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    trying to post picture, not sure if it's going to work.
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    Another idea would be galvanized truss, not sure availability in LOS but I did see it used on one build.


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    I think I got it don't know what I did though LOL

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    ^ Prefabricated galvanised "supports are probably the best option? But - to make feasible you would probably need to be building 50 houses the same to make it financially viable, then hope people are willing to pay extra for adding ~10 years to the roof life. To justify the expense on a single build would be difficult at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennis4558 View Post
    Another idea would be galvanized truss, not sure availability in LOS but I did see it used on one build.

    I used the Pre Fab'd Galvanized truss. Was not that much more then the Thai weld as you go option but no rust and no painting. It was made in Australia IIRC.

    Let me see if I have some pics I can post up

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    Galvanized truss pics









    Most came pre fab'd.

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    ^Very nice, couple of questions, is it fabricated to order or does it come in standard sizes? What about cost of shipping and import duties & what is the lead time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Galvanized truss pics









    Most came pre fab'd.
    That actually looks very impressive. I guess this route is a lot more expensive in Thailand as the trusses are pre-fabricated then dipped, and not simply painted and assembled on site...?

    Thanks for posting JPPR2. it's an option to consider and I will definitely mention it with the builder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennis4558 View Post
    Another idea would be galvanized truss, not sure availability in LOS but I did see it used on one build.

    yeah Dennis! ...it worked and...it looks good!

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    Wait JPPR2...are you saying you built a house in Thailand using galvanised pre-assembled trusses from Australia, and it was not much more than locally welded ones!?

    Maybe i mis read, otherwise surely this would be the norm, not the exception!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    Very nice, couple of questions, is it fabricated to order or does it come in standard sizes? What about cost of shipping and import duties & what is the lead time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    Wait JPPR2...are you saying you built a house in Thailand using galvanised pre-assembled trusses from Australia, and it was not much more than locally welded ones!?

    Maybe i mis read, otherwise surely this would be the norm, not the exception!!
    Answering both....Once the architects renderings were done and approved and 1st installment of 25% put down, he ordered. Most of what came was pre fab'd and I would believe standard and then the rest was installed by the general contractor onsite. He has been using this here in Thailand for quite a few years and highly recommended it. The cost was about 20% more according to my wife memory but well worth it in quality and reliability. I am not sure the lead time but he did order once they started building and all arrived by truck from BKK a month or so before they were ready to start roof install. Tiles came next day.

    I would like to say, Some on here remember my detailed build thread. I had an OUTSTANDING general contractor. Very professional, extremely organized with a staff of competent builders that are full time employees of his business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    I would like to say, Some on here remember my detailed build thread. I had an OUTSTANDING general contractor. Very professional, extremely organized with a staff of competent builders that are full time employees of his business.
    Interesting - thanks, I would add to your general contractors attributes that he was very well connected, my biggest concern with ordering from Australia would be customs clearance and payment of duties, he obviously knew the right palms to grease, potentially it could have turned into a nightmare, least it would have done with my luck with importation! For sure you have a superior "product' than what is freely available on the local market, well done!
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    Interesting - thanks, I would add to your general contractors attributes that he was very well connected, my biggest concern with ordering from Australia would be customs clearance and payment of duties, he obviously knew the right palms to grease, potentially it could have turned into a nightmare, least it would have done with my luck with importation! For sure you have a superior "product' than what is freely available on the local market, well done!
    Cheers
    I agree!

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    OK.. on with the story as K.Pot has got his act into gear and now I have some more photos....

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    First, a few I forgot to post before... the plank delivery...







    lots of lovely planks..

    .. ok they are placed already, you saw the previous photos...

    let me try to fill in the sequence now with the next ones.

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    Mixing the concrete for the first floor columns

    yes... we are back to the 2-girl-power concrete mixer...




    That is...until this guy jumped in and tried to take over...


    As you might imagine, she was having none of it n it became 'Hoe's at dawn'
    I know, I know...no need for a smutty double-entendre but I thought I would throw it in anyway...

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    Pouring the first floor columns


    harmony restored as they start the 'pour'...


    Look at that team-work...


    I'm sure it never entered her head to 'knock' the ladder over the side. Its her husband too, apparently...

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    Second installment tomorrow but... its been a long day, started at 7am, finishing at 7pm... its time for home!!

    See y'all...

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    Galvanised Truss, looks good and I should imagine an awful lot lighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dead Metal View Post
    Galvanised Truss, looks good and I should imagine an awful lot lighter.
    I would say they would be heavier? due to the galvanised coating adding extra weight, be minimal - but still adds weight to the mild steel trusses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    I would add to your general contractors attributes that he was very well connected, my biggest concern with ordering from Australia
    Actually he ordered from a distributor in BKK. There is no real connection or greasing the "proverbial" skids to get by customs. This material is actually readily available and becoming quite prevalent in many homes being built these days. It is lighter and stronger and rust resistant and no open ends for creatures to crawl up into to make a home. Originally I was going to go with the basic Thai build on site process but when we talked about building materials etc the roof truss material was discussed and I immediately changed.

    Another example, our "2nd" floor (as I will call it) was all pre fab'd slab strips all ready to go. They brought a small crane on site and lifted into place. The general contractor stated that pouring a slab takes more work and time and has inherent issues with consistency and voids. In BKK I have watched numerous neighborhoods go up with pre fab'd walls and floors trucked in and put together. Of course this works efficiently when you only offer 2 or 3 floor plans and they can be mass built. I will say our house is a hybrid. Much had to be custom built and much came in pre fab'd.

    Thailand as a whole is growing in their home building skills. I know many have had some real nightmare builds even with a few big name builders. It all boils down to doing your homework, spending the time to go look at the GC's previous builds, talk to people who used him to see if any issues and go to some current site builds to see the help.

    As I looked through the hundreds of pics I have lookinf for the truss and slab pics I thought I would post a few from start some 6 years ago to the now for fun. Incentive for Thai Dhupp and others, that with patience can build a nice home to relax in until they burn you at the local Wat...HAHAHA



    How my wifes house looked prior. We lived in BKK and FIL lived in the house, he kept up the Teakwood very well. The soi was so narrow but later we bought up land surrounding the house and in front and I widened the soi.



    Father in law and I walking with General Contractor discussing house location on the land. We bought 3 parcels surrounding the original land. 2 were vacant lots and 1 had a small home on it.



    Original house tear down. My FIL with his friend segregated all the Teakwood from the house into good, bad and garbage.

    All land being cleared and old cement removed



    Soi being widened.





    As mentioned, Pre Fab'd slabs strips being installed



    Fast forward and here is a pic I took with my Mavic pro drone about 8 months ago after we had finished most of the landscaping. My FIL, wife and I did all the work.



    Aerial pic from drone. We added an outdoor kitchen and a car park shop area.

    If I am disrupting your thread Thai Dupp please let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    Interesting - thanks, I would add to your general contractors attributes that he was very well connected, my biggest concern with ordering from Australia would be customs clearance and payment of duties, he obviously knew the right palms to grease, potentially it could have turned into a nightmare, least it would have done with my luck with importation! For sure you have a superior "product' than what is freely available on the local market, well done!
    Cheers
    I am guessing that is the Bluescope truss used, it is an Australian based company but manufactured here by the Thai subsidiary, same people who make Bluescope colourbond roofing. So not imported, no customs to worry about. I have read a few building stories where people have used a roof and truss package from Bluescope, a bit more expensive in materials but it all arrives on a truck and quickly put together by the Bluescope team.
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    ^^ great job, well done JPPR2.
    ^ Think you may be correct, interesting website, never heard of them before. Building & Construction | Segment Type | Bluescope Thailand
    Appears the market is opening up, bit late for some of us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    great job, well done JPPR2.
    Thanks AP2.

    I dug into our costing sheet and we used Bluescope product. They had a guys onsite when the install took place. The roof truss went up in 3 days.

    As for too late. Isn't that how it always go? Technology is always advancing. I am glad for sites like this that help others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Actually he ordered from a distributor in BKK. There is no real connection or greasing the "proverbial" skids to get by customs. This material is actually readily available and becoming quite prevalent in many homes being built these days. It is lighter and stronger and rust resistant and no open ends for creatures to crawl up into to make a home. Originally I was going to go with the basic Thai build on site process but when we talked about building materials etc the roof truss material was discussed and I immediately changed.

    Another example, our "2nd" floor (as I will call it) was all pre fab'd slab strips all ready to go. They brought a small crane on site and lifted into place. The general contractor stated that pouring a slab takes more work and time and has inherent issues with consistency and voids. In BKK I have watched numerous neighborhoods go up with pre fab'd walls and floors trucked in and put together. Of course this works efficiently when you only offer 2 or 3 floor plans and they can be mass built. I will say our house is a hybrid. Much had to be custom built and much came in pre fab'd.

    Thailand as a whole is growing in their home building skills. I know many have had some real nightmare builds even with a few big name builders. It all boils down to doing your homework, spending the time to go look at the GC's previous builds, talk to people who used him to see if any issues and go to some current site builds to see the help.

    As I looked through the hundreds of pics I have lookinf for the truss and slab pics I thought I would post a few from start some 6 years ago to the now for fun. Incentive for Thai Dhupp and others, that with patience can build a nice home to relax in until they burn you at the local Wat...HAHAHA



    Fast forward and here is a pic I took with my Mavic pro drone about 8 months ago after we had finished most of the landscaping. My FIL, wife and I did all the work.



    Aerial pic from drone. We added an outdoor kitchen and a car park shop area.

    If I am disrupting your thread Thai Dupp please let me know.
    Hi there JPPR2, and thanks for the informative posts!

    Inspiration...yes i got it now!

    your place looks fabulous....good sized plot and private too...

    no no no... as previously stated, actually I welcome these interludes. We are all building or have built and what better way to illustrate a point than with a picture or two of your own!? It makes for an interesting read!

    I am learning, so are others reading this so definitely don't stop.

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