Ever been ripped by atm skimmers in bangkok

[corvettelover]

April last year whilst traversing soi 4 nanna in bangkok after falling out of the roo bar i headed to the 711 ATM to refill. plugged in the card got the readies and back to the bar. I had used this atm several times in the last two days.
I also used two types of cards in this machine one aussie NAB card and a thai citibank card.
4 months lateri get a call from the NAB bank asking where i was.
aust i answered
so you are not in thailand? no! thinking why the 20 questions.
I had used my atm card twice in atms this day in brisbane.
Evidently my card had been used in bangkok 2 hours before and the banks software had picked this up and alarm bells had rung hence the call from the security branch at my bank.

The singapore police had arrested a man carrying 500 ATM cards with a ticket to bangkok 3 days prior.
So i questioned the security guy how my card was done.It appeared i had used my cards at the 711 and a plastic device had been fitted to the front of the machine(under bright lights as well) in high foot traffic area.
The machine reads your card as you put card in it also hears the key pad tones and records these. so they remove the unit and cut a new card and now have the pin to match the card. they are cut in taiwan.
The bank refunded the money.lucky my citibank card which i tried to use on the way back at singapore wouldnt work so I rang and organised a new card and pin. to be sent to me so they missed that card.
I would never have known i was being robbed if the bank hadnt rung me.
would have noticed when i got statement, but citibank i would never have known as it is a locked numbered account and no conact with me unless i go to the branch

so if using an atm it pays to tap the front of it to make sure it is solid and not a false fronted job taking your details.
scary shit when you think of it.
only reason i remembered this was i saw Benbaas experience on a link this morning

[The Gentleman Scamp]

I condone the mass culling of already wealthy theives who steal from the bank accounts of others.

[mrsquirrel]

Before the smart chips came out it was easier.

You just needed to skim the card and get the details of the magnetic strip.

Get a card reader/writer and write the details onto another credit card with somebody elses signature on it (genuine card) get them to go shopping.

I don't think they record the sound of the keys since it's the same. I believe they have to see the keys you push to get the details

One prick over on TV argued with me that the skimmer actually read the embossed numbers and that was how you got conned. Plonker. What fucking good are the numbers unless you are making imprints of the cards.

[corvettelover]

this wasnt a credit card just a savings account They used the pin so they got it somehow camera sound dont know either way i pound the shit out of all atms i use now. a thief pulling a $1000AUD out every day can do some damage to your bank account,

[Butterfly]

which 711 ? I think a Malaysian guy was doing this last year in Bangkok. The keypad tone is the same for every number, that's one security flaw that nobody make these days. He was said to be tapping phone lines to the bank instead and that's how he got the numbers. If you know the handshake protocol of that banking process, no need for a pin number.

[Sanuk Canuk]

This is why I have my ATM card set at $300 (can) max per day. If I need cash for an emergency I always have my Visa backup but I never use the Visa in Thailand if I can avoid it. I go over my account weekly and would notice the problem.....granted I could still be out ~$2,000 but that is alot better than $7,000 ! In any event the bank is liable for this kind of fraud, not you. Your only obligation is to contact them immediatly if you notice anything fishy.

[corvettelover]

which 711 ? I think a Malaysian guy was doing this last year in Bangkok. The keypad tone is the same for every number, that's one security flaw that nobody make these days. He was said to be tapping phone lines to the bank instead and that's how he got the numbers. If you know the handshake protocol of that banking process, no need for a pin number.

Soi 4 straight across from Roo bar used to run by an aussie from perth
Ron he sold bar at xmas baking pies now