Thread: Cop punches Jaywalker

Originally Posted by bsnub

No it didn't fuckwad. It was already well underway after the tape was rolling. Get a life and stop throwing out that "racism" word to back your shat wrong viewpoints. You are on the ropes and wrong so that is no surprise.

So how do you know what happened before? All your points of view are mere conjecture so it is you who is on the wrong ropes but seeing as you are an American I will forgive you (can't say regarding the credit crunch though).

Originally Posted by WhiteKnight

Originally Posted by bsnub

No it didn't fuckwad. It was already well underway after the tape was rolling. Get a life and stop throwing out that "racism" word to back your shat wrong viewpoints. You are on the ropes and wrong so that is no surprise.

So how do you know what happened before? All your points of view are mere conjecture so it is you who is on the wrong ropes but seeing as you are an American I will forgive you (can't say regarding the credit crunch though).

Dude it is all over the media around here. You are making an ass out of yourself. Yes I am an American and a Seattleite..

Forgive me all you want. I love how you foreigners think you know more about what is going on in my country or even worse my city then I do.

Originally Posted by WhiteKnight

Originally Posted by Panda

Unfortunately back-up doesnt always travel as quickly as radio waves.
And lone cops wouldn't normally call for back-up when detaining a female jaywalker. We dont know if the cop called for back-up when the situation escalated, but he certainly didnt appear to have a free hand to make a call.

That is not the issue; he stopped her and the issue got out of control at which point he should have simply ceased his actions and as I said before then called for backup - he would have had free hand then and could have pulled his gun had he needed to.

You are just trying to justify some thuggery along with one some obvious racists who just couldn't help to seize on the issue the moment this thread appeared.

A fucking mazing! On one hand you are suggesting the cops should back off and step back when an offender resists arrest. Then in the next breath you talk about him drawing his gun. The use of deadly force against an unarmed jaywalker.

The only criticism I have of the cop is that he didnt use more force to subdue the first woman at the start in order to stop the situation dragging on and escalating.
But then again we dont know how far away back-up was and maybe he was just going gently on the woman to buy time in view of the unsupportive crowd of hecklers with videos running

The cop was processing a lot of information and making a lot of decisions in a very difficult situation. This was not just a simple example of a police officer enforcing the law, but a broader social issue with a surrounding crowd looking to blow it up into a police brutality/racism issue. Just listen to some of the comments from the crowd.

The fact is that if he would have laid off these girls would have not. In other parts of the US this would not have even been news.

Yeah, like Alabama and Kentucky? Sheesh, what happened to the good old days when you could just string 'em up from the nearest tree?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The fact is that if he would have laid off these girls would have not. In other parts of the US this would not have even been news.

Yeah, like Alabama and Kentucky? Sheesh, what happened to the good old days when you could just string 'em up from the nearest tree?

Fuckin sicko extremist. This was a person who was clearly assaulting a officer of the law. She deserved what she got.

Originally Posted by WhiteKnight

There was a highly confrontational crowd all around him.

You should go get a job in a circus none of the people standing around took any part in the confrontation whatsoever as was patently clear in the video - maybe you have been smoking a little too much weed lately!

Maybe you missed the part where the second woman physically intervened to prevent the officer effecting an arrest. Or maybe you didnt have your audio on to hear the inflammatory comments from the angry crowd.

Originally Posted by Panda

Maybe you missed the part where the second woman physically intervened to prevent the officer effecting an arrest. Or maybe you didnt have your audio on to hear the inflammatory comments from the angry crowd.

I heard the crowd quite clearly and there was only one comment with nobody other than the girl's friend intervening hardly confrontational was it? As for your other post, I never said he should draw his gun only he would have had his hands free and could have equally used his mace spray, learn to understand what people say instead of imputing your own meaning!

Originally Posted by WhiteKnight

Originally Posted by Panda

Maybe you missed the part where the second woman physically intervened to prevent the officer effecting an arrest. Or maybe you didnt have your audio on to hear the inflammatory comments from the angry crowd.

I heard the crowd quite clearly and there was only one comment with nobody other than the girl's friend intervening hardly confrontational was it? As for your other post - learn to understand what people say instead of imputing your own meaning!

In other parts of the world the two of them would have been shot dead. Race would not have mattered.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The fact is that if he would have laid off these girls would have not. In other parts of the US this would not have even been news.

Yeah, like Alabama and Kentucky? Sheesh, what happened to the good old days when you could just string 'em up from the nearest tree?

Yes, times have changed alright. Now if the cops try to give them a ticket for jaywalking they are accused of being racist. And if offenders try to flee and have to be arrested when they put up a fight, the cops are accused of police brutality.

Try it yourself and you will get the same result in any country. Its just the law and it applies to everyone regardless of colour. Jaywalking, speeding, littering, -- it doesnt matter. Treat the law and the police officers enforcing it with such gross disrespect and you are going to get arrested when you resist being legally detained. Being black or any other minority is no exemption from the law of the land.

Nail em up I say, nail some sense in to them.

^ I will take it a step further, This whole incident was stagged by the NCCAA. The current acting Police chief is Latino, however the outside candidate is black. The mayor is currently deciding to chose between the two, This is a smear campaign.

Originally Posted by WhiteKnight

Originally Posted by Panda

Maybe you missed the part where the second woman physically intervened to prevent the officer effecting an arrest. Or maybe you didnt have your audio on to hear the inflammatory comments from the angry crowd.

I heard the crowd quite clearly and there was only one comment with nobody other than the girl's friend intervening hardly confrontational was it? As for your other post, I never said he should draw his gun only he would have had his hands free and could have equally used his mace spray, learn to understand what people say instead of imputing your own meaning!

Oh now its "mace spray" is it. Actually, you didnt say that at all in your earlier post. So instead of stepping back and drawing his gun, now you are saying he should have used "mace spray" on the women. You just keep digging the hole deeper for yourself. Any increases on maybe Tasering them?

Had Mr White Knight been in control of the situation as a cop he would have shot em first then hit em with pepper spray. Brilliant police work there WK.

Perhaps you could get a job as adviser to US Police departments.

Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore

Nail em up I say, nail some sense in to them.

If a whitie tries the same thing they get the same result.
Easy to test out the principle. Next time a cop pulls you up for some minor offence, just tell him to fuck off and walk away. Then if he tries to detain you, start a fight with him. I think you already know what the result would be. Dam racist cops picking on whities like that.

Originally Posted by bsnub

^ I will take it a step further, This whole incident was stagged by the NCCAA. The current acting Police chief is Latino, however the outside candidate is black. The mayor is currently deciding to chose between the two, This is a smear campaign.

As said earlier, there is a social/political angle to all of this. Unfortunately the cops are duty bound to enforce the law impartially, regardless of race. That puts incidents like this one in the opening post in the limelight, not because the cop acted in a racist manner in carrying out his duty, but simply because it was a white cop and a couple of black offenders. Cops are often the meat in the sandwich when politicans start playing the race card.

I agree with the cop.

right, wrong, or indifferent, to bad the young cop is going to hang for this. he did not handle the situation very well and put himself in a situation where he did not leave himself an out, or any cover. tooo bad for the cop.

Originally Posted by Muadib

Ah, the usual apologists showing their true colors...

On the face of it, the officer was enforcing the law... The perp resisted arrest, then another woman became involved, also resisting the officer... He was well within his rights to use force to subdue to woman... I'm surprised he didn't use a taser on her...

Doesn't matter that she is black, blue, green, yellow or white... Anyone resisting arrest would receive the same treatment...

Personally, I would have preferred to see him choke her out. Or maybe a big takedown with a knee in the back while applying the cuffs. But I am a bit old fashioned like that. The smack in the chops for the second attacker was just a bonus. Good to see the boys didnt want to play as they undoubtedly knew police back-up could be coming around the corner at any time. Note how the second female attacker stayed back when the police officer directed her to and she realized the boys were not going to get into the fray. Females sometimes get involved in violence in conflicts in a purposeful victim role so as to incite further violence from their male friends. This was obviously a good example although the guys decided a better choice in videoing the proceedings and giving only verbal support. An example of how good public awareness of reasonable standards of law enforcement can prevent anarchy and mob attacks on cops enforcing everyones law.

The cop shouda tazed the Ho immediately when she first assulted him.
Put that bitch down with 10Kvdc!

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I'm sure it's all white american posters who applaud a grown white man punching a black woman. How very big and brave.

Maybe this video should have a burning cross in it.

I'm not a big cop fan but he used too much restraint. That is not a black woman it is an aggressive loud mouth nigra assaulting a cop and insighting a riot. Whatever the maximum is she should get it.

Originally Posted by Bangkok gooner

How can it be alright to punch someone half your size in the face for a minor offence such as Jaywalking.

Are you for real? I did not witness any J walking and neither did you. I did witness 2.30 minutes of resisting law enforcement, assault on an officer, and disorderly conduct. The Chicago PoPo would not have been so gentle.

Originally Posted by SEA Traveler

right, wrong, or indifferent, to bad the young cop is going to hang for this. he did not handle the situation very well and put himself in a situation where he did not leave himself an out, or any cover. tooo bad for the cop.

He will not "hang" at all. He used the minimal force and no doubt did was he was trained to do....actually his amount of force was well below what he could have done.

Police don't normally punch people in the face like that. It's a complete misuse of force and the cop should be severely disciplined over it, even if he was right to arrest the girl for interfering in the first place.