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    Transparecy, nothing to hide, i think this could be acceptable, without public outrage.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I can't agree with this. Look, if some freak show punk wants to walk around with hairpins thru' his or her face or whatever they are free to do so. I don't think it is legit to 'ban the Burkha' as such.

    What is legit is to regulate the circumstances and places in which it can and can't be worn. Driving, schoolteaching, nursing, passport & ID photoes, places with a 'national security' importance such as airports- forget about it. But if someone wants to join the Freak circus and wander round the streets in one of these things, they have a right to do so.

    What about the 2 kilo's of semtex concealed under her clothes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnyrover View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I can't agree with this. Look, if some freak show punk wants to walk around with hairpins thru' his or her face or whatever they are free to do so. I don't think it is legit to 'ban the Burkha' as such.

    What is legit is to regulate the circumstances and places in which it can and can't be worn. Driving, schoolteaching, nursing, passport & ID photoes, places with a 'national security' importance such as airports- forget about it. But if someone wants to join the Freak circus and wander round the streets in one of these things, they have a right to do so.

    What about the 2 kilo's of semtex concealed under her clothes?
    Indeed, what about it?

    Are you claiming that wearing a burkha is a prequisite to concealing semtex under clothing?

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    Good debate about this subject last night on Amanpour. The argument was put forth that in Europe, the burka is really only worn by the the most conservative segment of Islamic women and has come to sybolize extremist, offensive political beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I can't agree with this. Look, if some freak show punk wants to walk around with hairpins thru' his or her face or whatever they are free to do so. I don't think it is legit to 'ban the Burkha' as such.

    What is legit is to regulate the circumstances and places in which it can and can't be worn. Driving, schoolteaching, nursing, passport & ID photoes, places with a 'national security' importance such as airports- forget about it. But if someone wants to join the Freak circus and wander round the streets in one of these things, they have a right to do so.
    Suicide bombers have a variety of targests - anything or everything is a target - how can you tell whats under the burkha?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meepho View Post
    Transparecy, nothing to hide, i think this could be acceptable, without public outrage.



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    Confucius say : " If walk into room and see moslem and Cobra - kill moslem first"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaiguy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I can't agree with this. Look, if some freak show punk wants to walk around with hairpins thru' his or her face or whatever they are free to do so. I don't think it is legit to 'ban the Burkha' as such.

    What is legit is to regulate the circumstances and places in which it can and can't be worn. Driving, schoolteaching, nursing, passport & ID photoes, places with a 'national security' importance such as airports- forget about it. But if someone wants to join the Freak circus and wander round the streets in one of these things, they have a right to do so.
    Suicide bombers have a variety of targests - anything or everything is a target - how can you tell whats under the burkha?
    So what do you propose, the banning of all bulky outer garments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaiguy View Post
    Suicide bombers have a variety of targests - anything or everything is a target - how can you tell whats under the burkha?
    Indeed. Wonder how many yankerikkan school students have massacred their peers with sub-machine guns that were hidden under their baggy t-shirts.

    It is simply an outrage that US high school students are allowed to wear loose clothing when they are all murdering scum just waiting to massacre you and your family.

    A virus. That's what they are, a God damn human virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallalai View Post



    Transparent burka - Ghent photographer Filip Naudts will soon open the exhibition ‘La clé du boudoir' (the key to the bedroom), featuring famous Flemish people. The image advertising the exhibit shows Gorcha Davydova, a Flemish-Kazakh stand-up comedian, in a transparent burka. In another photo Davydova appears as Maria Magdalena, stripped to the waist. Naudts: This photo is not meant in any way as a statement. I do not want to provoke anybody, not offend anybody's feelings, but I will not curtail my artistic freedom. The burka is indeed worn by Islamic women, but in spite of that, they do not yet have a patent on that piece of clothing.

    The real kick would be if she appears as "Aisha". Then we got those crazy muzzies going nuts again. But we are becoming more scared of those nuts and no one is ready to open up his mouth. I'd say its time to provoke those idiots, and see their REAL faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I can't agree with this. Look, if some freak show punk wants to walk around with hairpins thru' his or her face or whatever they are free to do so. I don't think it is legit to 'ban the Burkha' as such.

    What is legit is to regulate the circumstances and places in which it can and can't be worn. Driving, schoolteaching, nursing, passport & ID photoes, places with a 'national security' importance such as airports- forget about it. But if someone wants to join the Freak circus and wander round the streets in one of these things, they have a right to do so.
    Apples or Oranges ?
    C'mon Sabang how can you compare one with the other. The punk is degrading himself and the woman is being degraded. I have understanding for your comment only because you are a man. Keeping women down in their proper place has been man's major concern. (should you be trolling me, well then you did a good job )

    If we ignore such bizarre ideas for a moment and investigate if the burqa was worn by the earliest generations of Muslims, then the facts tell another story. Historians have pointed out that the tent-style burqa became the dominant form of veiling only after the Muslims defeated the more advanced Persian and Eastern Byzantine empires. Their nobilities kept their women away from the gaze of other men. This was a symbol of affluence and power. When these empires fell to the Arabs, the latter began to imitate this practice since they were the new upper class in society. Thus when the caliphate of Baghdad, under the Abbasids, had consolidated, the black burqa became a status symbol of upper class families and naturally those from the lower orders who wanted to enhance status would require their women to follow the same. Most of the ahadith, which prescribe complete coverage of women, were a product of the period that corresponded to the annexation of Asia Minor and Persia by Muslims. Therefore, the French parliamentarians seem to have done their homework seriously.There is, of course, a deeper philosophical aspect to it too. Can a civilisation that treats its women as inferior and its men as sexually uncontrollable claim to be the bearer of the best values of common humanity? I have my very serious doubts. Saudi Arabia, Iran and the defunct Taliban regime that ruled Afghanistan briefly during 1996-2001, and later the different parts of the NWFP, all represent, without any doubt, the worst offenders against the dignity of equality of women. A young Pakistani scholar, Taimur Rahman, has prepared a list of all the atrocious rules and laws the Taliban imposed on women to keep them out of the public eye. It can be accessed at: Educate yourself about the Taliban – by Taimur Rahman | Let Us Build Pakistan (LUBP).
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    What I find even more scary is how other religious groups are in favour of wearing a burqa. It shows how religious groups controll our lifes every day. Its all about keeping their affluence and power.
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    I can't agree with this. Look, if some freak show punk wants to walk around with hairpins thru' his or her face or whatever they are free to do so. I don't think it is legit to 'ban the Burkha' as such.

    What is legit is to regulate the circumstances and places in which it can and can't be worn. Driving, schoolteaching, nursing, passport & ID photoes, places with a 'national security' importance such as airports- forget about it. But if someone wants to join the Freak circus and wander round the streets in one of these things, they have a right to do so.
    Suicide bombers have a variety of targests - anything or everything is a target - how can you tell whats under the burkha?
    So what do you propose, the banning of all bulky outer garments?
    Good idea lets start with those that cover from top of head to tip of toe? - get real and get into a true perspective. or does your wife wear this ?

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    Suicide bombers have a variety of targests - anything or everything is a target - how can you tell whats under the burkha?
    Indeed. Wonder how many yankerikkan school students have massacred their peers with sub-machine guns that were hidden under their baggy t-shirts.

    It is simply an outrage that US high school students are allowed to wear loose clothing when they are all murdering scum just waiting to massacre you and your family.

    A virus. That's what they are, a God damn human virus.
    It is simply an outrage that US high school students are allowed to wear loose clothing when they are all murdering scum just waiting to massacre you and your family.

    Well they have no option these days as violin cases are kinda "infra dig " and also very uncool ! Machine gun Kelly must be spinning in his grave?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaiguy View Post
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    I can't agree with this. Look, if some freak show punk wants to walk around with hairpins thru' his or her face or whatever they are free to do so. I don't think it is legit to 'ban the Burkha' as such.

    What is legit is to regulate the circumstances and places in which it can and can't be worn. Driving, schoolteaching, nursing, passport & ID photoes, places with a 'national security' importance such as airports- forget about it. But if someone wants to join the Freak circus and wander round the streets in one of these things, they have a right to do so.
    Suicide bombers have a variety of targests - anything or everything is a target - how can you tell whats under the burkha?
    So what do you propose, the banning of all bulky outer garments?
    Good idea lets start with those that cover from top of head to tip of toe? - get real and get into a true perspective. or does your wife wear this ?
    Your central thesis that a burkha is a prequisite or even commonly in use by suicide bombers to conceal bombs is patently absurd. Do you even have any credible statistics or other coroborrating data on the number of suicide bomb attacks by burkha clad terrorists to back this up?

    Therefore any notion that by banning the burkha you'll somehow reduce or mitigate suicide bombings is equally as ridiculous and absurd. It would be like attempting to prevent suicides by passing a law that depressed gun owners aren't allowed to keep their guns loaded.

    Oh, and what my wife wears is none of your fucking business.

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    ^^ A virus mate... I say ban all american exchange student programs. For the safety of Europe. They are a virus just waiting to massacre... a mack-10 under their Tupac t-shirt.

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    This was only waiting to happen.


    The Post office robbers wore burqas


    The two robbers who attacked this morning the Athis-Mons (Essonne) Post office are not really gone unnoticed. Instead of the usual scarves hoods and other, they chose to wear burqas and Nike sneakers. They fled with a booty of about 4500 euros, it was about 10 30 pm when two men broke into the office, located in the sensitive area of Noyer-Renard where twenty customers were waiting. By threatening staff with a handgun, they managed to get back an amount of approximately EUR 4500. Ten minutes later they emerged and fled on foot toward the nearby parking. The investigation was entrusted to the antenna Evry judicial police.

    Les braqueurs de la Poste portaient la burqa

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    Dunno, but perhaps the French are trying to prevent something like this from happening in their country...



    Bagdad, Iraq - Feb 1st, 2010... Burqa clad women detonates suicide bomb, killing 54 and wounding 122...

    The bombing was the first major strike this year against pilgrims making their way to the southern city of Karbala to mark a Shiite holy day. It came as security official warned of a possible increase in attacks by insurgents using new tactics to bypass bomb-detection methods.

    The bombing raises fears of an escalation of attacks as hundreds of thousands of Shiites head by Friday to the southern holy city of Karbala to mark the end of 40 days of mourning following the anniversary of the death Imam Hussein, a revered Shiite figure.

    The bomber hid the explosives underneath an abaya—a black cloak worn from head to toe by women
    —as she joined a group of pilgrims on the outskirts of Baghdad’s Shiite-dominated neighborhood of Shaab, said Maj. Gen. Qassim al-Moussawi, top military spokesman.



    BURQA-CLAD Iraqi female suicide bomber blows herself up Bare Naked Islam's Weblog

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    Better hope they ban school too.

    Or at the very least the American exchange students.




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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Your central thesis that a burkha is a prequisite or even commonly in use by suicide bombers to conceal bombs is patently absurd. Do you even have any credible statistics or other coroborrating data on the number of suicide bomb attacks by burkha clad terrorists to back this up?
    Insurgent killers dress as women
    7/02/2010

    NARATHIWAT : A soldier was killed and another seriously injured yesterday in a gun attack by insurgents disguised as women.

    Officials believe the insurgents, camouflaged in hijabs, a Muslim woman's head-dress, launched the attack in retaliation against a morning raid on their mountain hideout in which rangers killed one of their comrades.

    The incident occurred in Narathiwat's Yi-ngo district yesterday while an army patrol was passing a grocery store. A witness saw a pickup truck carrying four or five people in hijabs drive by. Two people in the back of the truck, one armed with an M-16 rifle and the other an AK 47, opened fire on the soldiers, who returned fire.

    continues : Insurgent killers dress as women

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    I can't agree with this. Look, if some freak show punk wants to walk around with hairpins thru' his or her face or whatever they are free to do so. I don't think it is legit to 'ban the Burkha' as such.

    What is legit is to regulate the circumstances and places in which it can and can't be worn. Driving, schoolteaching, nursing, passport & ID photoes, places with a 'national security' importance such as airports- forget about it. But if someone wants to join the Freak circus and wander round the streets in one of these things, they have a right to do so.
    Suicide bombers have a variety of targests - anything or everything is a target - how can you tell whats under the burkha?
    So what do you propose, the banning of all bulky outer garments?
    Good idea lets start with those that cover from top of head to tip of toe? - get real and get into a true perspective. or does your wife wear this ?
    Your central thesis that a burkha is a prequisite or even commonly in use by suicide bombers to conceal bombs is patently absurd. Do you even have any credible statistics or other coroborrating data on the number of suicide bomb attacks by burkha clad terrorists to back this up?

    Therefore any notion that by banning the burkha you'll somehow reduce or mitigate suicide bombings is equally as ridiculous and absurd. It would be like attempting to prevent suicides by passing a law that depressed gun owners aren't allowed to keep their guns loaded.

    Oh, and what my wife wears is none of your fucking business.

    OOh Touched a nerve have we ? isn't there something at the start of this forum about abuse and nasty comments - What the hell, see if I care , I've been insulted by experts- amateurs like you are of no consequence .
    By the way have you been following the news reports about the increase in female suicide bombers and the forced recruitment of young girls by their families to act as suicide bombers ? - They're such a nice group of religious people! and so peaceful?
    as Confucious said : if enter room and find moslem and Cobra , kill moslem first!

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    Yes to the burka ... ... inside.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaiguy View Post
    OOh Touched a nerve have we ? isn't there something at the start of this forum about abuse and nasty comments - What the hell, see if I care , I've been insulted by experts- amateurs like you are of no consequence .
    You didn't touch a nerve; you made a pointless and irrelevant comment about my wife, nothing whatsoever to do with the thread or the topic, of course I'll tell you to fuck off.

    And if that's your customary way of 'debating' an issue then little wonder you've been insulted. I'd wager "brainless" is a phrase you're well accustomed to hearing.
    By the way have you been following the news reports about the increase in female suicide bombers and the forced recruitment of young girls by their families to act as suicide bombers ? - They're such a nice group of religious people! and so peaceful?
    Link?
    as Confucious said : if enter room and find moslem and Cobra , kill moslem first!
    Hilarious... Well, at least you find it funny I suppose. But of course Confucious said nothing of the sort. He was by all accounts an open-minded, intelligent and thoughtful person.

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    OOh Touched a nerve have we ? isn't there something at the start of this forum about abuse and nasty comments - What the hell, see if I care , I've been insulted by experts- amateurs like you are of no consequence .
    You didn't touch a nerve; you made a pointless and irrelevant comment about my wife, nothing whatsoever to do with the thread or the topic, of course I'll tell you to fuck off.

    And if that's your customary way of 'debating' an issue then little wonder you've been insulted. I'd wager "brainless" is a phrase you're well accustomed to hearing.
    By the way have you been following the news reports about the increase in female suicide bombers and the forced recruitment of young girls by their families to act as suicide bombers ? - They're such a nice group of religious people! and so peaceful?
    Link?
    as Confucious said : if enter room and find moslem and Cobra , kill moslem first!
    Hilarious... Well, at least you find it funny I suppose. But of course Confucious said nothing of the sort. He was by all accounts an open-minded, intelligent and thoughtful person.
    GOTCHA!

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    "Gotcha"? So your whole goal in posting in this thread and on this topic was to somehow 'get' me?

    You need to grow up. I get the distinct impression that you'd be more comfortable posting in crayon.

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    .Hilarious... Well, at least you find it funny I suppose. But of course Confucious said nothing of the sort. He was by all accounts an open-minded, intelligent and thoughtful person..

    He also died hundreds of years before the kiddie fvker was born, Mr ignorant, so of course he did not say it-ignorance is bliss anin't it ANT

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