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    ^thats being a little unkind, he hasn't been here long enough to realse that thailand is the international hub of 'saying is the same as doing'

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    When the flooding started I went to The Philippines for a month. Just not interested in any of this Thai flooding stupidity. It would be nice to see all the factories just give Thailand the finger and leave Thailand.... Addios Khun Thai

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushwacker View Post
    The small fee was 5000 baht ($17) which was paid out if you had signed up during the flood time when you were living under water, could prove damage and used gas to go to the government to collect the money (3 trips for us).

    500b is the cost of a cheap bottle of wine or a case of beer ... before the cost of the gas!

    5,000 baht = $161.00 USD

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    Quote Originally Posted by watdog View Post
    thai news is warning about the rainy season already.

    people are scared and very tentative. in spite of the buddhist bullshit.
    "Buddhist bullshit"

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    This vid. explains the probable reason for the Thai flood. I knew of the loop current being broken when the Italian scientist brought it to public attention sometime in the latter part of 2010. If you Google - Gulf loop current stalled- or words to that effect, you will find nothing about it after 2010. It is being covered up by TPTB. Below the vid I posted a link to Lord Stirlings blogg site. There you can read his credentials and scroll down to his article on the stalled or broken Gulf Loop Current with links to govt. sites that give real time satalite images of the Gulf Stream Current that prove it is still broken.

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    A good article with charts and stuff.
    BP Oil Spill Stalls Gulf Loop Current: Global Consequences if Current Fails to Reorganize

    The planet is basically phuked because of the oil in the Gulf of Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorenzo
    When the flooding started I went to The Philippines for a month. Just not interested in any of this Thai flooding stupidity. It would be nice to see all the factories just give Thailand the finger and leave Thailand.... Addios Khun Thai
    Why would you wish that?

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    Thousands of Thais still jobless from 2011 floods
    Feb 18, 2012

    Bangkok - More than 45,000 people have lost their jobs as a result of floods late last year in central Thailand, a report said Saturday.

    The Labour Department said 284 factories that employ more than 160,000 workers remain closed, the Nation newspaper reported.

    Severance payouts increased this week to include 45,873 workers. The payouts have reached 2.25 billion baht (73 million dollars), it said.

    The department said many of the factories would be operating again by late March.

    The floods inundated the central plains and parts of Bangkok in October and November, claiming 636 lives.

    Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra wrapped up a five-day tour of the flooded areas Friday.

    She said total damage was estimated at 1.42 trillion baht (45 billion dollars).

    She said her government has a new master plan to cope with future floods.

    It was sharply criticized last year for lack of coordination between the dozen state agencies responsible for water resources.

    news.monstersandcritics.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    One of my company's clients built a brand spankin' new foundry, state-of-the-art technology (if you believe them, which I actually do), in Ayuthaya and had it online for about a month before it was submerged. It is still not operational. They are putting on a brave face publicly, but I am pretty sure they are none too pleased.
    Update: The company in question is moving all salvageable equipment to Chonburi. Bye-bye Ayuthaya (decision already disclosed in press release). I bet there is a lot of this going on.

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    Ayudthaya does look to be really fuked, what with the future plans to use/sacrifice it as some kind of flooding zone...

    As I said before, but some fukwits argued: the flood will continue to impact everyone (including us) for some time; increased crime rates and general social problems are gonna make living here less pleasant even if you are not directly and/or financially affected.
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    ^Re-adapt the land to agriculture? One thing there will not be enough of in future is food. I don't think we will be able to say that about cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo
    Re-adapt the land to agriculture?
    What can you grow under a metre of water?

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    ^ water-hyacinth. Can we eat it? There's a business in that stuff...

    ^^ The car situation in Thailand is insane, and everywhere I look they are building new dealerships...

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
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    1/3 operational is pulling out all the stops?

    thai politicians, like all others, will promise anything.

    they have huge problems here and do little but stuff their pockets.
    I meant that the company is pulling out all the stops. Not sure if they aren't throwing good money after bad, but the Japanese are nothing if not cocksure.
    You have to know that the Japanese have a very very distant relationship with the word 'no' - just as Thai's have with the truth!

    The japanese have at least two states - tatimai (tell people what they want to hear) and hon (what you really think). Of course the Japs told the thais that they wouldn't pull out and would get stuck into re-opening their factories. Did they mean it? The numbers appear to speak for themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo
    Originally Posted by robuzo View Post One of my company's clients built a brand spankin' new foundry, state-of-the-art technology (if you believe them, which I actually do), in Ayuthaya and had it online for about a month before it was submerged. It is still not operational. They are putting on a brave face publicly, but I am pretty sure they are none too pleased. Update: The company in question is moving all salvageable equipment to Chonburi. Bye-bye Ayuthaya (decision already disclosed in press release). I bet there is a lot of this going on.

    Arrh yes, I had a pretty strong feeling my previous post would become the new reality!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo
    Re-adapt the land to agriculture?
    What can you grow under a metre of water?
    It could be the new Tonle Sap of Thailand. Anyway, only underwater part of the year. Just have to control the depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    ^Re-adapt the land to agriculture? One thing there will not be enough of in future is food. I don't think we will be able to say that about cars.
    Good point. Who benefits from a car assembly plant? After the plant is built and (Burmese) contruction slaves sent packing, how many Thai people really benefit? Let's say there are 2,000 Thai workers at the Honda plant (I admit I have no idea the actual number maybe it's 12,000). The parts are assembled in Japan, sent here, and the components are put together in Thailand to make a car. The landowner benefits, the Thai partner benefits (must have a hi-so Thai partner to do biz in LOS), the Thai(Chinese) Honda Dealers benefit - and of course Honda Inc. benefits by selling their cars in Thailand at around 50% more than the market value in other foreign markets where they AREN'T made. Compared to rice farming, Thailand's number one rice exporter to the world, how do Thai people benefit (in general - those not working directly for the factory)? There must be millions of Thai who benefit from growing rice. I agree saving the rice fields from flood is a challenge - but it shouldn't be dismissed to think that a big-name manufacturer should receive more help when the overall benefit to the country of their production is far, far less important
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post

    The car situation in Thailand is insane, and everywhere I look they are building new dealerships...
    Sometimes just down the road from each other. It's the 7-11 business model, except I always go to 7-11 - rarely to a car dealership. Clearly no territory is agreed by the car makers. Toyota seems to be the worst offender. Stoopid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Ayudthaya does look to be really fuked, what with the future plans to use/sacrifice it as some kind of flooding zone...

    As I said before, but some fukwits argued: the flood will continue to impact everyone (including us) for some time; increased crime rates and general social problems are gonna make living here less pleasant even if you are not directly and/or financially affected.
    Future flooding zone?

    Less we forget, the broader Ayutthaya region is a natural flood plain. It is what it is.
    Compounding such water issues by covering the rich landscape with wall-to-wall industrial parks, car parks, shopping malls, and super motorways is quite insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    She said her government has a new master plan to cope with future floods.
    yeah, the new master plan is to bring back Thaksin, he will stop water like Moise did with the red sea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Ayudthaya does look to be really fuked, what with the future plans to use/sacrifice it as some kind of flooding zone...

    As I said before, but some fukwits argued: the flood will continue to impact everyone (including us) for some time; increased crime rates and general social problems are gonna make living here less pleasant even if you are not directly and/or financially affected.
    Future flooding zone?

    Less we forget, the broader Ayutthaya region is a natural flood plain. It is what it is.
    Compounding such water issues by covering the rich landscape with wall-to-wall industrial parks, car parks, shopping malls, and super motorways is quite insane.

    ..........unless one builds the appropriate dyke system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo
    Re-adapt the land to agriculture?
    What can you grow under a metre of water?
    In defence, a metre of standing water was seasonal 75-100 years ago, as any water build-up to be had drained naturally or was coordinated by a complex klong system [which, of course, has been limited with mindless industrialization].

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Ayudthaya does look to be really fuked, what with the future plans to use/sacrifice it as some kind of flooding zone...

    As I said before, but some fukwits argued: the flood will continue to impact everyone (including us) for some time; increased crime rates and general social problems are gonna make living here less pleasant even if you are not directly and/or financially affected.
    Future flooding zone?

    Less we forget, the broader Ayutthaya region is a natural flood plain. It is what it is.
    Compounding such water issues by covering the rich landscape with wall-to-wall industrial parks, car parks, shopping malls, and super motorways is quite insane.

    ..........unless one builds the appropriate dyke system.
    Better yet, a developed enclosed pumping aqueduct network - directing water to less fortunate regions for the upcoming dry seasons that naturally follow the annual flooding.

    As long as they're spending billions - why not use it logically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    In defence, a metre of standing water was seasonal 75-100 years ago, as any water build-up to be had drained naturally or was coordinated by a complex klong system [which, of course, has been limited with mindless industrialization].
    Which actually raises the question about the Big Bag and other flood defences. Those aside, and while not underestimating the damage, it seems the water pretty much "drained naturally" for the most part as predicted didn't it? I mean despite the blockages - the water stayed a bit longer sure - but it was gone pretty much exactly as the government/water types predicted. Mr Blabber Mouth on TC Ch3 kind of went back to his usual thing in the studio within a week or two and his cute little girl sidekick went back to her "Ka, Ka, Ka" routine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    ^ water-hyacinth. Can we eat it? There's a business in that stuff...
    I know of a few places that use beds of water hyacinth as the last stage of clueing their waste water of heavy metals. These plants have a serious affinity to the stuff, to the point that the ash they are left with when they burn the stuff is quite toxic.

    So I would say, even if they are edible. In a country like thailand; its unlikely you would fine water clean enough for to want to grow them for food.

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    I came back to this thread by looking through the videos posted by Zampan0.



    The guy actually manages to sound halfway serious through the first video. In the middle of the second he finally shows himself as the loopy he is. Most funny stuff.

    About the water hyacinths. This is what you can make of them. They have shown up in the shops for a while, I believe as handicraft from Africa.

    Water hyacinth bag products, buy Water hyacinth bag products from alibaba.com

    Maybe they could be used as a source of biogas if there is enough of the stuff and it grows quite rapidly.

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