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What's the story?

My eldest has just signed up and is pretty good at gaming, he reckons he can get rich if I link a PayPal account up to it.
Apparently followers donate money to watch the gamer perform different missions.

Not sure about it all, what do you think?

Fortnight players can make a heap of dosh for less than 40 hours a week.
But they have to be good players and engage with their followers with a hook and with personality.

I fear your lad would miss school and dinners in his attempts and still not make it big time.
He'd need his own channel and specific apps to run the audience.


Have a read.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/19/tyle...-fortnite.html

That sort of money is like a gold rush, but the gold is only rare nuggets and not gold dust spread out for everyone.

depends on the game
depends how good he is
depends on how much time he has available
depends on his computer skills to record and edit
depends on how well he could market his channels - twitch , youtube , twitter , facebook , instagram etc

not so straighforward as just streaming himself playing

This guy is apparently the top-ranked player in Oceania and he makes 'between $300 - 400 per week'.

Which is fuck all.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertain...lery_id=194534

The top streamers make millions a year. There are three primary ways streamers make money. They have subscribers who autopay a monthly fee which is usually $5, donations which can be huge, and from twitch bits. Twitch divides streamers up in to three categories the first is new streamers after you unlock a series of requirements you will become an affiliate. Once you have built your viewer base and average 70-80 viewers per stream you can than apply for partnership. Many partnered streamers are doing it full time. It is not a scam twitch is owned by Amazon and on a nightly basis has a larger viewership than Netflix.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

This guy is apparently the top-ranked player in Oceania and he makes 'between $300 - 400 per week'.

He may be the top ranked Fortnite player but making that low of income he is not a top rated twitch streamer. There are more popular AU streamers making a lot more money than that.

Sounds like a h-tech pyramid scheme?

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

Sounds like a h-tech pyramid scheme?

Not even close. Do you really think that Amazon one of the worlds largest corporations is running a pyramid scheme? You simply do not have a clue what you are talking about.

Just stumbled across this:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12073881

Some interesting info.

Apparently one dude is on AU$435,400 per month and other professional streamers "earn an average of $4400 to $7300 per month".

Pewdiepie makes 1mil a month playing videogames.

People make thousands a month by just posting movie trailer reactions.

Meanwhile people doing some really creative stuff get 25 subscribers.

Originally Posted by YourDaddy

Pewdiepie makes 1mil a month playing videogames.

And he does not even stream on twitch. He just posts vids on youtube. When you combine the two mediums you can make serious money. That does not even factor into sponsorships. Companies love to partner with these guys as their viewership buys the stuff that these guys use in their PC's and streaming equipment.

Let me be clear. The video game industry is bigger than Hollywood. Twitch has a higher nightly viewership then Netflix globally. Think about that for a second. The average age of most gamers is 35 so this is not a bunch of kids. There is serious money to be made if you know what you are doing.

Originally Posted by bsnub

There is serious money to be made if you know what you are doing.

Agree wholeheartedly, but its the same story as snowboarding, skateboarding, bmx bikes - and pretty much everything else - the one percent of the one percent will make some real money. Everyone else - not so much.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

the one percent of the one percent will make some real money. Everyone else - not so much.

Yes and no. You are right there are lots of people who will try and fail but there is a real chance for people who stick with it and are interactive with their chat. Playing the right game is key if you are playing one of the top games as a noob you will have no chance. You have to start off with a niche. A game that is more obscure but still interesting for people to watch you play. I have seen people in the last year go from having 38 followers to 10,000. Still hard to break through but maybe not as hard as the board sports.

21 million subscribers.

Well, I enjoyed it.

My lad has 20 followers after a week, i will pass on the advice.
Although he probably knows it all already.
I'll have to be the accountant for him

what is his game of choice ?

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

My lad has 20 followers after a week, i will pass on the advice.

He is on the right track then. Being consistent is the most important thing to keep viewers.

Originally Posted by baldrick

what is his game of choice ?

Fortnight

^ Is he spending on it?

He has done, the odd £10 over 6 months.

Supposed to be a free game but it's not because the users buy add ons,

Lots of articles on the subject, this one is worth a read..

Children addicted to Fortnite could make their parents spend HUNDREDS for add-ons as the Season 4 Battle Pass launches

• Every few months the games creators release limited edition content for Fortnite
• Some can be earned by completing challenges while others can be purchased
• Battle Passes are paid for with in-game credits purchased with real world money
• It's also possible to buy each season's reward tiers individually, costing hundreds

By TIM COLLINS and HARRY PETTIT FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 16:07, 2 May 2018 | UPDATED: 20:46, 2 May 2018

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Gamers are rejoicing today with the launch of the latest season of hit title Fortnite.
The news is likely to cause headaches for parents, however, who have been forced to fork out on in game top up purchases in the past.
Children addicted to the survival shooter sensation, which is free to download and play, have previously racked up bills into the hundreds on upgrades.
Season 4, the latest iteration of the sandbox multiplayer game, includes a whole host of extras, including new skins and emotes for its colourful array of characters.
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Gamers are rejoicing today with the launch of the latest season of hit title Fortnite. The news is likely to cause headaches for parents, however, who have been forced to fork out on in game top up purchases in the past


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Children addicted to the survival shooter sensation, which is free to download and play, have previously racked up bills into the hundreds on upgrades

Every few months the game's creators Epic Games, based in Cary, North Carolina, releases limited edition content for Fortnite.
These range from powerful new weapon upgrades to new outfits, some of which can be earned by completing challenges.
With Season Four now live and soon available to play, the fear is that its array of new accessories will prove attractive to younger gamers, tempting them into handing over their parent's hard earned cash to rapidly earn rewards.
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Many younger players have already come unstuck, thanks to the game's systems of reward tiers. The more time spent playing, the better the rewards.
Parents across the world have bemoaned their Fortnite-obsessed children's spending habits since the game's release in September 2017.
One mother, Julie, told MoneySavingExpert last month that her son spent £150 ($205) on Fortnite without her permission.
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Fortnite took to Twitter to announce the release of Sesason 4. Every few months the games creators Epic Games, based in Cary, North Carolina, releases limited edition content for Fortnite
WHAT ARE FORTNITE BATTLE PASSES?

Fortnite offers its players powerful new weapon upgrades and new outfits as rewards, some of which can be earned by completing challenges.
But the game's rarest loot comes from optional premium Battle Passes, which grant players better quality items for each season's reward tiers.
None of the prizes impact your chances in-game, as they are purely cosmetic.
Battle Passes are paid for with in-game credits, called V-Bucks, purchased with real world money.
One season's Battle Pass costs 950 V-Bucks, with 1,000 V-Bucks costing £7.99 ($9.99).
However, it's also possible to buy each season's reward tiers individually for 150 V-bucks, which unlocks their game-play immediately.
If you were to do this for each of the season's 100 tiers, this would cost around £120 ($150).













She said: 'He thought as his name was the user name on the game the money was coming out of his account. Sadly this was not the case.'
Another, Jo, said her eight-year-old son had racked up an £80 ($109) bill on Xbox One.
She said: 'You know what it's like - we bought the game for my son and he was super-excited and we set it all up as quick as we could.
'When we put payment details in we didn't think it could be used in-game... but he spent £79.99. He's had a ban and lost some pocket money to pay it back.'
Earlier this year, a concerned parent on Mumsnet complained that their son had 'accidentally spent £80 [$108] on Fortnite'.

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Omega is the top tier skin at tier 100. The dark and mysterious skin will be a reward for the most dedicated of gamers


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Teknique is a Tier 23 skin and is a graffiti artist. Likely developed to draw attention to the new sprays that have also been launched

The anonymous user wrote: 'He was literally scrolling through, and press the A button instead of B. It was done by that one press of a button.
'Any ideas? I really can't afford to lose £80 [$108], certainly not this month.'
Fortnite's most prized loot comes from optional premium Battle Passes, which bring better quality items for each season's reward tiers.
Battle Passes are paid for with in-game credits, called V-Bucks, purchased with real world money.

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Carbide is a Tier 1 skin that will be available in season four as soon as users buy a battle pass

One season's Battle Pass costs 950 V-Bucks, with 1,000 V-Bucks costing £7.99 ($9.99).
However, it's also possible to buy each season's reward tiers individually for 150 V-bucks, which unlocks their game-play immediately.
If you were to do this for each of the season's 100 tiers, this would cost around £120 $150).
WHAT ARE THE NEW FEATURES OF FORTNITE SEASON 4?

During season three of the popular game, players noticed a metor in the sky above the map.
It appeared that the impact site would be 'Tilted Towers', the popular metropolis that is popular amongst the Fortnite faithful.
The meteor broke up and landed overnight, signalling the start of the long awaited season 4.
The existing map was destroyed and a plethora of new additions were made to the game including new skins, weapons alterations and minor bug fixes.
These include:

• Craters populate the map and 'Dusty Depot' has been destroyed and replaced with Dusty Divot - a large crater
• Each crater produces rocks that create low gravity for players
• Loot Drops - Eliminated players can now drop certain items when they die
• Structures on the starting island can now be destroyed
• Headshots are now prioritised when other body parts are in the way
• On the starting island, you can now see other players (and player-created structures) about three times further away than before
• You can now mark cosmetic items as favourites in the Locker
• 'Random' option added to each cosmetic equipment slot in the Locker
• The 4:3 aspect ratio is now supported
• The Crossbow has been vaulted
• Added an in-game player list to Replays
• The dust cloud that appears on player landings now shows for all players
• Four new pickaxes
• Three new gliders
• Three pieces of back bling
• Sprays - New to the game this form of graffiti allows players to tag walls and structures
• Trails - For the first few seconds of a battle, different trails follow the avatar as the game begins
• Banner icons - New options available for players to customise their own banners
• 'Blockbuster Challenge' - requires players to complete seven weekly challenges in total to unlock a mystery skin

Skins

• Carbide (Tier 1)
• Battlehawk (Tier 1)
• Teknique (Tier 23)
• Zoey (Tier 47)
• Valor (Tier 71)
• Squad Leader (Tier 87)
• Omega (Tier 100)

Notable bug fixes

• Fixed an issue where the compass showed '360' when it should have been '359'
• Fixed an issue where players could get stuck on the Inventory screen when opening and closing it very quickly multiple times in a row
• Players can now emote while rocket riding
• Fixed bugs that were causing some erroneous misfires and input errors on mobile

This is where many younger players come unstuck, handing over their parent's hard earned cash to rapidly earn rewards.
So what's new in Season 4?
During Season 3 of the popular game, players noticed a metor in the sky above the map.
It appeared that the impact site would be 'Tilted Towers', a bustling metropolis that is popular amongst the Fortnite faithful.


A meteor broke up and landed overnight in Fortnite, signalling the start of the long awaited season 4.Each crater produces rocks that create low gravity for players called Hop Rocks. These can be used by players to experience temporary zero gravity. Credit: Epic Games

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Sprays (pictured) are new to the game and are a form of graffiti that allows players to tag walls and structures

WHAT IS FORTNITE?

Fortnite is a game of survival where players create a superhero avatar and compete against each other on a dystopian island.
Each game, or 'match' as each competition is known, starts with 100 players.
The aim of the game is to be the last one standing. Users can form allegiances and play in small groups.
To enable this and the interactive experience, the game allows completely open communication between players.
Inspired by the Hunger Games novels and films, gamers search for weapons to help them survive.
Armed with quirky weapons and amusing dances, the game has swept across the gaming world, with children flocking to it.
While there is no exact figure on how many children play Fortnite, the game has so far pulled in an audience of over 3.4 million players.
























There are three new gliders which feature in the update. These new designs will be unlocked for users as they progress through the game








Back bling is a feature of Fortnite which allows players to customise their equipment with a variety of different styles. There are three new additions available








Back bling is a feature of Fortnite which allows players to customise their equipment with a variety of different styles. There are three new additions available

The meteor broke up and landed overnight, signalling the start of the long awaited Season 4.
The existing map was destroyed and a plethora of new additions were made to the game.
The full details of these alterations were revealed today, and include new missions, skins, weapons alterations and minor bug fixes.

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Pickaxes ar epopular in the game as it allows users to construct structures. in season four there are four new pickaxes available








Emotes - dance moves - are one of the most popular features of the game - often mimicking viral trends such as 'backpack kid'. Fortnite hopes to continute this success as it adds new emotes to the game

Craters now populate the map and 'Dusty Depot' has been destroyed and replaced with Dusty Divot - a large crater.
Each crater produces rocks that create low gravity for players, called Hop Rocks.
A brand new feature in the game, called spray, is a form of graffiti that allows players to tag walls and structures.
And a new 'Blockbuster Challenge' - requires players to complete seven weekly challenges in total to unlock a mystery skin.
New emotes feature a range of dance moves, including 'chicken' and 'freestylin'.
WHAT IS THE NSPCC'S ADVICE FOR PARENTS OF FORTNITE PLAYERS?

The NSPCC has launched new advice for parents of young people playing the multiplayer action survival game Fortnite: Battle Royale.
It comes amid concerns over a function in Fortnite which automatically allows users to speak to other players through voice and text chat functions.
It means children can be contacted by anyone else who is playing the game.
Research from NSPCC revealed that that one in four children have been contacted online by someone they don’t know.
The research is based on reviews by children and parents of the most popular apps, sites and games currently on the market, featured on the Net Aware app and website.
The NSPCC is offering parents the following advice:
- Talk to your child regularly about what they are doing online and how to stay safe. Let them know they can come to you or another trusted adult if they’re feeling worried or upset by anything they have seen. You can use our conversation starters to support you when starting these conversations.
- Explore your child’s online activities together. Understand why they like using certain apps, games or websites and make sure they know what they can do to keep themselves safe.
- Agree your own rules as a family when using sites, apps and games. You can use our Family Agreement template to help you get started.
- Manage your technology and use the privacy and parental control settings available to keep your child safe.













In a written statement, a company spokesman said: 'Season 4 is starting off with a BANG. Shards of a massive comet have crashed into the map altering the landscape.
'Discover gravity-defying Hop Rocks and find new ways to play. Jump in and witness the aftermath of the impact while you level up your Battle Pass and earn all new loot.
'The Season 4 Battle Pass sports 100 tiers of awesome new rewards, including new cosmetic items, emotes and Sprays.
'Start a movie marathon in Save the World's latest questline, Blockbuster! Part 1 starts with Five quests and one Landmark Mission.'







Trails (pictured) are what is shown when a player jumps into a game. users can choose from more options now so that for the first few seconds of a battle a customised trail follow the avatar as the game begins

The NSPCC has launched new advice for parents of young people playing the multiplayer action survival game Fortnite: Battle Royale.
It comes amid concerns over a function in Fortnite which automatically allows users to speak to other players through voice and text chat functions.
It means children can be contacted by anyone else who is playing the game.
Research from NSPCC revealed that that one in four children have been contacted online by someone they don't know.
The research is based on reviews by children and parents of the most popular apps, sites and games currently on the market, featured on the Net Aware app and website.







Banner icons are a scarcely used option currently but Fortnite is persevering with the feature. There are now new options available for players to customise their own banners

Laura Randall, NSPCC's associate head of child safety online, said: 'Apps, sites, and games such as Fortnite: Battle Royale can be great opportunities for young people to play and engage online.
'However in light of emerging concerns about the risks children could be exposed to, we are urging parents to be aware of Fortnite's features. It's vital parents have regular conversations with their children about the games they are playing, and how to stay safe online.
'Anyone looking for further online safety advice can contact the O2 NSPCC online safety helpline on 0808 800 5002 or pop into an O2 store where an O2 Guru can help.'

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

'When we put payment details in we didn't think it could be used in-game...

the only thing PUBG mobile costs me is for data - though it is possible to purchase battlepasses and clothes - but these do not make you any better at the game as it is just bling

Ya that stuff is not necessary.

So glad that Fortnite game isn't widely available here (yet!).

Policing the kids games and those fucking micro-transactions in particular is an utter pain in the arse.

It's spreading quicker than the plague. .

TBH he will have a tough time growing a twitch channel playing that game. He will be buried at the bottom of the list. But as long as he is having fun that is all that counts.