1500 Year Old Bible Claims Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified – Vatican In Awe Read more

**dirk diggler** · 04-05-2014, 03:36 PM

Haha, what a bummer.

Much to the dismay of the Vatican, an approx. 1500-2000 year old bible was found in Turkey, in the Ethnography Museum of Ankara.

Discovered and kept secret in the year 2000, the book contains the Gospel of Barnabas – a disciple of Christ – which shows that Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the son of God, but a Prophet. The book also calls Apostle Paul “The Impostor”. The book also claims that Jesus ascended to heaven alive, and that Judas Iscariot was crucified in his place.
A report by The National Turk says that the Bible was seized from a gang of smugglers in a Mediterranean-area operation. The report states the gang was charged with smuggling antiquities, illegal excavations, and the possession of explosives. The books itself is valued as high as 40 Million Turkish Liras (approx. 28 mil. Dollars). Man, where is the Thieves Guild, when you need them?

Authenticity

According to reports, experts and religious authorities in Tehram insist that the book is original. The book itself is written with gold lettering, onto loosely-tied leather in Aramaic, the language of Jesus Christ.
The text maintains a vision similar to Islam, contradicting the New Testament’s teachings of Christianity. Jesus also foresees the coming of the Prophet Muhammad, who would found Islam 700 years later.
It is believed that, during the Council of Nicea, the Catholic Church hand-picked the gospels that form the Bible as we know it today; omitting the Gospel of Barnabas (among many others) in favor of the four canonical gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Many biblical texts have begun to surface over time, including those of the Dead Sea and Gnostic Gospels; but this book especially, seems to worry the Vatican.

The Catholic Church wants in

What does this mean to Christian-derived religions and their followers? Quite a tight spot. The Vatican has asked Turkish authorities to let them examine the contents of the book within the Church. Now that the book has been found, will they come to accept the it and its evidence? Will they deny it altogether? Call it a “Muslim lie”, as did the “Truth” Magazine, in 2000?
To many, this book is a beacon of hope, that believers soon realize that the object of their adoration is arbitrary; and that all text, especially religious text, is subject to interpretation.
What does this mean to atheists/agnostics/secular thinkers? Is the text real? Fake? Does it matter? Hopefully, this news inspires the religious to ask questions, instead of pointing fingers or believing anything blindly.
Please, don’t go poking fun or tossing around the “I told you so!”s. The biggest danger of faith is when people believe what they want to believe, defending against any and all evidence; especially when that evidence revolutionizes their foundation from the ground up. And the biggest culprit to that danger is the ego trap: rejecting/criticizing others, for being unlike you.
For centuries, the “defense” of blind faith has driven nations to war, violence, discrimination, slavery and to become the society of automatons that we are today; and for just as long, it has been justified with lies. If you know better, act like it.

This article originally appeared on Sons on the Pyre
National Turk Report

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**Exit Strategy** · 04-05-2014, 03:45 PM

Who cares
Sorry.

**Thormaturge** · 04-05-2014, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

Discovered and kept secret in the year 2000, the book contains the Gospel of Barnabas – a disciple of Christ – which shows that Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the son of God, but a Prophet.

The Muslims must be rolling about with laughter.

Rather buggers the Christian church.

**dirk diggler** · 04-05-2014, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Who cares
Sorry.

You cared enough to open it, maybe read some or all of it and then comment. I feel you may be religiously confused. Best to know the facts...

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

The Muslims must be rolling about with laughter.

Rather buggers the Christian church.

Sure does. I look forward to hearing their reply to this.

Being an Athiest, I do find it rather amusing.

**Bettyboo** · 04-05-2014, 04:00 PM

Shows that Jesus was a man, not the son of "God", and it's all a load of conventional stories formulated for personal/business benefit; nothing new there...

**Exit Strategy** · 04-05-2014, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

You cared enough to open it, maybe read some or all of it and then comment

Good point. But I have inventive mind, scientific I would like to think. So this God (I am spelling it capital case to respect your beliefs) business is basically a scam to control the hoi polloi. But it is easy to buy into, believing that something will make your life better in the end. But that does not happen. Your life will be what you make of it.

**Davis Knowlton** · 04-05-2014, 04:12 PM

Cool. I hope it explains the part about baby chicks and chocolate bunnies for Easter. That, and the groundhog rolling the stone away from the grave to see if Winter's over, has always confused me a bit.

If it also comments on the water into wine thing there could be some real money in that..........

**baldrick** · 04-05-2014, 04:16 PM

does he finally admit to buggering the goat ?

**Necron99** · 04-05-2014, 04:20 PM

In the grand scheme it means nothing.
Most of the bible was written well after the fact and this is accepted.
It is also accepted that the Council of Nicaea decided which of all the various religious writings should be in the bible and which were heretical.
The existence of this document changes nothing. The Church considered it heretical then and would still do so today.

**Butterfly** · 04-05-2014, 04:24 PM

it doesn't really matter, does it ? both books are work of fiction and they are there to enslave and entertain the gallery,

The role of the Church is to create structure for society, it can only be based on myths and fairy tales, that's the only way people can believe

**Rural Surin** · 04-05-2014, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Shows that Jesus was a man, not the son of "God", and it's all a load of conventional stories formulated for personal/business benefit; nothing new there...

The lost Jesus years....
Journeyed towards India, absorbing Buddhism/Hinduism - never heard from again.

**Exit Strategy** · 04-05-2014, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Necron99

accepted that the Council of Nicaea

Who? Are they behind Tesco parking lot?

Originally Posted by Necron99

The Church considered it heretical

Oh dear. Should I care.

I don't want to sound negative, but your religious kind do so much harm I must speak up. Especially your pope stuff, anti birth control and abortion, you cause so much suffering and problems down the line. World would be much better place without religion... listen to John Lennon, "only sky above us".

**thailazer** · 04-05-2014, 04:27 PM

Much Ado About Nothing

**Rural Surin** · 04-05-2014, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

it doesn't really matter, does it ? both books are work of fiction and they are there to enslave and entertain the gallery,

The role of the Church is to create structure for society, it can only be based on myths and fairy tales, that's the only way people can believe

....as most [all] religious or spiritual philosophic entries might be regarded.
A nexus of reality, fiction, faery tales, twisted myths/legends, etc.

Created solely for control and suppression.
Political, less spiritual.

**Necron99** · 04-05-2014, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by Butterfly

it doesn't really matter, does it ? both books are work of fiction and they are there to enslave and entertain the gallery,

The role of the Church is to create structure for society, it can only be based on myths and fairy tales, that's the only way people can believe

....as most [all] religious or spiritual philosophic entries might be regarded.
A nexus of reality, fiction, faery tales, twisted myths/legends, etc.

Created solely for control and suppression.
Political, less spiritual.

Shinto isn't....

**VocalNeal** · 04-05-2014, 04:44 PM

If humans didn't need to believe in something controlling the weather, plague. pestilence etc. no religion would ever get a foothold. Humans created religion, not a fictional being called God.

Mocking or lack of belief is up to the individual. The problem lies with those that believe that only they are correct.

**Butterfly** · 04-05-2014, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

The problem lies with those that believe that only they are correct.

indeed, and trying to force their believes onto others

**Rainfall** · 04-05-2014, 05:04 PM

That's not much of a problem for the catholic church, they don't take the bible literally. It's a different story for the fundamentalist churches of the USA trying to outdo the darkest ages of inquisition. A backwards bunch of morons, and make no mistake, they're the majority of the Americans. Hence their influence in politics.

**Mid** · 04-05-2014, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Necron99

In the grand scheme it means nothing.

Most of the bible was written well after the fact and this is accepted.

It is also accepted that the Council of Nicaea decided which of all the various religious writings should be in the bible and which were heretical.

The existence of this document changes nothing.

The Church considered it heretical then and would still do so today.

Nailed it .

**Exit Strategy** · 04-05-2014, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Rainfall

USA

Originally Posted by Rainfall

backwards bunch of morons

Originally Posted by Rainfall

they're the majority of the Americans

Euro loser hate. It differs from place to place but I myself don't know anyone really religious in US (excluding bible belt, I don't know anyone there anyway), some go to church on Sundays for social reasons. Europeans are more backward and more likely to believe in fairy tales and such. Unicorns actually sound rather nice.

**dirk diggler** · 04-05-2014, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

I don't believe in unicorns.

Too far you heathen.

**Gerbil** · 04-05-2014, 05:28 PM

Well, the mussies have always accepted Jesus as a prophet, not the son of god.....

**Davis Knowlton** · 04-05-2014, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by Rainfall

USA

Originally Posted by Rainfall

backwards bunch of morons

Originally Posted by Rainfall

they're the majority of the Americans

Euro loser hate. It differs from place to place but I myself don't know anyone really religious in US (excluding bible belt, I don't know anyone there anyway), some go to church on Sundays for social reasons. Europeans are more backward and more likely to believe in fairy tales and such. Unicorns actually sound rather nice.

You haven't been posting long enough to know that Rainfall hates America and Americans. Any thread and any post on any subject and he will find a way to insert some totally idiotic, off-topic anti-American comment.

Just ignore him....it's what almost all posters do.

**Exit Strategy** · 04-05-2014, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Just ignore him

I am learning... quickly.

**baldrick** · 04-05-2014, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Gerbil

Well, the mussies have always accepted Jesus as a prophet

and the christians have always accepted jesus to make a profit

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