Denials by the British foriegn secretary that Al Magrabi was relased as quid pro quo over trade deals. Apparently Quaddafi blurted this relvelation out in an interview.
Denials by the British foriegn secretary that Al Magrabi was relased as quid pro quo over trade deals. Apparently Quaddafi blurted this relvelation out in an interview.
No surprise there . . . still, the guy was a stooge for whoever actually did it. It certainly does send out the wrong message . . .Originally Posted by Humbert
British Common Law is based on the application of the same rules in each and every case irespective of race or nationality. Megrahi was entitled under policy and precedent. I am glad the Scots, a proud warrior race, were able to look the mullato in the eye and say "aye the laddies goin free" fair play.
* Also the entire case against him was based on highly circumstantial evidence... The co-accused walked free on appeal and I imagine this poor fellow would have got out in the end; just a pawn in power politics a political prisoner even.
They champion falsehood, support the butcher against the victim, the oppressor against the innocent child. May God mete them the punishment they deserve
No, it doesn't. The length of a life sentence depends on the Tariff imposed by the court. There are three different types of life sentence in the British legal system, only IPP and "Whole Life Term" are "until he dies". The normal life sentence has a tariff of 12 or 15 years, can't remember exactly which right now.
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"Lord Mandelson, the Business Secretary, is also facing questions about his interestsal-Megrahi’s release after it emerged that he had met Saif Gaddafi, the son of the Libyan leader, twice in the past four months.
As al-Megrahi, who is suffering from prostate cancer and has been told he has only three months to live, was being flown home on Friday, Saif Gaddafi apparently told him: "You were on the table in all commercial, oil and gas agreements that we supervised in that period. You were on the table in all British interests when it came to Libya."
Lockerbie release could topple SNP government - Times Online
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Weak-kneed cave-in Brittles giving comfort to terrorists in underhanded deals.
Fukkin kunts.
Don't forget the lavish praise Quaddafi gave the the british royal family for their support for his release.
Just well orchestrated media rekindling the anger of the dumbed down to justify the staged terrorist attacks.
Great timing too!!
Idiots
Hmm, good point. One has to wonder just how dumb the British Government has to be to believe that they'd get away with this one. Way to alienate every single one of your allies, Gordon - hard to believe it's worth whatever concessions Britain might get from Libya. It's quite amusing, in a sad way, to see the reactions from the USA, looks like the UK is now somewhere between North Korea and Iran in the trusted ally stakes.
^ But isn't the judicial system independent from the government? I feel sorry for Brown, especially if he had no say in the judgement, as he the one copping all the flak.
And now there are the usual calls for product boycotts for UK-made products . . . which begs the question as to what exactly they will boycott as the UK produces nothing worth mentioning anymore.
Can't even change names of food (food and the UK - snigger) like the ubiquitous Freedom Fries!
Last edited by panama hat; 24-08-2009 at 01:17 PM.
Fish and Freedom Fries it is then.Originally Posted by panama hat
No worries, I think it's only going to be a boycott of deep fried haggis this time
^ And deep fried Mars Bars in batter
That alliance, in my opinion, isn't worth the paper it's written on.
Those who support the release (in Brittle papers) almost unanimously applaud the Scot jerk-offs for standing up to the bullying Americans.
wtf? Are these people completely absorbed -- is their preoccupation with the US that deep?
They tried the fukker and found him guilty. Americans weren't the only passengers and crew on that airplane. The Brittles chose some shady business deal over the rule of law. Not some tribunal or international or scary American law -- THEIR OWN LAW. Clueless goddamn dimwits.
^ I agree with you . . . but then please tell me, after you've caught up with your mock indignation, that this never happens in the US.
Early release, for any given legal reason.
Humanitarian release.
Political expediency.
Etc etc etc
Go on, have a go at me again, but can you honestly tell me that it doesn't happen in the US
I think the US tends to prefer execution ala McVeigh -- is that what you're hinting at?
This guy didn't rob a gas station.
Reading this thread makes me very depressed about the intelligence of those who post here.
There are two separate issues here. One is the release on compassionate grounds of a man convicted of murder. This was the call of the Scottish government. I note the justice minister just gave a good account of himself in a session of paliament.
The other issue is who actually carried out the Lockerbie bombing. Magrahi appears to have dropped his appeal because of his terminal medical condition. It does seem that if he had to time to appeal he would probably have been released anyway.
Anyone actually interested in the Lockerbie bombing can have their horizons widened by just googling Ahmed Jibril, Monzer al-Kassar, Oliver North.
Or read this
Pan Am 103 Why Did They Die? - TIME
Federal Bureau of Investigation - Press Release
LETTER FROM FBI DIRECTOR ROBERT S. MUELLER, III, TO SCOTTISH MINISTER KENNY MACASKILL
August 21, 2009
The Honorable Kenny MacAskill, MSP
Cabinet Secretary for Justice
Scottish Government
St. Andrew's House
Regent Road
Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom
EH13DG
Dear Mr. Secretary:
Over the years I have been a prosecutor, and recently as the Director of the FBI, I have made it a practice not to comment on the actions of other prosecutors, since only the prosecutor handling the case has all the facts and the law before him in reaching the appropriate decision.
Your decision to release Megrahi causes me to abandon that practice in this case. I do so because I am familiar with the facts, and the law, having been the Assistant Attorney General in charge of the investigation and indictment of Megrahi in 1991. And I do so because I am outraged at your decision, blithely defended on the grounds of "compassion."
Your action in releasing Megrahi is as inexplicable as it is detrimental to the cause of justice. Indeed your action makes a mockery of the rule of law. Your action gives comfort to terrorists around the world who now believe that regardless of the quality of the investigation, the conviction by jury after the defendant is given all due process, and sentence appropriate to the crime, the terrorist will be freed by one man's exercise of "compassion." Your action rewards a terrorist even though he never admitted to his role in this act of mass murder and even though neither he nor the government of Libya ever disclosed the names and roles of others who were responsible.
Your action makes a mockery of the emotions, passions and pathos of all those affected by the Lockerbie tragedy: the medical personnel who first faced the horror of 270 bodies strewn in the fields around Lockerbie, and in the town of Lockerbie itself; the hundreds of volunteers who walked the fields of Lockerbie to retrieve any piece of debris related to the breakup of the plane; the hundreds of FBI agents and Scottish police who undertook an unprecedented global investigation to identify those responsible; the prosecutors who worked for years--in some cases a full career--to see justice done.
But most importantly, your action makes a mockery of the grief of the families who lost their own on December 21, 1988. You could not have spent much time with the families, certainly not as much time as others involved in the investigation and prosecution. You could not have visited the small wooden warehouse where the personal items of those who perished were gathered for identification--the single sneaker belonging to a teenager; the Syracuse sweatshirt never again to be worn by a college student returning home for the holidays; the toys in a suitcase of a businessman looking forward to spending Christmas with his wife and children.
You apparently made this decision without regard to the views of your partners in the investigation and prosecution of those responsible for the Lockerbie tragedy. Although the FBI and Scottish police, and prosecutors in both countries, worked exceptionally closely to hold those responsible accountable, you never once sought our opinion, preferring to keep your own counsel and hiding behind opaque references to "the need for compassion."
You have given the family members of those who died continued grief and frustration. You have given those who sought to assure that the persons responsible would be held accountable the back of your hand. You have given Megrahi a "jubilant welcome" in Tripoli, according to the reporting. Where, I ask, is the justice?
Sincerely yours,
Robert S. Mueller, III
Director
Posted on 22 August 2009 [at] 22:48 GMT
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