Thread: Radical Islamists 'facing ban on working with children'

Banning radical Islamists from working unsupervised with children could be one measure included in a new government anti-extremism strategy, reports say.

The Telegraph says a leaked Home Office document also suggests Sharia courts and councils are areas of concern.

Job centre staff may also be told to identify vulnerable claimants who could become targets for radicalisation.

Education Secretary Nicky Morgan said she was "concerned about what might be taught in some of our schools".
The BBC understands the document has yet to be signed off by the coalition.

'Fundamental British values'
Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said the government was "increasingly aware" of the need to tackle extremists at home who "give succour to" terrorists.

"It isn't just those who break the law by committing acts of violence," he told the BBC's Andrew Marr show.

The new government strategy on tackling extremism has been working its way through Whitehall for some time.

The document reportedly proposes a number of new measures, including tightening the rules on citizenship to make sure new residents embrace "British values".

It says the government needs to be "more assertive" in challenging extremists who oppose democratic values.

Speaking to the Murnaghan programme on Sky News, Mrs Morgan said she would not comment on leaked documents but said messages young people receive in and out of school were important, and there were concerns about the speakers some schools had invited in.

She added: "I think as education secretary, it would be right for me to say that I am, of course, concerned about what might be taught in some of our schools.

"And we have since last year required all schools to actively promote these fundamental British values, so that our education system is opening up young minds, it's not closing them down."

'Mainstream voices'
Labour shadow justice secretary Sadiq Khan said plans to ban radical Islamists from working unsupervised with children made "perfect sense".

He said the idea of an allegiance to British values was a good thing, but there were some people in the UK who did not understand such rights and responsibilities.

The Sunday Telegraph quotes the document as saying: "In the past, there has been a risk that the government sends an ambivalent and dangerous message - that it doesn't really matter if you don't believe in democracy.

If the cops aren't there, and that relationship has not been built, we won't get the intelligence”

"We need to stand up and be more assertive in promoting our values and challenging the extremists who fundamentally oppose them.

"This will include explaining our foreign policy [and] promoting mainstream voices supporting the quiet majority in all communities who oppose extremism."

The leaked document is also said to claim the Trojan Horse affair - which looked at allegations hard-line Muslims were trying to gain control of schools in Birmingham - was "not an isolated example of schools where extreme views became prevalent".

It says that universities, charities and local councils could be vulnerable to "entryism", with extremists infiltrating organisations intending to promote their own views.

The new strategy would reportedly also call for an independent review into Sharia courts, which operate under Islamic religious law.

It states there have been "troubling reports that in some areas women have suffered from the way these councils work", the newspaper said.

Police cuts warning
The proposed measures could be introduced immediately if the coalition parties approve it before the election, says BBC political correspondent Ben Wright.

The document's emergence comes in the wake of three British schoolgirls travelling to Syria, apparently to join Islamic State, and IS fighter "Jihadi John" being identified as Mohammed Emwazi, a UK citizen who was educated in west London.

Meanwhile, the retiring president of the Association of Chief Police Officers has warned that further cuts to policing in Britain could leave forces without the resources to protect the public from threats including terrorism.

Sir Hugh Orde told the Observer newspaper that taking police off the streets was a clear risk in the fight against extremism.

He said: "The critical element, it seems to me, with dealing with people who will start to behave differently in their communities is the confidence in that community to speak to the local cops.

"If the cops aren't there, and that relationship has not been built, we won't get the intelligence."

BBC News - Radical Islamists 'facing ban on working with children'

Originally Posted by ENT

The document reportedly proposes a number of new measures, including tightening the rules on citizenship to make sure new residents embrace "British values".

Contemptibly laughable....that'll sort it out:

"Hey, Rag head, here's a piece of paper offering guidance on becoiming an infidel Brit...do read carefully and heed or we shall be ever so slightly miffed" toodle pip and tally ho!

cc. ISIS...they'll need a copy to ensure their compliance.

Job done, sorted!

norman tebbit said that people who come to live in england should support the english cricket team.


[QUOTE="ENT"] tightening the rules on citizenship to make sure new residents embrace "British values".

these people are muslim first so he'll have a problem there.

check out andrew neil's interview with CAGE spokesperson on rt.com today
'sharia law isn't practiced'. bla bla.

Originally Posted by ENT

a leaked Home Office document also suggests Sharia courts and councils are areas of concern.

That's an understatement. How dare any religion in a modern secular society suggest that its rules should take precedence over the democratically agreed laws of the land. Should be grounds for criminalisation.

Meanwhile unlike the West, Islamic State has banned faggots from working with children...

Guess there's a little bit of good even in the worst things

^Surely they would have banned homosexuality altogether?

The koran is pretty unequivocal on tradesman's tomfoolery

check out andrew neil's interview with CAGE spokesperson on rt.com today
'sharia law isn't practiced'. bla bla.[/QUOTE]

just did, and had to switch off after a short while of listening to that twat,,,defending jihadi john, because "he's not understood in a Brit society that doesn't understand him, so felt left out" aahh poor diddums...

Fairy nuff...better saw some people's heads off then

Defending the killer of Lee Rigby, and so on...this kunt roams free in london and is the head of CAGE FFS!

Why give him band width, moreover why let him fukin live here, or let him live even?

We must harden the fuk up soon or this country is dead

That's enough for me this day

Originally Posted by blue

Meanwhile unlike the West, Islamic State has banned faggots from working with children...

Guess there's a little bit of good even in the worst things

ISIS chuck gays off the top of buildings !

And film it !

Originally Posted by Looper

^Surely they would have banned homosexuality altogether?

The koran is pretty unequivocal on tradesman's tomfoolery

I think most religions are aren't they.

Arabs are the biggest hypocrites out there when it comes to arse banditry...Women are ok to marry and make children with, but there's nothing like the real thing.

Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog

Originally Posted by blue

Meanwhile unlike the West, Islamic State has banned faggots from working with children...

Guess there's a little bit of good even in the worst things

ISIS chuck gays off the top of buildings !

And film it !

oh dear..
I don't agree with that ,
it's dangerous - years worth of super compacted excrement could exploded
on impact and spread Aids and gayness everywhere...

Got a joke for you, Blue

Q. How do you make a gay have sex with a woman?

A: Shit in her c*u*n*t

(Credit where it's due - its actually a Damien Hirst gag)

Originally Posted by blue

Meanwhile unlike the West, Islamic State has banned faggots from working with children...

Saying that though, most of the children are now either married or toting AK-47's

Originally Posted by pompeysbroke

and had to switch off after a short while

Originally Posted by pompeysbroke

Why give him band width, moreover why let him fukin live here, or let him live even?

yea the 1st bit of him walking was a bore but the interview following it is priceless.

agree on second point but i guess they have to put it out there.

only with debating and reason can we get an enlightened thought from these ancient folk.

the jew,christian, and muslim are all cut from the same cloth and now we are at each others throats living side by side.

drop out, tune in and bury all this propaganda.
maybe when we realise that there ain't no after-life as promised by the folk on the hill.
we have to do it alone. it's the only way

Originally Posted by Looper

Originally Posted by ENT

a leaked Home Office document also suggests Sharia courts and councils are areas of concern.

That's an understatement. How dare any religion in a modern secular society suggest that its rules should take precedence over the democratically agreed laws of the land. Should be grounds for criminalisation.

Of course it is, but the ragheads got more oil than us.