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    US judge frees convicted ‘Making a Murderer’ subject Brendan Dassey

    Those of you who watched "Making a Murderer" may find this interesting....


    US judge frees convicted ‘Making a Murderer’ subject Brendan Dassey
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    A US judge in the state of Wisconsin has ordered the release from prison of Brendan Dassey, who was featured along with his uncle in the Netflix documentary series “Making a Murderer.”

    Unless prosecutors decide to appeal the judge’s order overturning Dassey’s conviction, he could be set free in 90 days.

    Dassey and his uncle Steven Avery were sentenced to life terms for the murder of a woman in 2005.

    Their story was featured in the Netflix documentary series, prompting many to believe that they were improperly convicted.

    The judge’s order included strongly worded rebukes of the investigating police and of Leonard Kachinsky, the public defender appointed in 2006 to represent Dassey — a 16-year-old minor at the time.

    US Magistrate Judge William Duffin referred to Kachinsky’s representation as misconduct that was “indefensible.” He also said police investigators acted inappropriately toward Dassey.

    “The investigators… assured Dassey that he had nothing to worry about. These repeated false promises, when considered in conjunction with all relevant factors, most especially Dassey’s age, intellectual deficits, and the absence of a supportive adult, rendered Dassey’s confession involuntary,” Duffin said.

    Following release of the Netflix series, fans called for the two men to be freed and almost 130,000 people signed a White House petition asking for a presidential pardon.

    “There is clear evidence that the Manitowoc County sheriff’s department used improper methods,” the petition said.

    The White House explained that because the men were not convicted of federal crimes and “are both state prisoners,” pardoning them was outside the scope of the president’s power.

    The documentary was prompted by the unusual story of Avery, who remains in prison serving a life sentence.

    He was exonerated of a rape case through DNA evidence and freed from prison in 2003 after serving 18 years behind bars.

    Two years later, while he was suing Manitowoc County in Wisconsin over wrongful imprisonment, he was arrested over the death of 25-year-old photographer Teresa Halbach.

    Dassey was also charged with Halbach’s murder and sentenced to life in prison.

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    Yes, that was obviously a very shaky interview the police carried out.

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    Interesting turn. Really shitty police work.

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    Shitty or deliberate?

    And I wonder how this will affect Avery's appeal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Shitty or deliberate?

    And I wonder how this will affect Avery's appeal?
    Poor choice of words on my part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Shitty or deliberate?

    And I wonder how this will affect Avery's appeal?
    Poor choice of words on my part.
    Well what they did was pretty shitty of them, so you weren't really wrong.


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    So there's still a killer on the loose. The one who really done it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Shitty or deliberate?
    Those are mutually exclusive?


    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Well what they did was pretty shitty of them, so you weren't really wrong.
    So, 'no'.

    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi
    So there's still a killer on the loose. The one who really done it.
    You haven't watched it, have you.

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    Definitely an interesting turn of events.

    I watched that doco series, really quite fascinating.

    For what it's worth (i.e. 5/8ths of feck all) I've still got no idea if Avery is guilty or not but Dassey looked like a stitch up from the get go.

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    I sure did watch the Documentary on YouTube after My last comment.

    So the Cops killed the woman and planted the evidence at the trailer trash Steven Avery caravan.
    So there's still a cop hired killer on the loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi
    I sure did watch the Documentary on YouTube after My last comment.
    Your last comment was at 11:20 PM last night, the series is 10 episodes of 47–66 minutes length.

    Do you not sleep?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    So there's still a killer on the loose. The one who really done it.
    SORRY
    I meant this last comment. On this post. I watched it in the afternoon GMT, which probably was 11pm BKK time.
    Didn't have to watch all of it, because on YouTube where also Fox News clips explaining and interviewing intellectuals who made it clear to the audience that this was a rogue Police force.
    Thanks to Fox News, I got the edited summing up.

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    So Cyrille was correct, you haven't watched it.

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    ^If he had he would of course be aware that Dassey could very likely be innocent but Avery guilty.

    Therefore no 'killer on the loose'.

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    Creepy little man, inbred family.

    He did the second rape and murder, i'm sure. Next series of this starts in December.

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    I watched it some time ago, from the show [if you believe all the facts aired] there was no real forensic evidence against Avery.

    The kids confession was the main prosecution evidence, but no DNA was found in Avery's trailer, if I remember correctly.

    So if the 16 year old's evidence has been thrown out, then Avery should walk, he may be guilty or not, but the system is guilt beyond reasonable doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat View Post
    Creepy little man, inbred family.

    He did the second rape and murder, i'm sure. Next series of this starts in December.
    Avery was straight out of the movie set of deliverance , what a dumb simpleton, he gets out of prison after 18 years, says that he's so happy to be back with his kids and return to a happy family life, only to go out 2 years later and murder a photographer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    I watched it some time ago, from the show [if you believe all the facts aired] there was no real forensic evidence against Avery.
    Yes there was.

    Blood found in the victim's car was a DNA match with Avery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    Blood found in the victim's car was a DNA match with Avery
    True but there was also the 'smoking gun' of the blood vial that had been tampered with.

    Mind given the outcome of the trial it was less smoking gun and more fizzer.

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    Indeed

    Just clarifying James' error.

    Not really up for a recap of season 1.

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    Haha, fair enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    I watched it some time ago, from the show [if you believe all the facts aired] there was no real forensic evidence against Avery.
    Yes there was.

    Blood found in the victim's car was a DNA match with Avery.
    But the murder was allegedly committed in Avery's trailer according to the kids statement, her blood nor any of her DNA was found in the trailer.

    Throw out the kids statement, very little other evidence, poor police work at best, set up at worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    I watched it some time ago, from the show [if you believe all the facts aired] there was no real forensic evidence against Avery.
    Yes there was.

    Blood found in the victim's car was a DNA match with Avery.
    And there was the fact that someone turned up to "search for evidence" and found the car almost immediately.


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    Aye, gripping stuff anyway.
    Hard to see how season 2 can live up to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Aye, gripping stuff anyway.
    Hard to see how season 2 can live up to it.
    They supposedly have new evidence for the appeal.

    And this debunked confession helps cast doubt as well.

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