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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    they were being fucked over by a corrupt market mafia. From one to two, from two to three, from three to four, you get the idea. Its ingrained corruption at its best in the lower levels, but still quite lucrative.
    Yeh, I read that on Facebook( unsubstantiated gossip posted on the interwebz ).
    Do you really believe, if they were being intimidated by the Thai mafia they would be running around with an axe making a huge song and dance in the media? Or why they didn't bother to mention the Thai mafia at their press conference? ....surely that would be the first thing brought up if true.

    While we're on the subject of mafia and corruption etc, what kind of Bangkok family do you think live in a house like this?

    Rear view:


    .....but, they should still be given millions of baht of public funds, cos Thailand's poor don't deserve it as much as this wealthy family with their parking issues, right?
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    F*CK OFF - YOU HAVEN'T A CLUE
    My points have been defeated, I bow down to your superior intellect and the sheer depth of your comprehensive and incontrovertible arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    They could have simply called a cop to slap a ticket on the offending vehicle and/or put up a huge sign warning not to park there, if the problem was as bad as they claim.
    Clearly you didn't read the whole thread before you started spouting shite.

    They've exhausted every legal avenue open to them and the the crooks that ran these illegal markets were basically spitting in the face of the legal system.

    It would seem the publicity over her actions is what finally spurred the useless fucking Bangkok administration mongs to get off their arses and do something.

    But yes, she should donate the compensation to a charity for the poor and would then have the moral high ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I'm guessing he has a personal interest.
    He soon will, he owns the new site, lock, stock an barrel.

    Don't they all reassess the market locations upon election and move a few to more "agreeable sites"? Plenty of reasons acceptable to the masses. A win/win solution.

    The cost, one insured pickup and a few in-pocket reporters and their internet re-posting lackeys.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Clearly you didn't read the whole thread before you started spouting shite.

    They've exhausted every legal avenue open to them and the the crooks that ran these illegal markets were basically spitting in the face of the legal system.

    It would seem the publicity over her actions is what finally spurred the useless fucking Bangkok administration mongs to get off their arses and do something.

    But yes, she should donate the compensation to a charity for the poor and would then have the moral high ground.
    I read the article, but I don't automatically believe everything I read in the Thai press, I prefer to use my own eyes, experience and common sense to judge what is true and what is not.

    If they've exhausted every legal move as you claim then where are the links/articles to the long hard fought legal battle? ...as they can obviously afford lawyers!

    Why didn't they bring up the Thai mafia angle at the press conference?

    If you think these 2 lying hags are going to donate millions of free baht to Thailand's poor you must be very naive with very little understanding about rich people and how they come to live in gigantic houses, although it is very strange if you do feel that Thailand's poor are more deserving of this money then why wouldn't you want the funds to be kept in the public purse and spent on the people who need it?

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    'Angry aunties' spark debate on Bangkok's informal markets

    BANGKOK (THOMSON REUTERS FOUNDATION) - A Bangkok court this week ordered the closure of five informal markets in a housing estate, and compensation for four women who live next door, bringing an end to the "angry aunties" saga that gripped the city for months.


    Bangkok's governor vowed to clamp down on such markets, which civic groups defend as integral to the city's economy and colourful character.


    The promised crackdown is part of a wider effort to modernise Thailand's capital, with authorities also clearing sidewalks of vendors, and removing homes and shanties along the Chao Phraya river to build a promenade.


    Civic groups say these evictions mostly target poor residents who have little legal recourse, as they have no formal rights to their homes and businesses.


    "They contribute to making Bangkok liveable and affordable,"said Sasiwimon Warunsiri, an assistant professor of economics at the University of the Thai Chamber of Commerce.


    "But they themselves have little social, economic or legal security," she told the Thomson Reuters Foundation.





    Two of the four "aunties" shot to fame when they went at a pickup truck parked outside their home with an axe and a metal rod, saying they were fed up of having their lives disrupted by the illegal markets they had complained about for years.


    The tirade in February was filmed by onlookers and posted online, where it quickly went viral, drawing sympathy for the women - who were dubbed "angry aunties" - and the traders alike, in a heated debate about informal markets.


    The court on Wednesday ordered municipal authorities to pay about 400,000 baht (S$16,710) as compensation to each of the plaintiffs.


    "We agree the markets must be demolished, but I will consult with my legal team on the compensation," Bangkok governor Aswin Kwanmuang told reporters following the order.


    More than half the approximately 1,000 markets in Bangkok are illegal, and authorities "will get tough" with them, ordering them to shut down or get a licence, he said.


    Under the military government since 2014, Bangkok has sought a "dramatic reduction" in the number of vendors in public spaces, according to HomeNet Thailand, an organisation of informal workers.


    Authorities say they are removing encroachers to make public spaces and riverfront areas accessible to more people.


    They are not alone: with Asian cities striving to become more international and lure investment, street vendors are viewed as a hindrance, and as usurpers of public spaces claimed by formal businesses, residents and pedestrians.


    Most vendors in Bangkok are unauthorised, right groups estimate. Many are migrants from rural areas who moved in search of better economic opportunities.


    "Authorities have tended to allow informal markets to operate because they are popular with residents, but we may see a stricter clamp-down if more people complain," Sasiwimon said.


    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se...formal-markets

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    I read the article, but I don't automatically believe everything I read in the Thai press, I prefer to use my own eyes, experience and common sense to judge what is true and what is not.

    If they've exhausted every legal move as you claim then where are the links/articles to the long hard fought legal battle? ...as they can obviously afford lawyers!

    Why didn't they bring up the Thai mafia angle at the press conference?

    If you think these 2 lying hags are going to donate millions of free baht to Thailand's poor you must be very naive with very little understanding about rich people and how they come to live in gigantic houses, although it is very strange if you do feel that Thailand's poor are more deserving of this money then why wouldn't you want the funds to be kept in the public purse and spent on the people who need it?
    Well clearly you make you mind up without even reading.

    .BANGKOK — What years of legal fights and court orders failed to accomplish was achieved by several axe swings on a car. Bangkok’s governor announced Wednesday that five street markets operating illegally in eastern Bangkok must go down within a week.

    Gov. Aswin Kwanmuang told reporters the markets – which surround the mansion of a family that spent years in court trying to have them moved – must come to an end because they never had relevant permits in the first place, though a former official in charge of the area said the move is unlikely to happen.
    And I said "she should donate", not will.

    Another one who reads half a sentence and goes off at half cock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Yeh, I read that on Facebook( unsubstantiated gossip posted on the interwebz ).
    Do you really believe, if they were being intimidated by the Thai mafia they would be running around with an axe making a huge song and dance in the media? Or why they didn't bother to mention the Thai mafia at their press conference? ....surely that would be the first thing brought up if true.

    While we're on the subject of mafia and corruption etc, what kind of Bangkok family do you think live in a house like this?

    Rear view:


    .....but, they should still be given millions of baht of public funds, cos Thailand's poor don't deserve it as much as this wealthy family with their parking issues, right?
    thats one depressing pic

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    It appears the "Axe wielding ladies" have won, at last, a court case due to the publicity surrounding this event. Part of the court's judgement included paying a sum of money to the "Axe wielding ladies". It appears as if the Bangkok authorities have been held responsible for allowing this situation to simmer for years due to not closing the illegal markets.

    This "ignoring" of planning laws was "overlooked". Some Government Paid Officers (GPO) have been fined.

    One wonders how much the market owners have been reaping from all the impoverished vendors day after day, for the x number of years. The vendors obviously made money otherwise they wouldn't keep retuning. What % went to the GPO's protection fund could be assessed.

    Would it not be more appropriate for the market owners to pay the fine. Maybe not all as they have "probably" been paying protection money to the GPO's. The protection money paid could be gathered from the sale of the GPO's assets.

    The street vendors will move on to a less "policed" market, the market area will be sold for redevelopment, from which funds to reimburse the "Axe wielding ladies" would be paid. The now ex-market owners can now start a new market elsewhere. Probably the market owners will profit from the new areas redevelopment themselves.

    I also suggest the "Axe wielding ladies" should be charged with the offence of attacking an unarmed car and pay repair and mental cruelty costs to the owner who has been violated by not having a shiny new car.

    A refund of the offence to the car damages award should be deducted for the mental anguish of those "trapped" in their house for all of 40 minutes. About the same time it takes for the average Thai family, to actually get in and drive away; after chatting to decide who sits where, what products should go inside and what can go in the load area under "the so unusually hot sun" and should they stop 5 minutes down the road to have some food. All the time blocking any other road user from using the Thai owned road.

    How much does a Thai judge earn, does he get a special badge for his car and what rank of police officer has to Wai to the judge's badged car? Where does one apply for such a job.

    Court Rise. This court is adjourned.


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    BMA instructs officials to prevent vendors from setting up stalls in disputed Prawet area

    BANGKOK, 4th June 2018, (NNT) - A Deputy Bangkok Governor has visited the Seri Villa project in Pravet district of the capital, where the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) recently closed down five markets being operated illegally, to prevent unauthorized use of public space by the sales venue.

    The removal of the markets came following a dispute between members of the Saengyoktrakarn family, residents of the villa, and a pick up owner who illegally parked the vehicle in front of their house, triggering the Saengyoktrakarn siblings to attack the truck and sparking a lawsuit against the BMA.

    Deputy Bangkok Governor Taweesak Lertprapan led the inspection with the Prawet district chief and concerned officials making up the crew. The investigators found that several vendors had returned to their hometowns, while others have relocated to Papa market and another vending spot in front of the Paradise shopping mall in Soi Srinakarin 53. The two venues can reportedly host 500 vendors. Nevertheless, Tessakij officials in Prawet district have been instructed to keep an eye on the disputed area and to prevent merchants from setting up stalls in the area.

    Regarding the BMA’s plan to appeal to the administrative court to forego the compensation payment to the Saengyoktrakarn family, the Deputy Bangkok Governor said responsible officers are now collecting evidence before presenting them to the tribunal.

    Earlier the Central Administrative Court found the BMA, guilty of negligence for failing to close down the unlicensed markets as demanded by the Saengyoktrakarn family. It also ordered Bangkok Governor Aswin Kwanmuang to pay 360,000 baht compensation to the Saengyoktrakarns, to accrue at an annual interest of 7.5 percent.



    National News Bureau Of Thailand | BMA instructs officials to prevent vendors from setting up stalls in disputed Prawet area

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