Olympic security in shambles.

[Cujo]

They're either doing an absolute crap job or there's no employment problems in the UK.
What the hell is going on?
This Nick Buckles looks like a sleazy wide boy to me.

G4S boss: Yes, security for Olympics is a humiliating shambles

Humiliating ... Nick Buckles being grilled by MPs
By GRAEME WILSON, Deputy Political Editor
Last Updated: 18th July 2012
BUNGLING G4S bosses admitted yesterday their handling of Olympic security was a “humiliating shambles” — but refused to give up their £57million fee.


The confession came as furious MPs tore into chief executive Nick Buckles over the failure to supply thousands of guards at Games venues — a fiasco highlighted in our map below.

The chart shows sites where police and soldiers have been called in to provide emergency cover after security staff hired by G4S failed to turn up.

Mr Buckles was asked at the Commons home affairs select committee if the Olympics was a humiliating shambles for his firm.

He replied: “I cannot disagree with you.”

The £830,000-a-year boss admitted the reputation of G4S was “in tatters”. Mr Buckles said he regretted signing a £284million contract for 10,400 guards.

But the firm will take a £57million management fee. He said: “We’ve managed the contract and had management on the ground for two years.”


Fiasco ... map of missing guards
Committee chairman Keith Vaz said later: “This has been the most appalling management. They should waive their entire fee.”
So far G4S has only managed to supply 4,200 staff. This is expected to rise to 7,000. But Mr Buckles admitted he could not guarantee they would all turn up and agreed to pay the bill for troops and cops.

Last night it was reported the Ministry of Defence is drawing up plans to call up an extra 2,000 troops — on top of the 3,500 already drafted in — in case G4S fails to meet even its revised target.

Yesterday 30 out of 300 G4S recruits turned up at Box Hill, Surrey, where cycling will take place. Fifteen out of 50 were at the mountain bike venue, Hadleigh Farm, Essex.

Police from nine forces are also plugging gaps.

Clive Chamberlain, of Dorset Police Federation, whose officers will be on duty for the sailing at Weymouth, said: “The Games will be safer with troops and police.”

G4S boss Nick Buckles: OIympics fiasco is ‘humiliating shambles’ | The Sun |News|Politics
Looks like the terrorists are going to have an easy time of it.
Having said that, if I were a terrorist I'd be taking advantage of the huge distraction and drain on resources the Olympics will be to cause havoc elsewhere.

[Kurgen]

They had to change their name from Group 4 Security to G4S because of all the cock ups they made losing prisoners.

I wonder what their new name will be?

[Begbie]

It has emerged that a former Labour Government Minister and former Defence Secretary, is a Director in the firm responsible for the Olympic Games security shambles.

Former Scottish Labour MP, and now a Labour peer, John Reid was recruited by Olympic fiasco company G4S in 2008 when he took up a role as consultant to the controversial security firm. The Scottish Labour politician, who earned the title Baron Reid of Cardowan after stepping down as an MP after Labour lost the 2010 general election, was appointed a consultant to G4S in December 2008 whilst still a Labour MP. Dr Reid, the then MP for Airdrie and Shotts, had held several cabinet posts including Home Secretary and Minister for armed forces, was believed to have been paid £50,000 per year for the part time role, he became G4S director in July 2010.

Three months after recruiting the Labour MP, G4S were controversially awarded a four-year contract to supply private security guards for around 200 MoD and military sites across Britain. The deal, thought to be worth tens of millions of pounds, resulted in criticism from opposition MPs who called it “totally inappropriate”.

G4S had been formed after a merger between security firms Group 4 and Securicor. It has also been reported that Securicor had extensive contracts with the Home Office during Dr Reid’s spell at Whitehall.

At the time of Reid’s appointment with G4S, the firm were already operating in Iraq and Afghanistan after winning a major MoD contract to provide training to British Army units. The former Defence Secretary claimed in 2006 that British Soldiers would complete their term in Afghanistan without a shot being fired.

Former Labour Minister walked through revolving door to Olympic shambles firm G4S

[harrybarracuda]

Terrorism charges against five after London arrests

Three men accused of going to Pakistan for terrorist training, while a man and a woman are charged over terrorist material.

• guardian.co.uk, Thursday 19 July 2012 02.23 BST

Terrorism charges against the five including going to Pakistan for terrorist training and possessing terrorist materials. Photograph: Dominic Lipinski/PA




Five people have been charged with terrorism offences following arrests by the Metropolitan police counter-terrorism command.
Three men from London – including Richard Dart, who appeared in a BBC Three documentary after converting to Islam – were charged on Wednesday night with offences that involved travelling to Pakistan for training in terrorism between July 2010 and July 2012.

Dart, 29, of Broadway, Ealing, Imran Mahmood, 21, of Dabbs Hill Lane, Northolt, and Jahangir Alom, 26, of Abbey Road, Stratford, are charged with preparing for acts of terrorism between 25 July 2010 and 6 July this year.
The three are alleged to have travelled to Pakistan for terrorism training, to have travelled abroad to commit acts of terrorism, and to have advised and counselled the commission of terrorist acts by providing information about travel to Pakistan and terrorism training, and operational security while there.
Dart was featured in a recent BBC documentary My Brother the Islamist, which chronicled the efforts of his filmmaker stepbrother Robb Leech to understand why the former had rejected his family and embraced an uncompromising form of Islam.
A fourth man, Khalid Baqa, 47, of Priory Road, Barking, is charged with three counts of possession of terrorist material and one count of dissemination of terrorist material. According to the charges, Baqa had CDs containing a document entitled 39 Ways to Support and Participate in Jihad, as well as a number of issues of a magazine called Inspire for distribution to others.
A woman, Ruksana Begum, 22, of Provost Estate, Islington, is charged with possession of a digital memory card containing a document likely to be of use to a terrorist
All five will appear at Westminster magistrates court on Thursday.

[Cujo]

Seven terror arrests after
'guns found in car'
Vehicle stopped on
M1 in South Yorkshire

Arrests ... seven people nabbed on suspicion of terror offences
Last Updated: 07th July 2012
SEVEN men have been arrested on suspicion of terror offences after firearms and other weapons were found “hidden” in a car, police said today.
Related Stories

Five will face terror charges
A WELL-known Muslim convert is one of three men who have been charged by cops

West Midlands Police said one man from West Yorkshire and six from the West Midlands are being questioned on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism following a series of arrests this week.

Police said the contents of the car were undergoing forensic analysis and the suspects’ homes had been searched.

Detectives have been given extra time to question the three men arrested on Tuesday, after the initial 48-hour detention period ran out. They now have until next Tuesday morning to charge or release the men, or apply for a further warrant.

All seven men are being held in the West Midlands.

A spokesman said: “The arrests followed a routine stop of a vehicle by police on the M1 motorway in South Yorkshire on Saturday (June 30).

“The car was impounded on suspicion of having no insurance.

“Firearms, offensive weapons and other material were later found hidden inside, prompting police to take action to trace and arrest the driver, passenger and others suspected of being involved.”


Car stopped ... M1 in South Yorkshire
Police said three men aged 23, 26 and 27 from Sparkhill, Birmingham, were arrested on Tuesday morning.
Three more suspects, a 22-year-old from Alum Rock, Birmingham, a 24-year-old from the Moseley area of the city, and a 22-year-old from Smethwick, West Midlands, were arrested on Wednesday evening.

A 43-year old man from Kirklees, West Yorkshire, was detained yesterday.

Detective Chief Superintendent Kenny Bell, head of the West Midlands Counter Terrorism Unit, said: “As soon as the items were discovered in the impounded vehicle, our priority was to protect the public by pursuing and arresting those we believed to be involved.”

Seven men are held on suspicion of terror offences | The Sun |News
It seems the muzzies are dead set on something.
There will be BIG plans for this.
I think all these little teams they're catching are just distractions or mavericks.

[Panty Hamster]

The 1972 Munich Games are best know for events that occurred off the fields. It wouldn't be too difficult to pull off again considering the clueless numpties pretending to provide security. Forty years from now we could well be discussing the soup-sandwich that was the '12 London Games.

[Jesus Jones]

Another false flag scenario. Such a great stage for it too!

[Cujo]

Another false flag scenario. Such a great stage for it too!

Fuck me there are some idiots around.
The muslims are innocent victims, they would never do anything violent, it's always our own governments doing it to us.

[Jesus Jones]

^ Brain dead fucker

Why do they do this? Is it because they want us all to be like them, Muslims.

Stupid arrogant fool you are and not worth the keystrokes of my keyboard!

[rawlins]

It is a joke that they can't get enough people to cover the jobs. There are 3 million unemployed in the UK - should get some of the lazy fuckers to do some work when it is required.

This G4S lot are taking the piss if they are holding money and not providing what they signed up for.

[Cujo]

^ Brain dead fucker

Why do they do this? Is it because they want us all to be like them, Muslims.

Amongst other things yes, they want to tear down civilized society and replace it with a barbaric Islamic society.

[rawlins]

^ Not all islamic society is barbaric.

[Cujo]

^ Not all islamic society is barbaric.

There are too many facets of it that are barbaric to civilized society.

[Cujo]

^ Brain dead fucker

Stupid arrogant fool you are and not worth the keystrokes of my keyboard!

You're a Muslim then I take it.

[Butterfly]

This Nick Buckles looks like a sleazy wide boy to me.

he looks so British, what else, of course he is sleazy

they probably couldn't get enough funding for their discretionary accounts and therefore have suspended hiring taking the British government hostage

jesus, England is a fucking mess, you would be better off under EU supervision or an actual EU government

[harrybarracuda]

He's got a very bouffant hairstyle, very Claude Francois if you ask me (i.e. a poof).

[Lostandfound]

The point about all this is that any idiot can be trained within an hour or two to search bags and man scanners

Like everything else in the uk the need to ensure compliance with myriad regulation as well as ensure cultural sensitivities be respected means the training role is generally left to pedant consultant types who couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery

By abrogating Responsibility to the army - it can be left to the only organization in the whole uk that can get away with it's employees saying "you need to open yer bag love or you ain't coming in" without facing a harassment, bullying, homophobic or racist assault charge

[Cujo]

The point about all this is that any idiot can be trained within an hour or two to search bags and man scanners

Like everything else in the uk the need to ensure compliance with myriad regulation as well as ensure cultural sensitivities be respected means the training role is generally left to pedant consultant types who couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery

By abrogating Responsibility to the army - it can be left to the only organization in the whole uk that can get away with it's employees saying "you need to open yer bag love or you ain't coming in" without facing a harassment, bullying, homophobic or racist assault charge

So you're saying it's good that the company contractually obliged and entrusted to provide the essential service of security at the Olympic games, proves, at the 11th hour, incapable of doing so and so the army must be called in to fill the gap.

[larvidchr]

^^
Quote "The point about all this is that any idiot can be trained within an hour or two to search bags and man scanners"


Unfortunately that is not the case, it takes years of experience to become good at anti terror, crime and security screening, those hired in people will catch the odd bottle of booze or strike it lucky with a really dumbass terrorist, but mainly they'll be an nuisance to people with nothing to hide.

Any trained targets who might try to beat the system is much more difficult to spot, it takes a lot of experience to see the unusual, and isolate the sometimes invisible to an untrained eye very subtle signals that something might not be right, so if the security is not top notch they will sail through.

The job of comprehensively securing this whole event is extremely difficult, if not impossible to tell the truth, so if someone have bad ideas lets hope some luck is deposited on the good guys side.

[aging one]

^ He as to be joking Koojo, or else is a world champion buck passer.

lost, it sounds like Thailand during the floods.

[Lostandfound]

^^
Quote "The point about all this is that any idiot can be trained within an hour or two to search bags and man scanners"


Unfortunately that is not the case, it takes years of experience to become good at anti terror, crime and security screening, those hired in people will catch the odd bottle of booze or strike it lucky with a really dumbass terrorist, but mainly they'll be an nuisance to people with nothing to hide.


The job of comprehensively securing this whole event is extremely difficult, if not impossible to tell the truth, so if someone have bad ideas lets hope some luck is deposited on the good guys side.

And no one of that calibre is likely to be working for G4S for the shit wages they pay, on a temporary contract too.

The best that could be hoped for would be a high visible presence and a few highly trained specialists keeping tabs.

[Lostandfound]

The point about all this is that any idiot can be trained within an hour or two to search bags and man scanners

Like everything else in the uk the need to ensure compliance with myriad regulation as well as ensure cultural sensitivities be respected means the training role is generally left to pedant consultant types who couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery

By abrogating Responsibility to the army - it can be left to the only organization in the whole uk that can get away with it's employees saying "you need to open yer bag love or you ain't coming in" without facing a harassment, bullying, homophobic or racist assault charge

So you're saying it's good that the company contractually obliged and entrusted to provide the essential service of security at the Olympic games, proves, at the 11th hour, incapable of doing so and so the army must be called in to fill the gap.

That sums it up quite well

[benbaaa]

This is yet another example showing the fiction that private companies are always better at what they do than the public sector. This particular lie has been peddled by politicians of all stripes for decades now, and I think people are finally getting fed up with it. The idea that private companies, out to make the most money they can in the short term, can effectively take over security, health care, infrastructure and a host of other jobs which were once and properly the preserve of governments, is bullshit. Pure and simple. They do a worse job, and it costs us more, while they get rich.

[Panty Hamster]

Window-licking soldiers with no training provided, at this stage, nothing more than targets. What a wonderful world in which we live.

Let me amend that, a few dead soldiers provide public outrage, when they're slaughtered. Which will amount to a few harshly worded proclamations and a couple diplomats sent home.

Victory!

Britain is an absolute toothless tiger. Even Thailand has a carrier. Brits share time with the Frogs. Send your submarine sulking off the offending coast. Then what? You've already proven you don't have the balls to intimidate your Falklands fantasy.

You can't stop a motivated cell of religious-freaky zealots, and admit this much, they exist in every city. Good luck.

[Butterfly]

The idea that private companies, out to make the most money they can in the short term, can effectively take over security, health care, infrastructure and a host of other jobs which were once and properly the preserve of governments, is bullshit. Pure and simple. They do a worse job, and it costs us more, while they get rich.

dude, didn't you get the memo ?