What Would You Have Done?

**Whiteshiva** · 14-05-2008, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Texpat

When the first instinct of anyone is to fire fists, something's seriously wrong.

If someone is incapable of measuring a personal, appropriate response to a perceived threat, he/she should be removed from society as a threat.

I'd say the rogue, gallant warrior was a far greater threat than the retard.

I agree. Let's say this metally handicapped individual had the intellectual capacity of a 5 year old (a concervative estimate, as a 5 year old would probably understand the hostility directed at him).

Now what would you do if a five year old peeked up the skirt of a little girl? Bang his head against the window and then beat the crap out of him? I am sure the mother and the girl felt unfomfortable by the situation, but you are basically dealing with an individual who does not comprehend the implications of what he is doing.

The correct response would have been to alert the bus driver, who would have arranged for the police to come and pick the guy up. Then the mother & child, the two violent retards and the rest of the passengers would have been able to continue their journey.......

**kingwilly** · 14-05-2008, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Whiteshiva

correct response would have been to alert the bus driver, who would have arranged for the police to come and pick the guy up. Then the mother & child, the two violent retards

exactly, in fact the violent retard should have been taken with the police also

**chinthee** · 14-05-2008, 11:36 AM

The correct thing to do in this case is remove the mother and child immediately from the retard's presence, then alert the bus driver as indicated and throw him off.

As far as Shitman's response, it was correct. Shitman recognized the boy was retarded and restraining someone like this is always the best action rather than administering a beating. Actually, shitman was restraining his mate which was correct.

Yes, with a hothead mate like that shitman, you should rethink being anywhere in public with him. Next head through the window could be your own.

**The Gentleman Scamp** · 14-05-2008, 11:47 AM

I would have given the mother a slap and told her to pull herself together.

If she was any sort of a woman she would have slapped the retard and moved to another part of the bus or got off instead of causing hysteria, pandamonium and discomfort.

**kingwilly** · 14-05-2008, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

If she was any sort of a woman she would have slapped the retard and moved to another part of the bus or got off instead of causing hysteria, pandamonium and discomfort.

yes, very good, it is the victims fault.

**The Gentleman Scamp** · 14-05-2008, 12:41 PM

The mother was the victim?

I would say the passengers on the bus were the victims, having to witness a near beating and the catawalling of the mother because some spastic with a mental age the same as her daughters lifted up her kids skirt... It's not like he attempted a nosh is it.

She acted irrationally, and since when has irrational action or thought come to any good?

**Gerbil** · 14-05-2008, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by CharleyFarley

If two nutters are allowed to reproduce, I wonder if the result is a sure fire baby nutter?

I think we only have to look at the inhabitants of MKP to get the answer to that one.

**EmperorTud** · 14-05-2008, 03:17 PM

Those posters advocating physical violence against handicapped people would have loved Germany in the 30's.

**Dalton** · 14-05-2008, 03:48 PM

I wonder what the hell KW was doing on that bus.....Who let him out of his cage.....

**Looper** · 14-05-2008, 04:07 PM

I sometimes feel like it is hazardous to try and offer what you believe is a rational opinion on situations like this due to the kind of hysterical reactions the subject evokes.

Sounds to me like the spacker needs to be in care and not wandering around off the leash. Not his fault he is a spacker though.

**Looper** · 14-05-2008, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by CharleyFarley

sure fire baby nutter

good name for a band

**meow** · 14-05-2008, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Those posters advocating physical violence against handicapped people would have loved Germany in the 30's.

Lol, Zeig HEil !

bkkandrew · 14-05-2008, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Loombucket

I had a brief stint working in a mental home. It was a very depressing place, patients used to run away all the time. After a while, I started seeing things from their point of view.

...And then you moved to Thailand.......!

**friscofrankie** · 14-05-2008, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by November Rain

As it stands, the guy has had half a beating, probably doesn't know why, and no-one has been informed of his little fetish, so he'll be allowed out unaccompanied again & may very well do it again

Agree with this point completely. From your description it's obvious the guy need supervision and help. Second-guessing your mates actions I'd say he took some frustrations out on someone that was in need of help not a thrashing. It's so easy to pound someone obviously different and a bit 'odd' then it is to control the situation with a cool head and some understanding. I'm sure the six year old wold have been slightly less traumatized by a less than dramatic reaction to the act as well.

Originally Posted by meow

Are you for real !? I don't agree hitting the obviously mentally unstable person was the right course of action, but to say that a potential pedophile is more of a threat than somebody with a bit of a hot temper is insane!

Are You? potential pedophile?? A severely handicapped individual that would have probably looked up a matrons dress or some old Scotsman's kilt is what this sounds like. Again a calm adult taking the situation in hand should have been able to control it with out beating some poor idiots head in.

Without being there only reading the description in the OP I'd say the mate over-reacted and took an opportunity to act the bully. Depending on mood it's not such an unusual thing for some one to do. Still I can't help thinking the child and the perpetrator would have been better served with less dramatic measures taken.

**justwingit** · 14-05-2008, 07:03 PM

i dont agree with fists first but what were all the other people on the bus doing, sitting there ignoring it all thinking to themselves "not my problem"

**Whiteshiva** · 14-05-2008, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by justwingit

i dont agree with fists first but what were all the other people on the bus doing, sitting there ignoring it all thinking to themselves "not my problem"

My guess is that they were afraid of the violent retards......

**DJ Pat** · 14-05-2008, 08:41 PM

I would have disabled him a bit more but then again it's noit right, what can you do?

**Jarvis** · 14-05-2008, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Shitman

I was on a bus with a friend today.

Fookin 192 used to do my head in........191 as well

**Jarvis** · 14-05-2008, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

Sorry. I just got back from Korea and ended up on a bus in Manchester

Weird fok

**hooter** · 15-05-2008, 01:27 AM

My response to this dilema would have been grab the retard by the scruff of the neck and launch him off the bus.

Driver STOP and I would have booted him off.

End of story.

**Northern Scum** · 15-05-2008, 01:38 AM

^

That's exactly what I did.

For all those giving it all that 'you should have told the bus driver & you're mate's the retard for hitting him' shit - you don't know what you're talking about. Bus drivers aren't some sort of well-regarded member of society who's going to get in the way of a fight in Manchester.

They sit behing protective screens & stay there.

Asking a bus driver for help in a violent situation is about the most ridiculous, soppiest thing I've ever heard.

My mate actually saw this peadophile doing his thing right in front of him. His actions don't take much - if any - justification. You lot leaping to the peado's defence and attacking my mate would have been bouncing up and down calling for him to spend the rest of his life in jail if he had killed him, but what if the guy now goes on to rape & murder a kid (or even touch another one - as most have agreed likely to happen)?

You prefer the retard in society to my mate, Whiteshiva?

You're in the grip of advanced mental illness or you're trying to sound clever, but you're not fooling anybody (except maybe NR).

**dirtydog** · 15-05-2008, 01:49 AM

There were 3 main people involved in this not including the victim...

So your sitting down at the front of the bus and you see a guy lifting up the skirt of a 6 year old kid, How would you react? The guy grabbed the retard and got him away from the kid, in this situation does he realise he is a retard or cares? So now if your the guy who has hold of the retard what are you going to do next? I mean you got a foking retard you are holding away from a 6 year old girl, so, what would you do next?

**hooter** · 15-05-2008, 02:11 AM

^ DD just get rid, chuck the focker off the bus.

If you start getting involved its not worth it.

bkkmadness · 15-05-2008, 02:14 AM

Your mate attacked a mentally retarded person, he's a complete muppet for doing that. You are a muppet for thinking about helping him out. Reality is the child wasn't in danger and no one needed physical protection, your mate is just another angry young man who likes to give someone a slap if they think it can be justified.

If it had been a huge guy who looked like he could fight back I imagine your friend would have taken a far different approach.

My Dad's a bus driver and I can tell you the response in this scenario exactly.

The bus driver does not open his door, the bus driver does not come from behind his protective screen. Too many of them got stabbed before because of this, so now they follow strict procedure.

The bus driver immediately stops the bus, and radios through for police response and due to the buses always being on main roads and I think also because the police seem to be a bit quicker when dealing with public service incidents (as oppose to say a domestic on an estate) the police are usually on scene within minutes.

My Dad drives buses in London and has dealt with a number of violent incidents, he follows this procedure and it's sorted out the proper way by properly trained people. I'm thankful for this as my Dad drives through some violent areas and at 60 yrs old now, is too old to 'have a go' like he has done in the past.

So lets stop the excuse of the 'non caring useless bus driver' right now.

Let's not make out your friend is a hero either.

In reality he beat up a mentally handicapped person and saved no one.

**Northern Scum** · 15-05-2008, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by bkkmadness

If it had been a huge guy who looked like he could fight back I imagine your friend would have taken a far different approach

You can't judge my mates by your standards.

The bus driver immediately stops the bus, and radios through for police response

F.A.B.

the police are usually on scene within minutes

What planet are you from?

Let's not make out your friend is a hero either

Never said he was.

saved no one

Really?

I wouldn't like to hazard a guess at what might have happened if the guy & girl had been alone...

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