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    Whaler ignores call to leave Australian waters
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    12 Jan, 2012

    A JAPANESE whaling ship has defied high-level Australian complaints to stay in the waters of World Heritage-listed Macquarie Island.

    The harpoon-equipped whale hunter Yushin Maru No.3 was still there late yesterday, hours after the Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, said the ship was leaving.

    ''I'm aware that there has been one vessel which I'm advised has been in Australian territorial waters and I'll advise that it will leave Australian territorial waters,'' Ms Gillard said.

    The Australian embassy told the Japanese government on Tuesday that whaling vessels were not welcome in the country's waters, repeating earlier complaints.

    But the Japanese ship was photographed yesterday within a few miles of the coast of Macquarie Island, which is part of the state of Tasmania.

    The Sea Shepherd anti-whaling group said the harpoon ship continued trailing its vessel, Bob Barker, inside the 12-nautical-mile territorial limit all day.

    ''Things seem to be reaching a boiling point here,'' the Bob Barker's first mate, Peter Hammarstedt, said. ''It has followed us on circuits of the island, keeping right inside the 12-mile zone.''

    The Bob Barker sought refuge at Macquarie Island to try to shake the ship off its stern. As long as some Japanese vessels are able to keep tabs on Sea Shepherd activists, the rest of the fleet can continue whaling.

    ANU professor of international law Don Rothwell said if Yushin Maru No.3 was staying close to Macquarie Island it was violating the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea which would normally allow a ship to proceed though these waters.

    ''The actions of Yushin Maru No.3 are not consistent with the right of innocent passage,'' Professor Rothwell said.

    The Greens leader, Bob Brown, said the ship's presence was illegal and called for a naval vessel to be sent there.

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    Stun Grenades

    Japanese whalers hurl stun grenades at Sea Shepherd
    01/12/2012



    TOKYO (majirox news) — Crewmen aboard the Japanese Fisheries Protection vessel Shonan Maru 2 on Jan. 11, raised the ante of violence by hurling stun grenades at Sea Shepherd crew members who were dogging the whalers in an inflatable boat. The incident happened in the frigid seas off Antarctica, where Sea Shepherd has been trying to to interfere with Japanese whalers who kill whales in the name of “scientific research.”

    According to Slate magazine, “Stun grenades create an intense flash — as bright as 1 million candles burning at once, along with a boom that registers at upwards of 175 decibels.” Supposedly, victims of stun grenades are both blinded and deafened for five seconds, but the magazine says that some people report hearing and vision loss for days afterwards.

    “Soldiers who use stun grenades are advised to wear earplugs and visors as well as taking cover once the device has been thrown,” the magazine noted. Though now a standard item in both military and police arsenals, particularly for use in hostage situations, stun grenades have already been responsible for the deaths of two people.

    The Japanese Coast Guard reported that a Sea Shepherd inflatable boat was attempting to disrupt whaling and two members of the Guard threw stun grenades at them in an attempt to drive them off. Two Sea Shepherd boats approached the Japanese whalers at around 11 a.m. and continued their harassing action for more than an hour, including dragging a rope near the Shonan Maru 2 in what the Japanese Coast Guard saw as an attempt to foul the ship’s propellers.

    After the Sea Shepherd boat refused to heed warnings issued over a bullhorn to veer off, the crewmen aboard the Shonan Maru 2 threw two stun grenades at the boats. The Japanese Coast Guard claims that though this was the first time on this particular research voyage that stun grenades had been thrown at Sea Shepherd boats, they have used them a number of times before.

    The portion of the Southern Ocean where Japanese “research whaling” takes place is within the Australian-claimed exclusive economic zone (EEZ), and Australia currently has a case before the International Court of Justice in The Hague seeking a stop to whaling there. Although the Japanese are sensitive about any foreign economic operations in their own EEZ, such as by Chinese or Korean fishing boats, they appear to believe that they operate under a different standard when it comes to fishing within Australia’s EEZ.

    The Southern Ocean bordering Antarctica, where Japanese “research whaling” takes place, is one of the most storm-driven and dangerous oceans in the world. Under these conditions, the use by the Japanese of potentially fatal weapons to drive off anti-whaling protestors marks what many would consider a dangerous and unnecessary escalation, in a dispute where there is little sympathy for their side.

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    SAS Weapons - Stun Grenade



    The blinding flash and deafening bang of stun grenades give an SAS entry team a few vital seconds advantage when clearing a room.

    When the Special Air Service set up its Counter Terrorist unit, the CRW wing, it sent a specification for a stun device to Royal Ordnance Enfield. The result was the G60 stun grenade, or 'flash-bang'.

    The aim of the flashbang is to disorientate and distract hostiles in a room, giving the entry team a few precious moments in which to enter and neutralise any threats. Since its development in the late 70s, the flashbang concept has been adopted by many militaries and police forces around the world.

    The stun grenade contains a mercury and magnesium powder which upon detonation creates a blinding flash, equivalent to 300,000 candlepower. The 160 decibels of sound produced by the grenade not only shocks and stuns but is also loud enough to disrupt the balance function of anyone in range, causing severe dizziness. Modern stun grenades have evolved to detonate multiple times and can contain irritants such as CS or CN tear gas. SAS assaulters become gradually conditioned to the effects of flash-bangs during training. Their equipment also protects them : tinted eye pieces in SF-100 respirators protect against the flash and the respirator itself guards against the effects of the smoke and gas released by the grenades, whilst ear-plugs protect the trooper's hearing.

    The SAS used their flash-bangs when they assisted German special forces (GSG-9) as they stormed a hi-jacked airliner at Mogadishu airport in 1977. As the GSG-9 team assaulted the plane, 2 SAS men hurled flash-bangs towards the cockpit, causing confusion within. The Regiment used stun-grenades during its breaking of the Iranian Embassy Siege in 1980 and again at Peterhead Prison.

    The SBS also use the flash-bang in the maritime counter-terrorist role. Like much of their gear, SBS flash-bang's are water-proof.

    Undercover operators in the SRR and their predecessors, the Det, carry/carried flash-bangs, mostly as a method of breaking contact when ambushed.



    Stun Grenades come in a range of models featuring single or multiple detonations and those that release micronised CS or CN tear gas particles.

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    so now we have Japanese using weapons of war in Australia’s EEZ .

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    Pretty sure stun grenades are legal in many countries, we used to sell them without any paperwork.



    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Also included is an article concerning the latest Japanese suicide rate, 30,000 +/yr.
    They are committing suicide in sympathy for the whales? Or is it about as relevant as to how many times Japs have a poo perday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Pretty sure stun grenades are legal in many countries, we used to sell them without any paperwork.
    equally certain they are NOT legal in Australia

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    ^In the UK they don't allow prisoners in our jails to have them also, so pretty much the same

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    Standard op for repelling pirates off the Somali coast, the Malacca Straits. If no affect on the pirates the next step is single shot rifles, then submachine guns. If still no affect on the pirates the use of helicopter gunships and 5" deck guns.



    next



    lastly some pyrotechnics for the kill everything boys

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    Standard op for repelling pirates off the Somali coast, the Malacca Straits. If no affect on the pirates the next step is single shot rifles, then submachine guns. If still no affect on the pirates the use of helicopter gunships and 5" deck guns.
    You really couldn't blame the Japs if they also take up this stance against pirates, Goodbye Sea Shepard

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    The Somali pirates are only "inspecting" the cargoes of ships to ensure no biohazards/nuclear waste are on board or are destined for their pristine tourist beaches.

    They are misunderstood greens and their leaders "mispoke" at the press conferences, held weekly.

    The ransoms are legitimate claims for the restitution of their fishing stocks and beaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Pretty sure stun grenades are legal in many countries, we used to sell them without any paperwork.



    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Also included is an article concerning the latest Japanese suicide rate, 30,000 +/yr.
    They are committing suicide in sympathy for the whales? Or is it about as relevant as to how many times Japs have a poo perday?
    Talked with many Japs lately?

    They're not a very happy chappies any more.

    What with the tsunami,....... and radiation levels around 4,500 times normal in the sea at Fukushima,...... and radiation spread further than the official danger zone there,..... and the unemployed tsunami victims having their unemployment benefits cut off this week,.... and the whaling not going well,...........and the relief funds having to go to the whaling,.....,.....pretty relevant and no tourism cos no one trusts the official radiation story ........and the EQs predicted to continue at the existing rate and magnitude there for the next few decades,......... and the Russians and Chinks buzzing them today,...the suicide rate is slightly lower last rear only because nearly 20,000 got wiped in the tsunami,.....

    Not much reason to be happy.,,,,


    Wacking out a few greenies on the high seas, might cheer them up a bit though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    You really couldn't blame the Japs if they also take up this stance against pirates, Goodbye Sea Shepard

    "Piracy is an act of robbery or criminal violence at sea.
    " (wikipedia)

    Aren't the Japanese robbing the seas? And aren't they committing violence--arguably criminal violence--against the whales who are fighting for their existence as a species?

    Therefore, it is the Japanese who are the pirates.

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    ^"Crime is the breach of rules or laws for which some governing authority (via mechanisms such as legal systems) can ultimately prescribe a conviction. "

    You will not get closer than 100m to a US government ship before you are challanged, at 50m you are fired at with a warning shot and at 10m you will be killed. The Japanes on the other hand invite you to stay for a cruise - Australia to the Antarctic to Japan, and offer you sushi - a delicacy to many and an expensive meal in the west, along with peace and quiet for your meditation - the brig.

    Quote Originally Posted by guyinthailand
    Aren't the Japanese robbing the seas?
    No
    Quote Originally Posted by guyinthailand
    And aren't they committing violence--arguably criminal violence--against the whales who are fighting for their existence as a species
    No more so than the millions of other animals slaughtered every day for our stomachs.
    Quote Originally Posted by guyinthailand
    Therefore, it is the Japanese who are the pirates
    No

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    The other species you mention are not facing extinction. To hunt a species to extinction is criminal. Therefore, the Japanese are engaging in criminal acts.

    Not all crimes are covered by 'laws'. We all know how throughout history the controlling elites have manipulated 'laws' to their advantage. Many laws have been enacted to enslave peoples and, in this case, help greedy corporations hunt a species to near extinction.

    To not act to protect these whales is 'criminal'.

    Civil disobedience has thousands of years of history. For example, "Thoreau's 1848 essay Civil Disobedience, originally titled "Resistance to Civil Government", has had a wide influence on many later practitioners of civil disobedience. The driving idea behind the essay is that citizens are morally responsible for their support of aggressors, even when such support is required by law."
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    Quote Originally Posted by guyinthailand
    The other species you mention are not facing extinction. To hunt a species to extinction is criminal.
    So your alright with eating dolphins then? Supposedly just like tuna which is quite delicious

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    If they are near extinction then of course it is not 'alright'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    The Greens leader, Bob Brown, said the ship's presence was illegal and called for a naval vessel to be sent there.
    Finally something legitimate to complain about. Are they gonna send a ship or not? There was a lovely naval warfare 'discussion' going on in the Iran thread. Maybe Australia can confirm the effectiveness of their missiles on live targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
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    The Southern Ocean bordering Antarctica, where Japanese “research whaling” takes place, is one of the most storm-driven and dangerous oceans in the world. Under these conditions, the use by the Japanese of potentially fatal weapons to drive off anti-whaling protestors marks what many would consider a dangerous and unnecessary escalation, in a dispute where there is little sympathy for their side.

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    Said without a hint of a realisation of the irony inherent in that statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ^"Crime is the breach of rules or laws for which some governing authority (via mechanisms such as legal systems) can ultimately prescribe a conviction. "

    You will not get closer than 100m to a US government ship before you are challanged, at 50m you are fired at with a warning shot and at 10m you will be killed. The Japanes on the other hand invite you to stay for a cruise - Australia to the Antarctic to Japan, and offer you sushi - a delicacy to many and an expensive meal in the west, along with peace and quiet for your meditation - the brig.

    Quote Originally Posted by guyinthailand
    Aren't the Japanese robbing the seas?
    No
    Quote Originally Posted by guyinthailand
    And aren't they committing violence--arguably criminal violence--against the whales who are fighting for their existence as a species
    No more so than the millions of other animals slaughtered every day for our stomachs.
    Quote Originally Posted by guyinthailand
    Therefore, it is the Japanese who are the pirates
    No


    Above is a typical ostrich response, that of a person in denial.

    Deniers behave as they do because the truth makes them feel insecure.

    As a result, they tend to seek others of like mind for comfort and support of their limited point of view.

    If confronted with any evidence not accepted by them and their peers, deniers feel further threatened by the "elephant in the room".

    Any information presented that disturbs their world view is attacked out of hand in a sarcastic emotionally driven tirade by them and their collective.

    Facts rarely sway their their beliefs, as independent thinking is not a distinguishing characteristic of deniers. Deniers will instead kneejerk to their latest group jingoism.

    "Red herring" points of debate are usually presented to others and themselves to ridicule and distract others from facing the reality that is threatening to overwhelm their rigidly held group mindset, resulting in an emotionally charged mob reaction.

    These people are the normaloids, clones and sheeples that are used by their controllers, the ones who risk losing or gaining the most from the denial, who quickly rush to threaten with legal action against and intimidation of the (usually) minority view holders.

    Deniers worship Big Brother, because Big Brother has great power, in their eyes, and clinging to Big Brother and his views give them some sense of security.

    All to no avail in the end as the fard facts of reality catch up with them and their shaky world collapses about their ears.

    Ohoh is an example of such a mindset.

    He is in denial of the reality of the necessity for a balanced homogenous biosphere, where all life is essentially interdependent.

    Destruction of that delicate balance by whaling and fishing in protected environments
    simply causes our own life support system to collapse.
    Last edited by ENT; 13-01-2012 at 06:28 AM.

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    As you admit, obviously so.

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    Japanese Whalers Use Flashbangs.


    Whale Wars - Flashbang Grenade Attack - YouTube

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    Japanese use unidentified weapon.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen

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    WHALING

    Whale Wars: Raw Whale Kill - YouTube


    Did ya like that?

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