Difficult to hire Thai staff

[Fondles]

If she is working 7 days a week labour laws are being broken, lets hope you don't get caught, I assume you are providing health care as well.

I give her 5 weeks holidays per year, fully paid, when I am away in France for the summer.

the locals make their maids work 24/7, so she is on a good deal, and she knows it. Some locals were complaining I was paying her too much and give her too many holidays, destroying the labor market. They might have a point.

I don't give a shit how many holidays you allow the simple matter of the fact is you are in breach of the Thai Labour Act.

[Butterfly]

I don't give a shit how many holidays you allow the simple matter of the fact is you are in breach of the Thai Labour Act.

where is your work permit sir ?

[Thormaturge]

[Fondles]

I don't give a shit how many holidays you allow the simple matter of the fact is you are in breach of the Thai Labour Act.

where is your work permit sir ?

Sitting in my safe with my passport.

[kingwilly]

Jeeze, 9999 on a high horse there!

[Butterfly]

Sitting in my safe with my passport.

it should be at your work place, not your personal safe. Are you working from home ? if not, you are in violation of Thai Labor Laws

[Fondles]

Sitting in my safe with my passport.

it should be at your work place, not your personal safe. Are you working from home ? if not, you are in violation of Thai Labor Laws

Incorrect.

[Butterfly]

Incorrect.

so you go to work without your work permit, keep it in a safe at home, which is in complete violation of Thai Labor Laws since it should be at your work place in case a Labor Department official request it.

[Fondles]

Incorrect.

so you go to work without your work permit, keep it in a safe at home, which is in complete violation of Thai Labor Laws since it should be at your work place in case a Labor Department official request it.

Errrrr hello dickhead, where did I say I go to work without my work permit ?


Incase you had not noticed it is the weekend (Sunday the 17th of March to be exact). I carry my passport (and work permit, they are in the same carry pouch) in my work bag to and from work each day and as it is the weekend it sits in my safe.

[Thormaturge]

^
I think this is a fine detail Butters. So long as you have a WP and comply with its terms the Labour Department aren't likely to deport anyone for keeping it somewhere safe. If there is a penalty it would probably be ThB 500 or so.

[Butterfly]

So long as you have a WP and comply with its terms the Labour Department aren't likely to deport anyone for keeping it somewhere safe.

probably not, but since Fondles is into strict "Labor laws", I thought it would be nice to remind him he is probably in some kind of violation himself.

[Fondles]

So long as you have a WP and comply with its terms the Labour Department aren't likely to deport anyone for keeping it somewhere safe.

probably not, but since Fondles is into strict "Labor laws", I thought it would be nice to remind him he is probably in some kind of violation himself.

Iam in zero violation, prove me wrong.

[kingwilly]

Incorrect.

so you go to work without your work permit, keep it in a safe at home, which is in complete violation of Thai Labor Laws since it should be at your work place in case a Labor Department official request it.

Errrrr hello dickhead, where did I say I go to work without my work permit ?


Incase you had not noticed it is the weekend (Sunday the 17th of March to be exact). I carry my passport (and work permit, they are in the same carry pouch) in my work bag to and from work each day and as it is the weekend it sits in my safe.

Back and forth everyday?

You're a moron or completely naive just waiting to have it all lost or stolen and all the grief that comes from trying to replace documents like that in Thaiand.

[Thormaturge]

^
Wot he said.

Mine is with the lawyers. It saves time if we need any changes. If someone isn't happy with that then I have their card. I just keep a copy.

[9999]

Jeeze, 9999 on a high horse there!

Why, for calling Butters out on illegally exploiting unskilled workers coz he can't bend up and pick up his own undies and throw them in the washing machine?

[Fondles]

Incorrect.

so you go to work without your work permit, keep it in a safe at home, which is in complete violation of Thai Labor Laws since it should be at your work place in case a Labor Department official request it.

Errrrr hello dickhead, where did I say I go to work without my work permit ?


Incase you had not noticed it is the weekend (Sunday the 17th of March to be exact). I carry my passport (and work permit, they are in the same carry pouch) in my work bag to and from work each day and as it is the weekend it sits in my safe.

Back and forth everyday?

You're a moron or completely naive just waiting to have it all lost or stolen and all the grief that comes from trying to replace documents like that in Thaiand.

Lmao yeah the risk of a car jacking (cause that's the only method for my documents to be stolen during my daily commute) is massive ain't it. fuckin idiot.

[EriccirE]

9999 is very much on the money here.

I allow use of the computer for downloading films, social networking etc. so long as the work gets done. This is part of the reason why people turn up early; we have high-speed internet whereas I don't think anyone has a connection at home.

I also provide private health insurance.

I let my stuff do facebook, youtube etc, within reason, and of course as long as the job is done, and also depending on position.

I don't provide ealth care though.

[EriccirE]

And also, can we please get back to topic.

[chitown]

Eric, let's be clear on this. Butters has never run anything. I doubt he can run tap water into the tub without asking someone how. The guy is a socialist and that ought to speak volumes for what he thinks pay should be.

However. my opinion about salary, is based on the actual applicants that I get to see, and that is many many, and in my view, your stated salaries are very high.

I think you are a bit to naive to think this is high, it's simply normal

growth and inflation is high here, and it's easy not to take them into account

I know for a fact, because I get to see many many applicants work history/salary etc, that your estimations are high.

I assume you base your estimation on statistics, and not first hand experience?

Do not want to stir up a heated argument, and I am the first to admit I have trouble.

[chitown]

Anyone else experienced this?

10k is what you give to a maid these days, 30 days for 300 day per day,

besides your maths being awry, it doesn't work like that

most maids get around 7/8k a month, they have a day off a week

but salaries are slowly climbing, they used to get 5K

Our maid gets 4k per month and free room and board and is with us 24 /7. She works hard and is very happy to live in a nice home with air, TV and internet.

[cheekyman]

Our maid gets 4k per month and free room and board and is with us 24 /7. She works hard and is very happy to live in a nice home with air, TV and internet.

I'll bet she is you tight cnut!
What extras does she have to provide for a bonus

[chitown]

She came to us and asked us to hire her. She has no family to speak of and she is the one that suggested the pay of 4k. Her bonus is the free room and board, and getting most of the housework done in a couple of hours so she can relax and enjoy the satellite TV, internet, air nonconducting, a real bed, furniture, hot water, a nice home, the garden, real food etc.

[cheekyman]

She came to us and asked us to hire her. She has no family to speak of and she is the one that suggested the pay of 4k.

That explains everything - I thought for a minute you might be guilty of exploitation!

I wonder what would have happened if she suggested "10k" hmmm

[chitown]

She did not, so there is no need to what if anything.

The first job I got I never asked what the pay was. In fact, I toild my boss to pay me what I was worth. He liked it and I moved up in the company right away. I do not believe in minimum wage mandates set by politicians who never owned a business. I never have. I hired the best workers and paid them the best wages in town. They were all happy.

That said, this girl is very happy. She considers us family and we feel the same about her. We are talking about paying for her to finish her education.

[Butterfly]

The guy is a socialist and that ought to speak volumes for what he thinks pay should be.

what are you saying ? that I am overpaying ? sadly, I am not.

Our maid gets 4k per month and free room and board and is with us 24 /7.

jesus fucking christ, speak of exploitation, this is unacceptable, this is below minimum wage, it's slavery. No surprise from a conservative abuser.