Building a Marble Swimming Pool

[Driventowin]

I'm not going to even try to justify most of the comments with a reply as so many have been taken completely out of context anyway.. Like the one about the cost of this house or any other. I was speaking in general terms of the comparison as a whole and the level of customer I catered too in the States, as there are countless companies who just do little "cookie cutter" pools that aren't custom and a monkey could do and require no real knowledge. But think what you will it's obvious that you are going to do that anyway..

I am curious though, tell me how is it that one would make a rounded base instead of a 90 degree angle at the bottom of the pool with poured concrete all in one shot without days of additional working to achieve it? That's just one small example..

And yes... Gunite is structural.. It is the actual structure just as poured concrete is except it doesn't require all of that additional preparation like foundations and the like that this pool needed..

Yeah the Internet is a great place for misinformation too, you disseminate what is right and what is bullshit when you don't know any better..

[dirtydog]

Hmmm, my understanding of gunite is that it is sprayed cement, ie for rendering, normally go for a 10mm skim and render it off, that aint structural, and if it was, do you spray it straight onto the rebar?

[Driventowin]

Driventowin, you have added several hundred words to this thread and none of them beneficial to anyone, they consist of how great you are, how your trade secrets are the best, and thats about it, you have added no information to this thread at all, sorry, but forums are about information, not how big your knob maybe.

So that gives justification? Maybe there's just a little too much hypersensitivity here...

So I guess the comments on other threads like "polishing turtles" and such are all about information? let's be realistic here and call a spade a spade and say that a forum is just about a popularity contest and who your drinking buddy is, more than anything... There's information in what I posted just not what you wanted to hear..

[dirtydog]

Would you care to highlight the info you gave?

[Driventowin]

Hmmm, my understanding of gunite is that it is sprayed cement, ie for rendering, normally go for a 10mm skim and render it off, that aint structural, and if it was, do you spray it straight onto the rebar?

Ahhh, some worthwhile exchange.
Yes you do spray it over the rebar but with as equal amounts on both sides as possible centering the rebar throughout the structure (there's tricks to that too) and if there wasn't any trade secrets than everyone here would be doing it already, even the ones that do it still don't do it the way we do in the States.

It is not just for rendering, you spray it as thick as is required but there are limitations but not as much as poured concrete. It is sprayed concrete, the mixing with water is done at the nozzle and therefore cuts down the amount of water required considerably and less water equates to a stronger structure and less cure time, an average pool can be completely shelled, walls, floors, steps, etc. in about 3 to 4 hours max. not days or weeks and it is one solid unit without cold joints.

You mentioned the heavy equipment standing by, obviously that wasn't at 140baht per day rate since you mentioned having to drain the pool first and it's urgency. Well this technique in normal conditions (which was your situation for me) the pool can be laid out, dug, framed steeled and shelled in about 2 to 3 days max. think of how much that saves in time and money given the sometimes uncooperative weather in this environment..

One more thing I want to add.
You unfairly quipped at me about chest pounding, (though you used another analogy).Would it make you feel a whole lot more confident in what I had to say if acted like a wimp and lacked complete confidence in what I had to say? Let's play fair and read the post for what it is and not make it into something it isn't... Sound reasonable?

[dirtydog]

I am not sure why so many lights are needed? In fact I am certain that they aren't needed!

You don't understand rich people.

I would give you an estimated cost upfront because I know what the he!! I am doing and I am confident in my experience.

Everybody quotes before a job, you are not unique in this.

The pools I have seen built here for the most part take way too long which ends up costing far more for everyone involved

Cost too much for who?

maybe slightly higher in price

Ahhh, your customers.

[dirtydog]

and if there wasn't any trade secrets than everyone here would be doing it already, even the ones that do it still don't do it the way we do in the States.

Sorry to break your love affair with the USA, but they been doing that in Eastern Germany for the last 15 years at least, yeah they stole your idea and that, but hell, those English boys made good money out of it

[Texpat]

I thought marble was much more expensive than granite.

What are most pools lined with?

[dirtydog]

Driventowin, lets go back to your comments about the lights and how he doesn't need so many, now these are pictures from one of his Thailand houses, in the UK he owns 3 porshes and a couple of Lexus, not sure what his wife drives, I think a merc, anyway 2 of those porshes are the big beasty SUVs keans? and the other one a proper sports cars, when a guy is prepared to spend several hundred thousand pounds for cars you really don't bother questioning him on the poxy little stuff like 5,000baht lights, he says how many he wants, and you say, "Yes Sir", and you put those poxy lights in for him as he is the customer which is the most important thing you can have.

[dirtydog]

What are most pools lined with?

Not marble or granite, only the romans and me done that, marble is cheaper than granite.

[Marmite the Dog]

What are most pools lined with?

Ceramic tile.

[Driventowin]

Would you care to highlight the info you gave?

I see.....So the rules state one must have something of substance to contribute everytime one posts? I'm sorry I didn't see that disclaimer in there and frankly if I'm to be held to that standard then that also disqualifies untold numbers of contributors here based on much of the useless banter posted..

But hey it's your playground I guess you can make the rules read any way that's convenient and let whom ever you deem worthy to play by them too.. I'm just asking for balanced and equal consideration is all.

In Actuality this thread was deceased before I brought some life back to it anyway...

Also I forgot to mention that I did appreciate the pictures..

[dirtydog]

Yep, you resurected this thread, you stated how everything was wrong on this thread, but you forgot to say why it was wrong and how you could have done better with your trades of the secret, bit like jerking off into space I should imagine.

[Driventowin]

What are most pools lined with?

Ceramic tile.

Here they are but not in the States, In the states there are several surfaces but most are a plaster based mixed with a small aggregate stone that comes in a wide varity of colors...

Ok Dirty, that chip your sporting is growing larger and larger...Since I haven't built any pools in a former communist country before it really isn't a realisitic comparison I would be making right? Keep shining that light...I'm not going to play your game anymore.. But JFYI That is about 25 years shorter than we have, and this isn't Germany so your point escapes me? If there isn't a German over here guniting pools than what's yer point there fella?? Cause I ain't looking to build no pools in mein Swaziland..

[dirtydog]

Hey come on, you said you added loads to this thread, just highlight a couple of things you added to it