Buadhai's home in progress...

[buadhai]

[ceburat]

I like the island idea.

I really do to, but if you check the dimensions the room is just not big enough. The passage between the island and the fridge is only about 60 cm.

I'll play with it.

Thanks for the feedback.

If ok with you, what is the footage, length and width of the kitchen?

Also the house.

[ceburat]

I see you have windows behind the stove/range. Have you considered a Range Hood with exhaust so as to remove heat and smell to the outside of the house?

[hillbilly]

I like the way buadhai has done his house design using a computer program. This is what I should have done.

Most of my house design was built around the program called Thai autotcad. Basically,drawings in the dirt!

Great job, buadhai!

[buadhai]

I see you have windows behind the stove/range. Have you considered a Range Hood with exhaust so as to remove heat and smell to the outside of the house?

I wonder if I'll need one with the two windows providing plenty of cross ventilation?

I put one in my house on Saipan which had a gas cook top, but the motor burned out the first month and I never used it nor felt that I needed it.

The way the window is in this house the vent would have to be very high. Would it even be effective?

I'm open to ideas.

[klongmaster]

Most of my house design was built around the program called Thai autotcad. Basically,drawings in the dirt!

you're a funny guy HB..bloody hot tea burned my throat...

BH: I think you'd get annoyed with having to walk around that island all the time and would curse every time you hit yourself on its edges...you seem to have plenty of bench space...i'd ditch it if it was my place...

[buadhai]

I like the way buadhai has done his house design using a computer program. This is what I should have done.

Most of my house design was built around the program called Thai autotcad. Basically,drawings in the dirt!

I'm not so sure....

Four hours:



Five minutes:

[lom]

Move the zink 30cm to the left and it will only occupy space inside the
double door cupboard.
This will give you a single cupboard to the right with full height inside.

[hillbilly]

Excellent idea! Plus it sorta squares the sinks with the kitchen windows.

[buadhai]

Move the zink 30cm to the left and it will only occupy space inside the
double door cupboard.
This will give you a single cupboard to the right with full height inside

Excellent idea. Thanks and keep 'em coming.

[hillbilly]

Actually, it was lom's idea. i have a hard time looking at computer generated drawings. I am more of a in the dirt kind of guy!

[buadhai]

Actually, it was lom's idea

Something screwy with the quote function here. I highlighted what lom wrote and hit the [q-quote] button and it attributed his words to you!

Anyway, thanks for the idea Lom. I just went out to the front yard and used a slipper and stick to move the sink in the new drawing 30 cm to the left.

[buadhai]

Well, Ms. B rejected the open shelf idea, so the island had to go. This one has her approval:

[NickA]

I think the fridge looks a little bit too near the cooking area....I mean if someone is stood there cooking and someone else is going in and out of the fridge you could be getting in each others way etc...

[buadhai]

I think the fridge looks a little bit too near the cooking area....I mean if someone is stood there cooking and someone else is going in and out of the fridge you could be getting in each others way etc...

Where should it go? Don't be afraid now. I'm already on design number 8!

[NickA]

^Well, I was thinking half way along, so that in effect, you could cook from both sides (I mean you have somewhere to prepare and place things at either side of the hobs) or even so two people could cook at once.

Then again, it could just be the angle of the picture that makes the space look small.

[ceburat]

Another kitchen idea....

I am not an expert, however, I do have some ideas from my own building experiences in other places. Maybe they will help. Maybe not. If not just put into file 13.

Back door, entrance way. You should have easy access in and out in order to carry out trash and to bring into the house food items you purchase when shopping. Here in this plan it looks as tho you, the island, and the pantry are going to do war every day. You should also have ease of passage from any area of the kitchen to the door going to other parts of the house.

I like islands, but not this one, cancel it.

Like someone has already said or commented on. Your sink. Center it with the two windows. Also leave enough space so that when washing dishes you are not cramped up to the counter on the left. Also leave room for doing dishes. Example. Dirty dishes go on counter left side of sink. On right side of sink leave room for dish rack or place to put cleaned dishes until dried and put away. Also most women in southern USA(don't know about here) want there kitchen windows by the sink, with a view of the back yard. Not sure why, but, I think the fresh air when working in the kitchen is refreshing and it is easier to keep up with the rug-rats playing outside.

I would make the room one meter or yard wider, at least. Then on the right side of kitchen you could place the fridge somewhere closer to back door and sink. The rest of the right side of the kitchen would be pantry(storage under with nice counter top of top for display of mixer, fancy dishes, etc.) Also if you had cabinets up on the wall over the counter, you would have much more storage space. So, you go from another section of the house, into the kitchen, and on your right you have a counter with cabinets over, running the full length of the wall, to the point where the fridge goes. Then more space for the back door when open.

Cabinets/counter on the left with cooking range are fine. IMO the dirty working area should be keep between the cooking range and the sink. Counter space on other side of (left side when cooking) cooking range is more nice storage area and a good place for the rice cooker or indoor grill if not part of the main range. Also good place for microwave, slow cooker, etc.

Where the fridge now sits in the above plan. Put a small desk for Mrs B. Above it shelves for cook books, etc. w. telephone.

Back to the vent over cooking range. IMO. In Asia it is hot and humid. Heat builds up fast. Also you might have to close the windows over the range if wind is high or raining in, etc. A good cooking range with proper hood over, lights etc. including oven and rotisarie(sp) are a must if you like to cook(work) in some degree of comfort. And for sure you don't want all of the heat going to the rest of the house.

You might be able to put a single window on each side of the cooking range and the hood over. Just a passing thought.

Keep the middle of the floor open and don't listen to nonesense about working or eating on the floor. Thats fine for Asian's who don't have a proper kitchen to work in such as some of my friends and at my mother-in-laws house. In my house with a proper kitchen-well simply said about cooking, eating on the floor-just forget it. Why we have that nice (expensive) dinning room set for (show??) Also I can talk, (yell) louder then they and I am much bigger.

[buadhai]

The island is gone. The cook top has been moved to make room on both sides and eliminate interference with the fridge. The sink is centered under the window.

The size of the room is pretty much fixed as this is a moo baan house.

Thanks for all the input.

[ceburat]

Also, there is no such thing as too many places to plug in electric appliances. Install plenty of plug ins over the counter. If you have cabinets on top, install lights under them for counter top lighting below. You need good lights in the kitchen.

Important. Counter top show be the proper, ease of working highth of the little lady doing the cooking. Asian ladies for the most part, cooking in western style kitchens need a box to stand on. Not really funny when you have plenty of cooking to do.

[buadhai]

the little lady doing the cooking

The little lady doesn't cook. It will be big old me!

In addition to the outlets shown in the drawing above, there is one under the cook top, one to the right of the sink and two on the wall with the cabinet.

[ceburat]

Well, Ms. B rejected the open shelf idea, so the island had to go. This one has her approval:

At the point where you enter the kitchen from the other part of the house. Put a wall to hide the end of the counter. Then put the fridge at the other end of the counter, however, leave pleanty of space for the back door. I say the above to help show what I suggested in the previous post.

[NickA]

Sorry to be picky, but if you look at the counter top area next to the fridge it will be quite difficult to access and you couldn't have cupboard underneath

[ceburat]

The size of the room is pretty much fixed as this is a moo baan house.

More maybe's. You could move the fridge to the left side of the backdoor and move the double sinks to being on an angle in the corner with a window on each wall. You would then have the window centered over the sinks with your fridge on your right when doing dishes and the range on your left.

[buadhai]

I think we're stuck with the windows where they are. So, not enough room for the fridge next to the porch door.

This is based on previous suggestions:

[ceburat]

I think we're stuck with the windows where they are. So, not enough room for the fridge next to the porch door.

This is based on previous suggestions:

Looking good. Now you have more storage space at the end of the kitchen (left of the range) then was provided by the island in middle of the channel.