Thread: 'Cloud' software

Originally Posted by Mid

with Harry on this one and in reality it would appear that all 9999 really wants to do is transfer data from A to B and back twice a day .

Yep exactly.

Originally Posted by Mid

this can be achieved much more securely than dumping it in an on-line mail box for pick up by a third party .

Like I said, security is not a big issue. But what is the secure option out of interest?

Originally Posted by FailSafe

it doesn't take too much research to learn how to properly protect your data.

Yep and it's pretty obvious without research that storing data on a random 3rd party server in not very secure. Somehow though this thread is focusing on security which is pretty much a non-issue in relation to the OP.

OK IF security is not an issue then P2P

Originally Posted by 9999

So between Google drive and Dropbox, what are the pros and cons?

I basically need to upload stuff in the morning so the office can download it. Then the office uploads after the work day so I can download, check and file the files. There'd be about 3-5 gig uploaded / downloaded twice a day.

Tell office to leave computer on and access it remotely via Team Viewer, both of you can work on the same file with no need for the upload/download shite.

and now that security has been taken off the table ,

what sort of line speeds do you have ?

up 'n down on 3 to 5 gig twice daily is going to test most connections .

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Fair enough- it's just an issue that always comes up when cloud storage is mentioned- didn't mean to divert your OP.

By all means divert away. That is the beauty of forums and conversations. Just wanted to make it clear that security is not a concern for my needs if anyone has something to recommend.

Originally Posted by Mid

OK IF security is not an issue then P2P

P2P is superior to 'cloud' (for my needs)? Any suggestions of P2P clients?

with those speeds P2P aka torrents

uTorrent or bitTorrent

OK, I got no idea how to make torrents, and without a swarm, wouldn't it just be the same as downloading from a PC or cloud through cloud / sync software?

yes and no

you will upload to your own client and down load from directly , no third party .

either client will produce the torrent and allow you to keep the tracker reasonably private aka you e-mail the tracker to the other end and away it all goes , sort of .

the info is transferred directly from you to your client and the tracker doesn't need to be broadcast publicly .

This is Microsoft's one. I have used it once and it's very similar to the Sharepoint which is MS's clunky all-in-one email/outlook/whatever thing that crashes every now and again for the company that I work for.

https://skydrive.live.com/

You might want to consider hosting the files on the office server, and using something like FlashGet or Free Download Manager.

These can open multiple streams to max out your available connection (subject to wherever is the bottleneck, obviously).

Having said that, I've only ever used them for downloads, so you'd probably require someone at the other end to initiate a pull their end using the same.

HTTP or FTP would do.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You might want to consider hosting the files on the office server, and using something like FlashGet or Free Download Manager.

These can open multiple streams to max out your available connection (subject to wherever is the bottleneck, obviously).

The files are hosted at the office. The 'server' is a 1TB shared hard drive residing on one of the PC's. I don't have it set up with a domain, FTP etc (though intend to do so in the near future).

Anyways, the bottleneck here is not downloading from the cloud or the office, it's uploading to the office from my laptop relying on 2G/3G or whatever wireless is available (I'm driving from CNX to Nong Kai, going to Laos and back and doing a 5-6 day road trip through North Thailand and need to keep things ticking over back home - and will no doubt need a solution for when I'm away in the future).

Thanks all for the input, much appreciated.

Setting up an FTP server is a piece of piss, there's one built into Windows that you install from "Windows Components".

But if you want to upload them on demand the same way, you'd have to schedule it with your staff, so you're pretty well limited by upload speed - which for most ISPs is pretty shit.

Glad to see not everyone is falling for this fucking "Cloud" nonsense.

50% of businesses feel the cloud is too risky

Posted on 03 May 2012.


Despite the apparent enthusiasm around cloud computing, a Wisegate survey revealed that over 50% believe the cloud is too risky for prime time, and only suitable for commodity applications like CRM or e-mail.


When asked if they were moving protected class data into the public cloud, 53% of senior IT practitioners from leading companies in financial services, healthcare, consumer products, automotive, and government agencies said that the “cloud was too risky and they have no near term plans” to adopt cloud for such applications.

Many reported that government or industry regulations (such as HIPAA or Sarbanes-Oxley) prevent them from adopting cloud-based applications.

Only 16% responded that they were moving ahead with plans but emphasized they would need a comprehensive contract and an SLA agreement in place. The other 25% said their company was apprehensive about cloud computing but have some near term plans in place.

The overall sentiment from additional survey questions overwhelmingly revealed that security remains the top concern for cloud adoption. However, for those organizations that are putting applications like email, in the cloud, there are a couple of keys for doing so including:

1. Ensuring that SLA agreements cover connectivity, response time, uptime and issue resolution.
2. Knowing what the maximum “send” and “receive” limits are for each mailbox and for the entire organization.
3. Understanding the disaster recovery (DR) and digital archiving processes offered by the chosen service provider.