Thread: The Premier League 2017/2018

Originally Posted by hallelujah

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by hallelujah

It's a terrible decision. It's a 50/50 where the keeper has come off worst, but in his area it will be 80/30 in his favour and the attacker won't be able to touch him.

As anyone who has played football knows, the ball is there to be won at that height outside the 18 yrd box.

As anyone who has played football knows, sticking your foot in someone's head, especially when they are actually off the ground, is dangerous play and Stevie fucking Wonder would have given a straight red there.

What a pile of shit.

The ball was there to be won as any outfield player would try to do.

No wonder you're an Arsenal fan.

Clearly you have no understanding of either refereeing or laws of the game.

No wonder you're a fucking idiot.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by hallelujah

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by hallelujah

It's a terrible decision. It's a 50/50 where the keeper has come off worst, but in his area it will be 80/30 in his favour and the attacker won't be able to touch him.

As anyone who has played football knows, the ball is there to be won at that height outside the 18 yrd box.

As anyone who has played football knows, sticking your foot in someone's head, especially when they are actually off the ground, is dangerous play and Stevie fucking Wonder would have given a straight red there.

What a pile of shit.

The ball was there to be won as any outfield player would try to do.

No wonder you're an Arsenal fan.

Clearly you have no understanding of either refereeing or laws of the game.

No wonder you're a fucking idiot.

You haven't got a clue, have you, you spastic?

Originally Posted by hallelujah

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by hallelujah

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by hallelujah

It's a terrible decision. It's a 50/50 where the keeper has come off worst, but in his area it will be 80/30 in his favour and the attacker won't be able to touch him.

As anyone who has played football knows, the ball is there to be won at that height outside the 18 yrd box.

As anyone who has played football knows, sticking your foot in someone's head, especially when they are actually off the ground, is dangerous play and Stevie fucking Wonder would have given a straight red there.

What a pile of shit.

The ball was there to be won as any outfield player would try to do.

No wonder you're an Arsenal fan.

Clearly you have no understanding of either refereeing or laws of the game.

No wonder you're a fucking idiot.

You haven't got a clue, have you, you spastic?

If you had the slightest fucking clue, you would know that referees'' guidelines since at least 2013 have had foot high challenges on an opponent as dangerous play *regardless* of intent.

Occasionally there may be referee's discretion if both players are challenging for the ball, but in this case Mane obviously went to try and get to the ball first without thinking of the possible consequences.

If he'd gone in with his head and Edelson had got there first, it would have been a foul and maybe a yellow.

But what he did was DANGEROUS PLAY you dopey fucker.

And there is no requirement for Intent.

I would stick to Football Manager, that way you won't keep making yourself look like a c u n t.

sure harry...

now stfu ya Gooner

And you can stick to Subbuteo you dim fucker.

^ That daily mail is blocked here for most people.

I think it was a definite red. If the boot was on the other head and the keeper was out of his box using kung fu kicks to get an advantage because he cant use his hands i doubt anyone would be debating the decision

The fact is that 'intent' is irrelevant.

It's law twelve, I believe, concerning dangerous play. The relevant term as used in law twelve is 'excessive force'.

Mane used it = red card.

The Daily Mail also has Graham Poll explaining why Chris Sutton is wrong, btw...

Originally Posted by Dillinger

^ That daily mail is blocked here for most people.

I think it was a definite red. If the boot was on the other head and the keeper was out of his box using kung fu kicks to get an advantage because he cant use his hands i doubt anyone would be debating the decision

Forgot about that. Have a bit of Gary Nev in the Torygraph then.

Gary Neville's prediction comes true as Matt Ritchie escapes red card for same high-boot challenge as Sadio Mane[at]

Originally Posted by cyrille

The fact is that 'intent' is irrelevant.

It's law twelve, I believe, concerning dangerous play. The relevant term as used in law twelve is 'excessive force'.

Mane used it = red card.

I know that, but what's he supposed to do? Pull out? Excessive force exists in every challenge when you're that close to goal and every one of us would do the same as Mane did.

I still think it was an awful decision.

On the plus side, Liverpool ended up getting beat 5-0, so it's not all bad.

It was 'one of those'...the correct decision, but where one must sympathise with the player dismissed.

Also, it shouldn't disguise how dismally Liverpool folded.

re Matt Ritchie...no two challenges are exactly the same.

In Neville's last game he escaped one of the most obvious reds ever seen...so he can fork right off.

I know its a contact sport Hal but its not fukkin Thunderdome

If he'd have gone in late on the keeper with a raised foot and done his ankle it would be a red so why not when hes 6 feet off the ground into the poor blokes jaw?

Originally Posted by cyrille

Also, it shouldn't disguise how dismally Liverpool folded.

.

Indeed.

They were awful, but I'm not entirely convinced by either of those teams at the back.

It says it all that Liverpool actually miss Clyne.

I'm not sure what happened to defending in general in the whole country.

In particular, what on earth does Steve Bould actually do
during the week?

Originally Posted by Dillinger

I know its a contact sport Hal but its not fukkin Thunderdome

If he'd have gone in late on the keeper with a raised foot and done his ankle it would be a red so why not when hes 6 feet off the ground into the poor blokes jaw?

Because neither player could see each other. It's a different kettle of fish when the ball's on the ground and you'd have to make a conscious effort to nail the player in that case.

Talking about conscious efforts to nail the man...

Originally Posted by cyrille

In Neville's last game he escaped one of the most obvious reds ever seen...so he can fork right off.

On Odemwingie, wasn't it?

Originally Posted by Dillinger

I know its a contact sport Hal but its not fukkin Thunderdome

If he'd have gone in late on the keeper with a raised foot and done his ankle it would be a red so why not when hes 6 feet off the ground into the poor blokes jaw?

Was clearly a case of jaw to foot, and not foot to jaw.

Dodgy keeper played for it.

^thats gone straight over your head like Mane's boot would have if you were playing

I see Mourinho had a sulk after being told to fuck off


Jose Mourinho refused Mark Hughes handshake because Stoke manager told him to 'f--- off'

Must be maturing in his old age. Usually he'd go for the ol' eye-gouge.

Originally Posted by Dillinger

I see Mourinho had a sulk after being told to fuck off


Jose Mourinho refused Mark Hughes handshake because Stoke manager told him to 'f--- off'

The pair of them are thoroughly unlikeable.

And I say this as someone who worshipped "Hughesie" when he played for us.

Interesting first 10 minutes or so on City v Liverpool on Match of the Day 2.



To lose 5-0 reflects badly on Klopp. Ok, City are a top team with great forwards, but to lose by 5?

Damage limitation should be the name of the game and Klopp didn't have a clue what to do. Neither did his defenders.

Originally Posted by hallelujah

I know that, but what's he supposed to do? Pull out? Excessive force exists in every challenge when you're that close to goal and every one of us would do the same as Mane did.

You would if you were a fucking carthorse.

Andy Gray, a "traditional" centre forward in every sense of the word, accurately described it:

If you are a striker and you want to bring down a through ball, you wait for it to drop; you would never try and control it with your foot six feet off the ground.

Which means he saw the keeper, and was most likely trying to poke the ball over or round him.

While his intent wasn't to hit the keeper, his actions were reckless and endangered the opponent.

Red Card all day long.

Get over it you chump.

Originally Posted by Dillinger

I know its a contact sport Hal but its not fukkin Thunderdome

If he'd have gone in late on the keeper with a raised foot and done his ankle it would be a red so why not when hes 6 feet off the ground into the poor blokes jaw?

because the keeper was outside the box and trying to block the ball with his head..?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

his actions were reckless and endangered the opponent

ditto the keeper... if he didn't get stretchered off he should have got a red card for being a fucking idiot

Its a different game nowadays Neo. Gone are the days when you could go in hard

Ex-Southampton footballers describe abuse at club - BBC News