Thread: Missing April Jones: Search Intensifies

^Don't use computers or phones when drunk, i got form for that................

everyday children die - in accidents or of sickness in hospitals, often after long traumatic, painful treatment...

none gets noticed...

and when something gets "right" in the media, then all are up at the church, with sad faces and "rip"... im not saying, they dont mean it, but its a bit weird...

and then, maybe the same number would protest to have the right of abortion...

I am still having trouble believing that a five year old child could climb into a two door Discovery on her own and then shut the door. The driver can't reach across the cab,it is too wide and those doors are heavy. Was there someone else in the Discovery?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

10 years in a cushy jail with all the latest mod cons then released on parole????

10 yrs. ? for kiddy murder, f*cking hell i know we live in softie UK but i reckon this [at][at][at][at] wont get out over 25 yrs. even if the lads in his jail dont do the right thing and slice him up good.

Yesterday there was a church service for April and Sky TV showed it from start to finish without any commentary.
The Bishop of Caenarvon spoke a brilliant tribute without any notes and the local female vicar was equally impressive.
All this nation needs now is to find and bury April.

Alitongkat.
Some of your comments need sorting.

Don't belittle the people of Machylleth in their grief and shock over what happened to April.
Welsh people are a very kind people in general, and Machylleth is in the heartland of Wales, the level of crime is minimal, almost zero, compared to anywhere else in Britain.

What you saw of the hundreds who silently walked, waited and prayed in respect for April was not just respect for her, but respect for human compassion and a recognition of how trust was betrayed in a culture where honesty is held in high regard. I doubt that half of the people who attended that service even locked their doors before leaving home that day.

This wasn't just a church service, it was a spiritual re-affirmation of Welsh cymdeithais, (fellowship) a bond and a vow to keep on being the community of Welsh people that we are, no matter what has befallen us.

The way the whole district turned out to search for the little girl only confirms their closeness.


As to your other assinine questions and comments, some answers below may suffice.

Mark Bridger knew April Jones' family well, he lived in the house next door to them at one stage, and April often played with his children, the kids would be in and out of each other's houses a lot of the time.

April had been in Bridger's land rover on at least two occasions before, once on a fishing trip that he took April and his children on during the summer, and again two days before April was abducted.
He was not only a neighbour, but a trusted family friend, a local who everybody in the estate knew.
April would have had no fear of him, and would have fearlessly climbed into Bridger's vehicle, just for a ride home from the garages on the other side of the green where she was playing with her friends.

Bridger's behaviour before arrest.
Powys county council confirmed that Mr Bridger attended a parents’ evening at the primary school in Machynlleth, where his own daughter and April are pupils.
April’s parents, Coral and Paul, were reportedly still at the parents’ evening when April, who was playing outside on her bicycle, disappeared.
A source said that at one point Mr Bridger’s Land Rover blocked the one-way road in front of the primary school, preventing another parent from getting away.
Another witness said he saw him driving through the Bryn-y-Gog estate, where April lives, at 6pm on Monday.
“He was driving erratically through Bryn-y-Gog,” said the witness. “He nearly hit my mate at 6pm. I heard other people say he was driving up and down the road.”



April Jones: Mark Bridger was at school parents’ evening - Telegraph

Bridger left that school meeting before April's parents did, then was seen driving erratically around the Bryn y Gog estate.

Another man, a pensioner of about 70yoa, also saw a vehicle cruising around where the kids were playing, so all these little circumstantial details seem to dovetail to indicate Bridger's possible involvement in April's disappearance.

The next day's events became increasingly more bizarre, as Bridger was seen to drive impatiently leaving his home in Ceinws, crashing his gears and later leaving his Landrover at a repair garage, then identified as going to the river with a black bag before being arrested walking along the road between his home and the Landrover.

Can123
Yes, it's possible that seven year old witness or April would have used the word "them" meaning the driver and car, or the driver and his family, not simply indicating more than one person, a Welsh coloquialism. Also the pronunciation around there could easily be 'em" for "him", a common pronunciation of "him" around Aberystwyth.

the video interview with the son
April Jones: Suspect's Son Shocked At Arrest | Orange UK

he was repeatedly touching behind the left (pierced) ear, followed by scratching over his cheek..

Disbelief is often indicated by averted gaze, or by touching the ear or scratching the chin. When a person is not being convinced by what someone is saying, the attention invariably wanders, and the eyes will stare away for an extended period.

Body language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

though, some others say its a lie...

Alitongkat - you are speculating far too much. This is totally unwarranted as you have no idea about the geography of the area nor any knowledge of the people who live there.

I am sure that we are all grateful that the police are conducting the enquiry and not you.

if it was me, the killer would be locked up, nobody else...

Originally Posted by alitongkat

if it was me, the killer would be locked up, nobody else...

He is locked up. The only outstanding issue is the recovery of the little girl's body. I am sure all decent people feel the same and want "closure" for her family.

Originally Posted by crippen

I am still having trouble believing that a five year old child could climb into a two door Discovery on her own and then shut the door. The driver can't reach across the cab,it is too wide and those doors are heavy. Was there someone else in the Discovery?

There appears to be some confusion as to what side of the vehicle she got in at, as his Discovery is left hand drive.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by crippen

I am still having trouble believing that a five year old child could climb into a two door Discovery on her own and then shut the door. The driver can't reach across the cab,it is too wide and those doors are heavy. Was there someone else in the Discovery?

There appears to be some confusion as to what side of the vehicle she got in at, as his Discovery is left hand drive.

No confusion as the reports indicate the evidence supports the fact that the little girl entered the vehicle on the right hand side.

interesting with the car... she was 5... was she used to drive unbelted in a car (with her parents)?

by that age a child would naturally expect to get in special seat/belt...

maybe it was all an accident?

Originally Posted by alitongkat

interesting with the car... she was 5... was she used to drive unbelted in a car (with her parents)?

by that age a child would naturally expect to get in special seat/belt...

maybe it was all an accident?

No, most children over the age of four actually drive the cars in Machynlleth and are not fussy about the seating arrangements. Are you on medication ?

Originally Posted by can123

No confusion as the reports indicate the evidence supports the fact that the little girl entered the vehicle on the right hand side.

It was reported by at least one witness that she got in the drivers side. That would be the left side if she had got in the Discovery.

Dyfed-Powys police said she was seen getting into the driver's side of a light-coloured Land Rover or Ford Connect type vehicle which drove off, apparently with her in it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oc...llingly-police

Her home was yesterday under police guard – after she told detectives how April climbed into the driver's side of the grey or white van before being driven away.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ew-family.html

^ I can understand a 7 year old confusing a land rover and a van.....

But to get it's color completely wrong? Grey/white vs blue?

even if there are a number of witnesses, most get it wrong with the color or the type of the car... from experience it seems, one is always right, but nobody knows who it is...

maybe children are better, as their world description is more in big/small/color, than words for objects? maybe they are same crap or even worse...

but isnt it a bit weird, that bridger all of a sudden wouldnt get the gears in place anymore...?

Originally Posted by English Noodles

It was reported by at least one witness that she got in the drivers side. That would be the left side if she had got in the Discovery.

I don't know what is wrong with you guys but you do not seem to be very bright. The driver's side is ordinarily on the right hand side in the UK. The children who gave evidence can hardly be expected to know the configuration of all the main 4 x 4's driven in the UK and it is perfectly understandable that they should say the little girl entered on the driver's side of the vehicle.

As it happens, their evidence seems to have been crucial in pinpointing Bridger from very early on in the investigation. No conspiracies, no untruths , just innocent little kids saying , honestly, what they thought they saw. It would have been almost dark at the time of her abduction as winter is approaching rapidly here. The sky would have been cloudy and this would have accounted for the imprecise colour. To be fair the kids did a bloody good job.

Originally Posted by alitongkat

but isnt it a bit weird, that bridger all of a sudden wouldnt get the gears in place anymore...?

Perhaps the clutch broke and that is why it ended up in the garage?

Bridger has appeared before the Crown Court and has been remanded in custody until January 11, 2013.