wanted a tablet I'd get an IPad.

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Of course you would, you are Apple's biatch.

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Meet Apple's 'Queen' on her iBed......

https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies1/You_Rock_Emoticon.gif

After reading Harry's post......

https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies1/You_Rock_Emoticon.gif

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Originally Posted by blue

Can I install OS X on my PC? Read this first.

Graphics card: Besides the motherboard, this is probably the most important part of your build. Mac OS X often does not work with the built-in ("integrated") graphics on motherboards or CPUs; you can check the CPU section below for more info. In those cases, you will have to buy a separate graphics card for your computer.

When it comes to Mac OS X compatibility, laptops are even worse than pre-built desktop computers. As mentioned earlier, very few WiFi cards work with OS X, and if your trackpad turns out to be incompatible, you can't even get past the first page of the Mac OS X installer.

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Minor issues blue that are easily worked around.

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Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

It's a waste of time, and quite funny that the same people who spew venom whenever anything Apple is mentioned will jump through all sorts of hoops to try and get OS X running on their machines.

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It may be a waste of time for a moron who cant figure out how to do it properly. In my case I needed to use the OS X simply to make sure it was funtioning properly over a network I had installed at a small business. Since I do not own any apple products I had to install it on one of my spare desktops. Really quite easy and worked just fine but after I finished that project I wiped that drive. No need for it.

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Originally Posted by bsnub

In my case I needed to use the OS X simply to make sure it was funtioning properly over a network I had installed at a small business.

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What network functionality were you testing that had to be done on a non-Apple computer running OS X?

It looks like thegent has been fannying around for too long. Fifth generation intel will be on the market for Christmas.

I wonder which OS will be flavour-of-the-month early next year.

Selling all these high power gadgets allows Apple and MS to get away with ineffecient software and bloatware....

Will Apple be getting thegents money anytime soon?

Troy, pay attention. We've been through this before.

The Mac Mini, my favoured choice, is due for an imminent update. Some believe its delay is because Intel are behind with Broadwell which should have been supplied this summer but development hitches have prevented this.

The Mini, if it is to be continued, will doubtless feature at least the Haswell chip, better wifi connectivity and upgrade in the graphics. Given their current market strategy, it's likely Apple will hold the price as it is.

Mind you at this rate by the time they sort themselves out the next iteration of Intel's tick-tock strategy will be available next summer which I believe is the Skylake.

This is all quite whizzo stuff and I find myself getting into it a bit more. I used to consider it all so tedious but it's actually quite fascinating.

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Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

What network functionality were you testing that had to be done on a non-Apple computer running OS X?

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FFS, he was only playing Angry Birds :)

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Originally Posted by thegent

Troy, pay attention. We've been through this before. The Mac Mini, my favoured choice, is due for an imminent update. Some believe its delay is because Intel are behind with Broadwell which should have been supplied this summer but development hitches have prevented this. The Mini, if it is to be continued, will doubtless feature at least the Haswell chip, better wifi connectivity and upgrade in the graphics. Given their current market strategy, it's likely Apple will hold the price as it is. Mind you at this rate by the time they sort themselves out the next iteration of Intel's tick-tock strategy will be available next summer which I believe is the Skylake. This is all quite whizzo stuff and I find myself getting into it a bit more. I used to consider it all so tedious but it's actually quite fascinating.

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Apologies thegent, I was daydreaming at the back of the class again...

Internet rumours suggest an Apple media release next week. Will they mention an update to the mini?

Christmas is too early for a Broadwell based mini. Easter is more likely or a haswell instead.

You can spend your waiting time brushing up on photo editing skills.

BTW how much RAM does the mac use before the user gets a look in? Anyone know? W7 can take 1.5GB. Gnome on my SUSE box takes around 256MB, although kde is a lot heavier...in the 1GB range.

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Originally Posted by thegent

This is all quite whizzo stuff and I find myself getting into it a bit more. I used to consider it all so tedious but it's actually quite fascinating.

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Be prepared to relearn it all in three months because that's how fast your information will be out of date.

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Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

What network functionality were you testing that had to be done on a non-Apple computer running OS X?

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Derp. If you cant figure it out I don't need to lower myself to answer your question.

My windows 7 laptop is 2 years old, and has been greedily gobbling up all the updates I generously give it;
noticing it was getting a bit podgie I weighed it -
40 Gb
Is there a limit to how much lard it can put on ?
my hard drive is only 250.

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Originally Posted by bsnub

Derp. If you cant figure it out I don't need to lower myself to answer your question.

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Butterfly is teaching you well.

My lap top slowed to a crawl the last week or so. Dell Inspiron 1525, 5 years old now. Loaded my XP disc and wallah! Warp speed once again.

Do you think Microsoft will make software that intentionally disables older OS? Maybe Google and others are doing likewise to force new upgrades? Apple does this without even an excuse me.