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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    the never "was" PALESTINE which of course I concur with
    The English word Pale comes from the Latin word Palus, a stake extended to mean boundary.

    That area along the Mediterranean was inhabited by Philistines...(possibly could they have been called Philistia?)

    Go figure why the map you've attributed to Ptolemy who lived after Jesus died has no Jerusalem or Nazareth...yet has Samaria.

    What happened to the Samarians...the Judeans...the Tiberians...(the Arapaho...the Cherokee...the Nez Perce)...ffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Most Israelis support referendum on two states

    The research also found that 58% of Israeli adults support the idea of “two states for two nations” as the way to solve the conflict. Of Israelis with an opinion on the matter, 87% voiced opposition to “one, binational state” as a solution.

    The poll by Smith Research was commissioned by MK Eitan Broshi (Zionist Union), who has joined a campaign together with left-wing NGOs called “Decision at 50,” advocating for a national referendum on the matter. The “50” in the name represents 50 years since the Six Day War, which will be marked in June.



    Broshi pointed out that “most of the public wants two states for two nations and to preserve a Jewish State, and the vast majority oppose a solution of one, binational state. The Right in Israel is lying to itself when its leadership in practice promotes a binational state through uncontrolled construction in Judea and Samaria, trying to break the Palestinians’ territorial continuity and prevent the future possibility of separating from the Palestinians.”

    This policy, Broshi said, goes against the will of the people, as reflected in the poll he ordered as well as past ones.

    Broshi expressed hope that he could garner a broad consensus around his proposal.

    Among the organizations and figures backing “Decision at 50” are Peace Now, Blue White Future, former Shin Bet chief and current Blue White Future Director Ami Ayalon, former Labor chairman Amram Mitzna, ex-Labor MK Rabbi Michael Melchior, and former prime minister Yitzhak Rabin’s granddaughter Noa Rothman, among others.

    The founders of “Decision at 50” sent a letter to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu calling on him to adopt the referendum proposal for “the most critical decision for the future of Israel...regarding where Israel is heading, and [will] provide guidance to Israeli governments in their policy-making on this crucial matter.”

    Israel currently has a Referendum Law on the books, which has yet to be used. It requires any government that wishes to concede sovereign territory – meaning any part of Israel, including east Jerusalem or the Golan Heights, but not the West Bank – would have to hold a referendum on the agreement.

    “Every day in which our control over the Palestinian territories persists brings us closer to the end of Israel as the democratic state of the Jewish People,” said Ayalon. “Netanyahu sees the disaster ahead, but he is not courageous enough to act.”


    The poll was taken among a representative sample of 500 Israeli adults, Jewish and Arab, and has a 4.5% margin of error.
    Most Israelis support referendum on two states - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post


    Israel calls itself a 'democracy', yet has been illegally occupying, systematically colonising, and brutalising the population of a neighbouring state for near on 50 years- and this 'democratic' Israel refuses to even consult it's own Citizens about the process, and the inevitable outcome?? For shame.
    Hey Sabang you write of democracy , you might check out that your beloved Hamas are 10 years behind schedule having their promised General election .
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Most Israelis support referendum on two states

    The research also found that 58% of Israeli adults support the idea of “two states for two nations” as the way to solve the conflict. Of Israelis with an opinion on the matter, 87% voiced opposition to “one, binational state” as a solution.

    The poll by Smith Research was commissioned by MK Eitan Broshi (Zionist Union), who has joined a campaign together with left-wing NGOs called “Decision at 50,” advocating for a national referendum on the matter. The “50” in the name represents 50 years since the Six Day War, which will be marked in June.



    Broshi pointed out that “most of the public wants two states for two nations and to preserve a Jewish State, and the vast majority oppose a solution of one, binational state. The Right in Israel is lying to itself when its leadership in practice promotes a binational state through uncontrolled construction in Judea and Samaria, trying to break the Palestinians’ territorial continuity and prevent the future possibility of separating from the Palestinians.”

    This policy, Broshi said, goes against the will of the people, as reflected in the poll he ordered as well as past ones.

    Broshi expressed hope that he could garner a broad consensus around his proposal.

    Among the organizations and figures backing “Decision at 50” are Peace Now, Blue White Future, former Shin Bet chief and current Blue White Future Director Ami Ayalon, former Labor chairman Amram Mitzna, ex-Labor MK Rabbi Michael Melchior, and former prime minister Yitzhak Rabin’s granddaughter Noa Rothman, among others.

    The founders of “Decision at 50” sent a letter to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu calling on him to adopt the referendum proposal for “the most critical decision for the future of Israel...regarding where Israel is heading, and [will] provide guidance to Israeli governments in their policy-making on this crucial matter.”

    Israel currently has a Referendum Law on the books, which has yet to be used. It requires any government that wishes to concede sovereign territory – meaning any part of Israel, including east Jerusalem or the Golan Heights, but not the West Bank – would have to hold a referendum on the agreement.

    “Every day in which our control over the Palestinian territories persists brings us closer to the end of Israel as the democratic state of the Jewish People,” said Ayalon. “Netanyahu sees the disaster ahead, but he is not courageous enough to act.”


    The poll was taken among a representative sample of 500 Israeli adults, Jewish and Arab, and has a 4.5% margin of error.
    Most Israelis support referendum on two states - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post


    Israel calls itself a 'democracy', yet has been illegally occupying, systematically colonising, and brutalising the population of a neighbouring state for near on 50 years- and this 'democratic' Israel refuses to even consult it's own Citizens about the process, and the inevitable outcome?? For shame.
    "Give peace a chance."
    Terrific pic taken from the 1993 Oslo Accords wirh Rabin & Arafat shaking hands for Slick Willy's photo op...23 years ago. What happened ? Truly a shame nothing came of it.

    By the way that poll was taken from a supposed sampling of 500 without any exact demographic or geographic marking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Most Israelis support referendum on two states

    The research also found that 58% of Israeli adults support the idea of “two states for two nations” as the way to solve the conflict. Of Israelis with an opinion on the matter, 87% voiced opposition to “one, binational state” as a solution.

    The poll by Smith Research was commissioned by MK Eitan Broshi (Zionist Union), who has joined a campaign together with left-wing NGOs called “Decision at 50,” advocating for a national referendum on the matter. The “50” in the name represents 50 years since the Six Day War, which will be marked in June.



    Broshi pointed out that “most of the public wants two states for two nations and to preserve a Jewish State, and the vast majority oppose a solution of one, binational state. The Right in Israel is lying to itself when its leadership in practice promotes a binational state through uncontrolled construction in Judea and Samaria, trying to break the Palestinians’ territorial continuity and prevent the future possibility of separating from the Palestinians.”

    This policy, Broshi said, goes against the will of the people, as reflected in the poll he ordered as well as past ones.

    Broshi expressed hope that he could garner a broad consensus around his proposal.

    Among the organizations and figures backing “Decision at 50” are Peace Now, Blue White Future, former Shin Bet chief and current Blue White Future Director Ami Ayalon, former Labor chairman Amram Mitzna, ex-Labor MK Rabbi Michael Melchior, and former prime minister Yitzhak Rabin’s granddaughter Noa Rothman, among others.

    The founders of “Decision at 50” sent a letter to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu calling on him to adopt the referendum proposal for “the most critical decision for the future of Israel...regarding where Israel is heading, and [will] provide guidance to Israeli governments in their policy-making on this crucial matter.”

    Israel currently has a Referendum Law on the books, which has yet to be used. It requires any government that wishes to concede sovereign territory – meaning any part of Israel, including east Jerusalem or the Golan Heights, but not the West Bank – would have to hold a referendum on the agreement.

    “Every day in which our control over the Palestinian territories persists brings us closer to the end of Israel as the democratic state of the Jewish People,” said Ayalon. “Netanyahu sees the disaster ahead, but he is not courageous enough to act.”


    The poll was taken among a representative sample of 500 Israeli adults, Jewish and Arab, and has a 4.5% margin of error.
    Most Israelis support referendum on two states - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post


    Israel calls itself a 'democracy', yet has been illegally occupying, systematically colonising, and brutalising the population of a neighbouring state for near on 50 years- and this 'democratic' Israel refuses to even consult it's own Citizens about the process, and the inevitable outcome?? For shame.
    "Give peace a chance."
    Terrific pic taken from the 1993 Oslo Accords wirh Rabin & Arafat shaking hands for Slick Willy's photo op...23 years ago. What happened ? Truly a shame nothing came of it.

    By the way that poll was taken from a supposed sampling of 500 without any exact demographic or geographic marking.
    Very likely cos Fattah's Arafat could not speak for Hamas as they was hardly bosom pals which later turned into a civil war between them later on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah%...Hamas_conflict

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