Thread: Muslim's against Crusades banned

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Originally Posted by nigelandjan

Originally Posted by can123

You are the only one who is complaining. "Diarrhoea" is not an easy word to spell for most ordinary people. Didn't you feel the need to check the spelling before you posted ? Are you as ill-disciplined and careless in everything else you do ?

Instead of being such a pandantic twat, nit picking away at other people's thread's why don't you do an interesting thread of your own from your mouldy depressing taffyland bedsit ?

Suggestion;

How about a picture thread on the most exciting thing about South Wales ?


THE M4 GOING OUT OF IT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Better still, how about a picture of the bedsit.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by nigelandjan

Originally Posted by can123

You are the only one who is complaining. "Diarrhoea" is not an easy word to spell for most ordinary people. Didn't you feel the need to check the spelling before you posted ? Are you as ill-disciplined and careless in everything else you do ?

Instead of being such a pandantic twat, nit picking away at other people's thread's why don't you do an interesting thread of your own from your mouldy depressing taffyland bedsit ?

Suggestion;

How about a picture thread on the most exciting thing about South Wales ?


THE M4 GOING OUT OF IT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Better still, how about a picture of the bedsit.

Great to hear of another fascist Sais leaving Wales.
Don't need them there at all, and take yer BNP with ya.

By-by Nigley, watch the door don't slam your arse about face.

^who are you talking to/about?

Originally Posted by Koojo

Better still, how about a picture of the bedsit.

Yes, that's a good idea. I can't post pics of it here as this is the World News Forum. It's not a tourist attraction yet so I can't put it in that section. Any suggestions, please ? Am I allowed to start a new thread called " Where I Live", please ? This would allow us to see bedsits all over the world.

I'll just go and look for my wellies.

Originally Posted by ENT

BNP and EDF are extreme in their views and not easily tolerated by the majority,

They are the majority. Their views are centrist - it's the establishment that are the extremists with all their media censorship, bans, laws, and CCTV police state stuff.

You can't ban ideas; it only Obi-1-kenobis them.

Banning people is an overt display of failure - ThaiVisa is a case in point.

You're talking out of the side of yer neck re BNP and EDF.

They may be the majority in your hood, not mine.

Sounds like you're in lala land, obi.kenobi and all.

As you point out, you're only a figment of your imagination, and so are your views.

That appears to have gone right over your head.

One of the points I'm making is that "extremism", in the political sense is relative.

Another point is that any political regime that normalises the sort of police state measures: laws regulating expression and dissent; monitoring of the public; a coercively state-funded broadcaster that colours everything it broadcasts with a clear political hue is extremist in the behavioural sense.

Does it not strike you as unacceptable that your rights are policed and controlled to this extent? Does not concern you that you can be fined and imprisoned merely for protesting or dissenting? Have you not read the likes of Voltaire, Diderot, Orwell, Payne?

"big lie" politics is used by all statists to pitch their ideology and "playing the man not the ball" techniques to single out and discredit dissenters personally before their ideas enter the public discourse and challenge the elite.

You think it's fine to ban ideas? Are you a child? Is the government your parent to admonish you? For all who have been well-programmed by the system there is hope, as soon as you open your mind to allow your most deeply-held axioms to be challenged: those that are strong will remain; the flimsy will blow away.

'Most Britons actually support BNP policies' | Mail Online
The poll was not by the Daily Mail, so you can abandon the "attack the source" fallacy too... because their supposed rivals (albeit with a fraction of the circulation), the Guardian, shows a similar recent poll.
Searchlight poll finds huge support for far right 'if they gave up violence' | UK news | The Observer
There are usual neutrals in any poll, therefore it's reasonable to suggest that this view is a majority one; if not the largest minority one; i.e.: the mainstream, which by definition, makes it centrist.

There are only two real ideologies in the UK, the one of the establishment that is basically socially and economically "left-wing" (i.e. pro rights and anti responsibilities) and is represented by all the mainstream parties, this view is not representative of the majority of the electorate, yet it controls the levers of power, and leaves about half the electorate disenfranchised.

The other ideology is a mix of economically left-wing and socially right-wing is effectively caricatured as evil by the ruling ideology, and is excluded as a pariah.
My views are neither... I am economically right-wing, the BNP is a socialist party, just like the rest, it's only difference is that it's socially right-wing. The EDF seems like a religious-inspired ethnocentrist movement, but I'm not a fan of religion; nor English, so neither interest me, save that they are effective dissident organisations that annoy the establishment, which to me is highly laudable.

No everyone lives in a "hood", and you'd be surprised where people who oppose your views exist. Most keep their heads down to avoid being targeted as political dissidents by the fascist stormtroopers of the left.

We are all figments of our own imaginations.


The evil red sabre of Socialism is destined to lose.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs

Originally Posted by ENT

Last time I checked (2 minutes ago) UK troops are involved in Iraq and Afghanistan,the only two Muslim countries listed, both in conjunction with US troops.

Looking up US troop deployments and you'll see that 20% of US troops are deployed overseas in Muslim and non-Muslim countries and in US bases(many) globally.

As I posted on another thread on the Libya oil invasion, that USA would shortly invent an Al Quaeda boey man there, sure enough they have!

Oil rich Nigeria is now the USA's "home of international terrorism".

Hell, eh, them ragheads with boxcutters are at it again, long distance from Africa.

Amazing

Gribbs, you got a problem with divided loyalties, raghead versus sepo.

Nigerian oil will solve it though, eh, pal?

Go open up a history book you simpleton. The UK created most of the problems in the world by carving up fictitious states to support their colonial endeavors. Do you think Nigeria fell out of the sky moron? No, it was crated by the British. There never was a Nigeria until the British came to Africa. Just like there wasn't an Israel, until the British came and fucked everything up. Now keep taking those immigrants in, because you fucked up their lands. It's fucking blowback baby!

Where are you coming from Gribbs?

Can't you read?

All European colonialists from Portugal and Spain up to Sweden went off and carved up the then known world for political and fiscal gain, no issue there, dickhead.

Israel existed long before Palestine, longer even than Judea, a little younger than Cannan.

Go back to school.

Those countries ceased being colonial blood suckers long ago, while the UK is still having a go at it. The UK's history of colonization was much more devious and destructive than those countries too, we as a world are still felling its after effects today. The majority of Muslims in the UK came from countries the UK fucked up, so now they are morally obligated to take them in, clothe them, give them food and shelter. The Israel you're talking about only exist in your mind and in the propaganda of Zionist shit bags. Some Jew from Poland or Russia has no more right to the Palestinians (people who've been living in that land for a few thousand years) land then Martians do. You're a fucking hypocrite to support Jew immigrants in Palestine who routinely murder Palestinians, when they aren't doing other shit to make their lives miserable, while condeming the mostly benign Muslim immigrants in the UK.

^^Nemo.



The BNP, a far right nationalist party that advocates ethnic cleansing through exclusion of non-British, secured only 1.9% of the vote in the 2010 national election.

How does that indicate majority support for its views, as you claim?

As you point out in your link above, support for its views might increase IF they gave up violence as a means of persuasion.

It's social standpoint is exclusive and fascist, as defined.

Extremism is indeed relative, and so is fascism relative to socialism, and wealth is relative to poverty as is freedom of expression to repression.

The major political parties are merely trade negotiators, benefiting the affluent more than the rest of society. I doubt that any one of them are much more right or left wing than the other, as social idealism is now politically tailored to conserve the status quo, that which serves the top 10% of income earners.

The repressive policing powers advocated by the state to subdue rightful assembly and free speech is obviously unacceptable to any free thinker.

That type of social manipulation is common to all governments, which are all social evils, but necessary ones, and it is the citizen's right and duty to control the government through lawful means, decided by the people through consensus.

Everyone lives in a hood, even in the country.
Don't you have any neighbours?

Obviously the concept of a hood goes completely over your head.

Your final quip in your post, coupled wiyh your hopes for BNP popularity indicates a fascist leaning on your part.

^^ Gribbs,

Get a hold on yourself.

Obviously an Arab/Muslim/America supporter, while condemning UK, Jews and Israel, you blandly ignore current colonial powers other than the UK.

Uk does not exploit any colonies in the Arab or Muslim world.

Denmark, Holland, France, Portugal, Spain, NZ and American control colonies across the world.

USA also has troops stationed in various countries, ostensibly to stabilize them, but in fact are exploiting them for oil or mineral wealth.

The latest US move into Australia is indicative of this, as Australia is the largest known source of uranium.

Go figure pal.

Your claims are emotionally driven and not based on facts.

Originally Posted by ENT

^^ Gribbs,

Get a hold on yourself.

Obviously an Arab/Muslim/America supporter, while condemning UK, Jews and Israel, you blandly ignore current colonial powers other than the UK.

Uk does not exploit any colonies in the Arab or Muslim world.

Denmark, Holland, France, Portugal, Spain, NZ and American control colonies across the world.

USA also has troops stationed in various countries, ostensibly to stabilize them, but in fact are exploiting them for oil or mineral wealth.

The latest US move into Australia is indicative of this, as Australia is the largest known source of uranium.

Go figure pal.

Your claims are emotionally driven and not based on facts.

The thread is about the UK. The vast majority of Muslims in the UK are in the UK because the UK fucked up their countries. You can't accept that you're responsible for your own actions, and pointing your finger at other people and countries proves you don't have a valid argument. If the UK soldiers weren't invading countries and killing people, mustly Muslims. There wouldn't be any need for Groups like Muslims against Crusades.

^ The biggest problem UK or any European country faces re Muslims is the non-integration of Muslims into their new land of choice.
Not only do many Muslims in Europe not integrate, but choose to form enclaves of ethnic exclusivity in their host countries, they also demand that Sharia law be introduced in their host lands.

Further, extremist Muslims attempt to desecrate their host's values, as posted.

What would an Islamic country do to Xtians, Jews, Hindus or Buddhists if these groups attempted to establish their own rules over Muslim ruled lands?

Would they be let off with a fifty pound fine(or the equivalent) if found to desecrate the memorials or shrines of the local heros?

Never.
They would be killed by the mob instantly.

This kind of over-reaction by Muslims toward those who do not follow their beliefs is commonly reported.

Minority Muslim sect members are regularly murdered by Muslims.
Simply an accusation of blasphemy, such as disrespecting the Koran results in Xtians being murdered willy nilly by crazy Muslims.

The UK has every right to prosecute, curtail the behaviour and deport repeat offenders of any land if they engage in acts of desecration of the legitimate rights of the populace.

UK doesn't permit the murder of minority groups.
Islam preaches the elimination or murder of non believers. Every Friday, male Muslims are indoctrinated by the Mullah at their mosque.

Commonly, violent and vigorous jihad (effort) is urged to rid the world of non believers.

Small wonder that Islam is the most hated religion in the world other than by its own adherents.

Islam is pure and unadulterated fascism in its current intolerance to other beliefs and ways.

The invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan by US, UK and its allies was obviously an oil war, not called for any other legitimate reason.

Claiming that Islamic extremism is simply a reaction to that is to ignore growing Islamic demands for Sharia, long before the Bush/Blair conspiracy.

Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs

The vast majority of Muslims in the UK are in the UK because the UK fucked up their countries.

What a crock of shit. Can you name one muslim country that is worse off because of colonialism? They have always been utter shitholes and always will be. Those people came for the benefits and housing. Bunch of lazy animals.

Accounts.

1) While living in Stockholm in the late '80s, many Muslims attempted to seek asylum there.

Their common goal was to get a blond Swedish wife and go on welfare.
Few spoke or tried to learn Swedish, spoke a little English or French, and when I tried to be sociable with them, harangued me because they believed that I was a Xtian, roundly condemning me for all that they perceived Xtians to be.

That evening, I caught the three of them breaking into the hostel where we had met. The guards collared them as they tried to make off with stuff they'd nicked from the guests.



2)
Later that week, a young Moroccan man signed in, signed out the next day, signed back in that evening, then back out the following morning.

He was found dead in the old city, Gamla Stan, of multiple stabbings at about 1pm.
Cops came. I was quizzed, as were all the staff.

I do a little graphology,(a useful skill of trade) and pointed out to the cops that the man's signature had undergone a radical change between time (a) when he first signed out and time (b) when he returned later that day.

I considered that in that time span, he'd met his future murderer, was threatened and returned home.

The following morning (the third day) he left, re-met the man and was killed.

Cops gave me arseholes, rubbishing the theory, but one cop followed it up and the murderer was arrested within about ten days.

He was the bloke that the victim had met on his first day out, a rival over a woman.
So it goes.

The story was posted in Dagbladet.



3)
A Swedish lady friend married a Muslim in Stockholm and she was supporting him.
He told her one day that he had ordered a new lounge suite and coffee table for the living room of their flat, she was pleased that he'd taken such interest in making their home comfortable.

When the stuff was iistalled, he informed her that it was for the exclusive use of his male Muslim frieds and he.
She was relegated to the kitchen.

They divorced shortly after.
She had to call the cops to be able to leave.

So much for Islamic culture and Muslim ability to integrate anywhere, let alone UK.

Originally Posted by ENT

Accounts.

1) While living in Stockholm in the late '80s, many Muslims attempted to seek asylum there.

Their common goal was to get a blond Swedish wife and go on welfare.
Few spoke or tried to learn Swedish, spoke a little English or French, and when I tried to be sociable with them, harangued me because they believed that I was a Xtian, roundly condemning me for all that they perceived Xtians to be.

That evening, I caught the three of them breaking into the hostel where we had met. The guards collared them as they tried to make off with stuff they'd nicked from the guests.



2)
Later that week, a young Moroccan man signed in, signed out the next day, signed back in that evening, then back out the following morning.

He was found dead in the old city, Gamla Stan, of multiple stabbings at about 1pm.
Cops came. I was quizzed, as were all the staff.

I do a little graphology,(a useful skill of trade) and pointed out to the cops that the man's signature had undergone a radical change between time (a) when he first signed out and time (b) when he returned later that day.

I considered that in that time span, he'd met his future murderer, was threatened and returned home.

The following morning (the third day) he left, re-met the man and was killed.

Cops gave me arseholes, rubbishing the theory, but one cop followed it up and the murderer was arrested within about ten days.

He was the bloke that the victim had met on his first day out, a rival over a woman.
So it goes.

The story was posted in Dagbladet.



3)
A Swedish lady friend married a Muslim in Stockholm and she was supporting him.
He told her one day that he had ordered a new lounge suite and coffee table for the living room of their flat, she was pleased that he'd taken such interest in making their home comfortable.

When the stuff was iistalled, he informed her that it was for the exclusive use of his male Muslim frieds and he.
She was relegated to the kitchen.

They divorced shortly after.
She had to call the cops to be able to leave.

So much for Islamic culture and Muslim ability to integrate anywhere, let alone UK.

Just a scratch on the tip of the iceburg I fear.

Got some more tales to tell re pre Iraq war Muslims.

Weird lot.

Some other time, mate.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Those people came for the benefits and housing. Bunch of lazy animals.

" Goodness gracious me msab I'm come to drive number 67 bus in Pekham " put put ding ding

^ you tokin baht me man?

Are you wanting to be buying an elephant?

Very cheap.

[QUOTE=harrybarracuda;1938889]

Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs

Originally Posted by ENT

The vast majority of Muslims in the UK are in the UK because the UK fucked up their countries.

What utter horseshit.

They're virtually all economic migrants because their countries are poverty-stricken shitholes, thanks to either corrupt politicians or military dictatorships and oligarchies.

Apart from the relatively well paid jobs we offered during the 50's, they weren't flooding into Britain until we set the Welfare state up and started handing out taxpayers cash to the scrounging bastards.

Now every scrounging c*nt and his auntie is an asylum seeker (read: freeloader).

And the Muslim ones are particularly detestable, thanks to the do-gooders saying they have to be protected because of their retarded, primitive "religion" (read: brainwashing).

There is fuck all benign about Islam you thick twat.

The quote you refer to in this post is not mine, but Gribbs'.

Harry, you are deliberately misleading posters.

What in fact is your problem with me?

From the slant of your post, the only thick twat is you, if that reference was intended to offend.

I want you to correct your mistake, harry.
and the horse shit spouted is yours.

Originally Posted by ENT

I want you to correct your mistake, harry.
and the horse shit spouted is yours.

ENT,

I'm happy to affirm that the quote is not yours (especially is it's on the same page), and it's a bug on this fucking board and not deliberate.

So don't get your panties in a twist.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So don't get your panties in a twist.

Mabe a new thread on the way ?

Sorry, is that a Welsh thing?