Thread: Xperia Z1 slaughters S4 octocore...

Well. That should give you something to wank about all night long, eh?

Bloody phone nerd

Whooping the Nokia 1020 camerphone on reviews too...

Pile of shit. And how long before people complain about that lens scratching the fuck out of the screen.

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In short: It's an absolute monster. I fired up the Geekbench 2 benchmark test and was quickly given a score of 3,706, far outstripping the S4's 3,087. That makes the Z1 the most powerful Android device I've ever tested, giving scores rivalling some lower-end laptops

Read and weep, Árry, Read and weep...

Why is the lens hooked on the front? What are you supposed to use as a viewfinder?

^it's just an additional lens. The standard inbuilt lens is still the best available in a camera phone.

There's a 5" HD screen that one uses as a viewfinder; used a digital camera/camera phone before?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

There's a 5" HD screen that one uses as a viewfinder

on the back of the phone?

What??? Have you temporarily lost control of your mind?

I suggest you complain to Sony's camera R&D department (I suspect their decades of experience in these matters might have helped them develop the idea/phone/lens...).

Edit to add: if you're trying to suggest that the linkage device somehow blocks the viewfinder then please see the sentence above.

^ The picture shows the lens clipped onto the front of the phone, covering half the screen.... so does it come with an extra screen on the back or something?

Or is the picture just fucked up?

That's not the front, Gerbil, it's the back - they look similar due to both being black glass, but the Xperia logo is on the back and the back camera lens is in the corner. Beautiful art...

^ fair enough

^sorry if I was a tad sharp, I thought you were being sarcy...

That looks like the lens assembly from the RX100. If it is and it has the same 1 inch sensor then that clip on is going to take great pictures (and it will be expensive!).

What I like most about the Z/Z1 is the purposeful masculine angularity that shouts "manphone" !

Why did Samsung abandon the design signature of the S2 for the gay and gayer S3 and S4?

^It is, well spotted.

After a few crap years with their mobile phones, Sony wanna become top dog - this phone is a great phone.

The camera lens concept is an interesting concept too; not sure how it will work out, gonna have to see (The lens doesn't have to be attached to the camera to use it, can be Bluetooth or wifi, so some interesting opportunities).

For me, the phone may be a little bit big; it's a little big bigger than the xperia Z. But there might be a slightly smaller version coming out soon. If it keeps the camera quality and chipset then I'll get one.

Carphone Warehouse is running a deal which can get you the Sony Xperia Z1 with a free QX10 camera accessory, plus a bundle of other goodies

UK retailer Carphone Warehouse is offering a deal on the Sony Xperia Z1, pre-ordering the phone for £599 will bag you a free QX10 clip-on camera lens, £65 worth of film content and two free months of music streaming.

The QX10 lens itself is a clip-on accessory which has all the capability of digital camera without the need to add bulk to the phone's body. The QX10 lens fits onto your phone and uses a Wi-Fi connection via one-tap NFC to transform your Xperia Z1 into a camera with a 10X optical zoom. It can also be paired with the phone and set up away from it, so you can use it to remotely take photos of yourself, or include yourself in a pic with friends or family. It's rated at 18-megapixels, uses an Exmor RS sensor with a variable aperture and has the same G-Lens technology as the phone.
The release of the Sony Xperia is set for the end of September and by preordering it through Carphone Warehouse you can save nearly £180 on the QX10 lens' retail price. The Xperia X1 is offered through all major UK carriers.

Not that expensive for what you're getting, Looper - the camera plus lens would still be cheaper than an iPhone 5s!
Pre-order Sony Xperia Z1 with free QX10 clip-on camera | Know Your Mobile

I reckon Sony will have a hit with this phone.

More reviews:

As expected, Sony has excelled itself with the display. It's a 5-inch Triluminos panel with a full HD 1920x1080 pixel resolution, but is also layered with Sony's X-Reality Engine. All of this means the picture quality is incredibly sharp and bright with robust colour. As with the Xperia Z and Xperia Z Ultra, consumption of multimedia is unparalleled with an amazingly cinematic experience while watching HD video footage.

The 2.2GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor with 2GB of RAM certainly delivers the goods and I have not spotted a single hiccup, stutter or other aberration while performing various tasks on the handset. It just glides along smoothly with no fuss. Excellent stuff.

Samsung owners might wanna pay attention to the next paragraph!

It's got that feeling of when I go into a car showroom and start messing around with that Mercedes I can't possibly afford - it's new, it's shiny, it's got that premium vibe and it's precision engineered.



Sony Xperia Z1 hands on, specs and first impressions | Know Your Mobile

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I reckon Sony will have a hit with this phone.

Good luck. Meanwhile back at the ranch, the rest of us will be happy with their iPhones/Galaxy's etc etc. Nothing you've demonstrated is sufficient to take people away from what is proven to work.

^strange comment, PAG. The xperia Z is selling very well, better than the HTC One (even though the HTC One is probably a better phone). Apple has been losing share for a long time. Samsung marketing is excellent and deceptive, but most folks accept that they are losing top end market share too; the S4 hasn't sold as well as they expected. HTC, Nokia and Sony make premium phones that Samsung/Apple are losing top end market share to. Samsung has already copied the Xperia Z by bringing out the S4 active (but lower specs...).

Many less iPhones around than a couple of years ago. Lots of S3s and S4s, but HTC Ones, Nokia 920s and Xperia Zs are eating into that share...

This one, however, could be the one for me:



Xperia Z1 mini (TBC)

A set of specs has also leaked alongside, again there’s no telling how authentic they are so do take it all with a pinch of salt. According to the info the Xperia Z1 Mini will pack a 4.3-inch 720p display, a quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor with 2GB of RAM, 8GB of onboard storage, Android 4.3 Jelly Bean and the same 20.7-megpixel Exmor RS camera setup seen in the regular Xperia Z1.

Originally Posted by Looper

That looks like the lens assembly from the RX100. If it is and it has the same 1 inch sensor then that clip on is going to take great pictures (and it will be expensive!).

What I like most about the Z/Z1 is the purposeful masculine angularity that shouts "manphone" !

Why did Samsung abandon the design signature of the S2 for the gay and gayer S3 and S4?

Apple lawyers.

Originally Posted by PAG

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I reckon Sony will have a hit with this phone.

Good luck. Meanwhile back at the ranch, the rest of us will be happy with their iPhones/Galaxy's etc etc. Nothing you've demonstrated is sufficient to take people away from what is proven to work.

Especially when it's so overpriced.

^same price as the S4, but a better phone. Come on Árry, the S series has been top dog for a long time, but HTC, Nokia and Sony have now upped their game; it's good for the consumer. This Xperia Z1 is an excellent phone.

The S3 and S4 are good phones. The S2 was an excellent phone for it's time; the missus has one, and the speed/photo/video side of things is obviously miles down nowadays on the S3/4, HTC One, Xperia Z, etc.

I just don't like the childish nature of Touchwiz or the plastic feel. I would like a slightly smaller phone than my Xperia Z though (with better battery life). Very happy with the speed, camera and video.

All these new topend phones are excellent. I just like the feel of the Xperia Z and HTC One (I also like the look and feel of the iPhone) more than the LG, Samsung and Nokia variants.

OK, here is the deal on those lens assemblies.

Sony reveals QX10 and QX100 camera modules for smartphones: Digital Photography Review

The QX100 is the one to get (yes it is the same as the RX100). It is more than twice the price but is in a different class to the QX10.

Sony Cyber-shot DSC-QX100 First-impressions Review: Digital Photography Review

Good find, Looper. I don't know how well the system will work. The phone has an excellent lens as standard and excellent editing and functions; more than enough for me.

Will a 'proper' photographer wanna use these attachable lenses? You get the zoom and high quality (aperture, etc), so maybe...

On those sites, people were interested in the lens as an automatic device linked to a computer, etc. The technology might prove very interesting, moving forward as remote photography, etc.

Also saying, on many sites, that this phone is massively preordered. Frankly, what would you rather have, this or an iPhone 5s or s4? I'd like this Sony because it's stronger in every department.

Using a smartphone, I've found that I use the camera and video lots, great when I'm on holiday or just travelling around. The main things I want from a smartphone are wifi/3g/4g speed, nice screen, and a decent camera and video (for taking and watching HD video; I wish I could upload some of the videos I took in Kathmandu and Sri Lanka onto TD). The Z1 ticks those boxes well. It also has strong battery life (which the xperia z doesn't) and a dedicated camera button (which most smartphones don't). It is at the top end sizewise though...