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I think those programs allow you to know how company property is being used during working hours.
As I said, I would let employees know the computers were being monitored during the time they're supposed to be used for work.
You're acting like personal property is being accessed- if you treat a business computer like your home computer, you're a fool in any case- I assume any computer that I don't have control over logs my info.
Personally, I would be more worried if they did a good job or not.If they were playing on the net, but also did a great job...then I wouldn't care what they did net wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
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If they're 'playing on the net' while they're supposed to be working, then they're probably not doing a great job during that wasted time that you're paying them for...
If you're boss and you're ok with workers wasting an hour or two per day doing nothing, you're throwing away money.
^Try seeking out the ones who are not receiving the work related bonuses:)
^You missed the point.If I have somebody that does a fantastic job, but does fuck around on the net a bit, I would rather keep them happy by letting them do it.Too hard to find good staff.Getting all righteous on their asses....does fcuk all IMO
I've been in business for over a decade, and I have some employees that have been with me the whole time, and others that have been around more than five years- I understand how to treat my workers- I also know what to expect from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Chuchok
Screwing around a bit is fine, and a boss can't be a slave-driver, but wasting an hour or more per day on personal stuff during working hours when you get a lunch break and other personal breaks to take care of it isn't.
So what you are saying is you don't trust them.Quote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
I would just send them all an email *telling* them you have installed monitoring software that will log all access to the internet.
Sort of like one of those fake security cameras.
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No, (for the most part- there are a couple of exceptions) I don't trust them completely- people are people, and they'll take advantage if possible, and the Internet is a very attractive distraction- obviously it's the same at the company you work for.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaSo what you are saying is you don't trust them.Quote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
I would just send them all an email *telling* them you have installed monitoring software that will log all access to the internet.
Sort of like one of those fake security cameras.
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My computers are all networked, and my employees know that I can access their terminals- I don't play games with them- of course, I don't control their smart-phones...:mid:
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Originally Posted by FailSafe
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Stress at work
Almost 13.5 million working days were lost due
to work related stress during 2007/8. While some
employers have accepted that stress is a major
problem in their workplace, few have any idea how
to tackle it effectively.
Causes and effects of stressQuote:
The Health and Safety Executive (HSE) accepts there
is no such thing as a pressure-free job and UNISON
agrees. Challenge and stimulation are necessary,
but stress is not. If a job is to be done well, stress
should be removed
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Stress may be caused or made worse by a number
of factors including:
n long hours
n shiftwork
n unrealistic targets or deadlines
n too much or too little work
n lack of control and conflicting demands
(especially among the lower grades)
n poor management
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Work-related stress
facts and figures
According to the 2007/8 HSE labour force survey:
n around 420,000 individuals in Britain believed
they were experiencing work-related stress in
2007/8 at a level that was making them ill
n an estimated 237,000 people first became aware
of work-related stress, depression or anxiety in
the previous 12 months
n depression or anxiety account for an estimated
10.5 million reported lost working days per year
in Britain
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The effects of stress can lead to physical
symptoms of ill health as well as longerterm psychological damage. Many of the
early outward signs will be noticeable
to managers and work colleagues and
should alert those within the organisation
who have control of and responsibility for
staff. They include:
n changes in behaviour
n unusual tearfulness, irritability or
aggression
n indecisiveness
n increased sickness absence
n poor timekeeping
n reduced performance, for example, an
inability to concentrate
n overworking or failure to delegate
n erosion of self-confidence
n relationship problems, for example,
becoming withdrawn or argumentative
with colleagues
Running a key down the side of the bosses car, shoving a potato in his exhaust and pouring fish oil into the cnuts air vents, then urinating over the driver side door handle
http://www.unison.org.uk/acrobat/18596.pdf
I don't give a fuck what they do, as long as the job is done...and done well.Quote:
Originally Posted by FailSafeI've been in business for over a decade, and I have some employees that have been with me the whole time, and others that have been around more than five years- I understand how to treat my workers- I also know what to expect from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Chuchok
Screwing around a bit is fine, and a boss can't be a slave-driver, but wasting an hour or more per day on personal stuff during working hours when you get a lunch break and other personal breaks to take care of it isn't.
Always fun to receive Management advice from people earning Baht 300 and hour for "teaching" English or from retired wage slaves scratching by in Thailand on a pension.
I have been running my Company for over 15 years, employ 6 Salesmen whose time with the Company varies from 15 years - yes he was the first I employed - to my most recent employee who joined nearly 6 years ago. Only one Salesman has left over all that time.
I first installed this Software - on Company purchased Computers - about 7 years ago because I did not want my Salesmen to waste hours every day coming into the Office before visiting their first Customer of the day and then returning to the Office at 4.00 pm to "sign out".
All the Salesmen know this Software is on these Computers - I repeat, Company owned Computers.
I am not controlling their lives - obviously they could easily goof off and use an Internet Cafe for their own 'Net business and I would know nothing about it - but if they use my equipment I demand the right to know what they are doing with it.
And just to respond to some earlier clown; any of them who uses my Computer to access Porn or Bestiality sites - whatever - would be fired the next time he came back to the office and reported to the relevant authorities.
Patrick
"People" might. But not employees that you manage and reward properly. If people are satisfied in their work, they tend not to do things that might risk them losing it.Quote:
I don't trust them completely- people are people, and they'll take advantage if possible
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'Too little supervision' is also an option- I guess a boss can't win...
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Exactly, Patrick- it's a different story when you sign the checks.
Funny you should say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick
Anyone remember this?
Funnily enough, his firt edict on taking charge was making surfing porn a sackable offence. The silly fucker's second one was outsourcing his IT department, costing all the IT staff all the banking benefits, etc.Quote:
The chief executive of the Bank of Ireland, Michael Soden, has quit his job after porn was found on his company PC. Shares in the bank have been buoyed up by the news, which has sparked speculation of a takeover.
The material was discovered during routine maintenance of his machine, and the results of the internal investigation were leaked to a local newspaper.
There is no suggestion that any of the material was illegal, but it was forbidden under bank policy. "I now accept that accessing this material was inappropriate and would cause embarrassment to Bank of Ireland," Soden said in a statement.
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If somebody is always looking over my shoulder, then I would not take the job.If I was the top sales earner in a company, and some pin head said that I was "using the companies computers too much for my own shite, then I would either leave or buy my own computer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick
Who said anything about teaching English??
Then why does your company have to have a system in place that limits Internet usage? Aren't employees managed and rewarded properly?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
You could triple salaries and people would still goof off and surf the net if they could get away with it- it's an addiction that's too easy to satisfy if you're in front of a computer.
Hey Patrick
get down off your high horse,Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick
and let us know some of the funny shit you've found while snooping around on your emloyees laptops
No it's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
If you select the right people then it's not a problem.If they are no good then either kick them in the arse or get rid of them.BTW, it's "cheques" :)
I once worked for an organisation that checked the time you came in, checked how long you had for lunch, an checked what time you went home. As long as you were sitting at your desk for the required number of hours, you could sit there all day playing Tetris and no-one would ever say anything.
Why didn't managers check quality or volume of work? 'Cos it was hard.
Why did managers check sign-in and sign-out times? 'Cos it was easy.
Lazy bastard managers just wanted an easy life.
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Finding the 'right' people can be very difficult, and it's not easy to weed out the slackers during the interviewing process- you are making a very difficult thing sound easy.
Depends on how well you do the interview and how well you reference check....it is tough though.Quote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
Many years ago, I was selling for a freight company in NZ.The boss said to me.."I don't want to see any sales reports or know where you are etc" When I asked why, he said
" the figures never lie......"
Security. The web is riddled with threats these days, didn't you know? Especially porn sites.Quote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
Right- it has nothing to do with employees wasting working time on the Internet- and why would your 'properly managed and rewarded' employees use company computers to visit porn sites...?:roll eyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaSecurity. The web is riddled with threats these days, didn't you know? Especially porn sites.Quote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
Your company has the same problem all companies have when employees have Internet access.
No - access is not monitored you moron. If someone wants to waste time surfing the net, they'll have their boss to answer to if they're neglecting their work.