Thread: Amnesty for Former TRT Executives?

Originally Posted by sabang

Some dysfunctional democracies are Japan, SKorea, Singapore and Malaysia.

Singapore a democracy ? got confused and mixed up again about the definition of Democracy, sab ?

It is a democracy- free elections are held, there is more than one choice of party to vote for. The fact that 'one party' dominates (the Chinese party, basically) and the other (the Malay party, basically) is the perennial also ran is not what we Democratic aesthetes like to see, but you do have the choice whom you vote for.

Singapore is a functional state (few would disagree) but a flawed democracy. Lets say the ruling party totally stuffed it up- corruption scandals, economic mismanagement, etc. People have the choice to switch their vote, and in these circumstances many would. So at the end of the day, there is democratic accountability.

Originally Posted by sabang

free elections are held,

we might need to redefine the word "free" here, as opposition groups not "approved" by the government are not allowed,

you are completely clueless when it comes to recognizing a democracy or not, but you being a strong conservative, it's perfectly logical that you would fail such a test

Originally Posted by sabang

but you do have the choice whom you vote for.

like you could in communist countries in the 70s and 80s

Originally Posted by sabang

People have the choice to switch their vote, and in these circumstances many would. So at the end of the day, there is democratic accountability.

but they can't switch their vote, that's the point you are missing, so there is no accountability

it's funny to see how you are an apologist of Singapore as a Democracy, and yet when the same situation was in Thailand, you called it a dictatorship

you can't have it both ways, sab, so you need to clear your mind first with the right definitions. I recommend a few beer laos for that

Originally Posted by Butterfly

but they can't switch their vote,

I really don't know what u are rattling on about. Here's the results of the last Singapore elections (more parties than I realised actually)-

Summary of the 7 May 2011 Parliament of Singapore election results
Parties and alliances Leader Contested
seats Seats won Popular vote % of valid votes +/- % of valid votes in contested wards +/-

People's Action Party Lee Hsien Loong 87 81† 1,212,154 60.14 6.46 60.14 6.46
Workers' Party Low Thia Khiang 23 6 258,510 12.83 3.51 46.58 8.15
National Solidarity Party Goh Meng Seng 24 0 242,682 12.04 0.95* 39.25 6.37*
Singapore Democratic Party Chee Soon Juan 11 0 97,369 4.83 0.76 36.76 13.53
Reform Party Kenneth Jeyaretnam 11 0 86,294 4.28 New party 31.78 New party
Singapore People's Party Chiam See Tong 7 0 62,639 3.11 9.88* 41.42 8.90*
Singapore Democratic Alliance Desmond Lim 7 0 55,988 2.78 10.21 30.06 2.46
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s_in_Singapore

Of course you can switch your vote- although the 'choice' is restricted to the parties contesting your electorate, as elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

funny to see how you are an apologist of Singapore as a Democracy

No, wrong. I suppose you Bk expats don't get around much, but I'm surprised you don't know the rather contemptous attitude of the HK'er to things Singapore. I appreciate your learning curve is slower than the expats I rubbed shoulders with in Hk (otherwise you'd be there earning the money), so I'll repeat-

Originally Posted by sabang

Singapore is a functional state ... but a flawed democracy.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

the right definitions

As defined by some obscure Gallic in Bangkok?

What's so flawed about democracy in Singapore? They've at least had a government... how long has Belgium been without one?

Originally Posted by sabang

Of course you can switch your vote- although the 'choice' is restricted to the parties contesting your electorate, as elsewhere.

hilarious twist of reality,

Originally Posted by sabang

As defined by some obscure Gallic in Bangkok?

still doing better than your English "conservative" definition of Democracy. I bet you were a Thatcher supporter with such a fuzzy logic.

Originally Posted by sabang

No, wrong. I suppose you Bk expats don't get around much, but I'm surprised you don't know the rather contemptous attitude of the HK'er to things Singapore.

you are going to a whole new level of insanity, completely irrelevant tangent in a discussion about the definition of Democracy

are you sure you are not sharing a room with Calgary and TBR ?

Originally Posted by Gerbil

Originally Posted by Calgary

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Get outa here!

Someone tell this fucking idiot that this is not a political discussion board.

some one should tell the fcukin idiot that he is a fcuking idiot

if this is not the bald retard back then it is one of his support group

Ah-Ha ! I thought he was a "cigar smoker", guess I was right !

Its definately time for khun T to return and take his rightfull position of elected Prime Minister and sort out the challenges that currently face the country.

All these floods are bad karma as a result of the illegal junta proxy coup in 2006.

These floods wont relent untill they have washed away all the axis of evil embedded in thai society.

^^^
Does your mother let you out at night?

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Does your mother let you out at night?

Originally Posted by noelbino

^^^
Does your mother let you out at night?

Your mother made the mistake of letting you out of the womb.

Kwanchai: Thaksin buys pumps from Korea for govt to mitigate flooding - The Nation

Kwanchai: Thaksin buys pumps from Korea for govt to mitigate flooding

October 25, 2011 9:06 am

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has ordered pumps from Korea for the government of his sister, Yingluck Shinwatra, to use for draining floodwaters, a red-shirt leader said.

INN news agency Tuesday quoted Kwanchai Priaphana, the chairman of Udon Thani Loving Club, as saying that Thaksin had ordered many pumps and they should be delivered to Thailand by Wednesday.

The Nation

"He will 100-per cent return to Thailand in December 2011 because he misses Thailand a lot and he wants to come back home," Kwanchai was quoted by INN news agency as saying.

So, there it is folks....as predicted....

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Kwanchai: Thaksin buys pumps from Korea for govt to mitigate flooding

never miss an opportunity to draw the attention or have people talk about him for his actions,

and they say we are obsessed with Thaksin

^ Love the timing for this 'announcement' too...

Thaksin buys pumps from Korea for govt to mitigate flooding

That is reasonably fair of Mr T when you consider that Abhisit just ran away from the floods to sip cocktails on a Maldives beach

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

"He will 100-per cent return to Thailand in December 2011 because he misses Thailand a lot and he wants to come back home," Kwanchai was quoted by INN news agency as saying.

So, there it is folks....as predicted....

As Kwanchai has been saying something along these lines every six months for the last 4 years it's hardly much of a prediction. Unless you're saying you actually believe him? You do know who he is, don't you? He's hardly to be taken seriously.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

"He will 100-per cent return to Thailand in December 2011 because he misses Thailand a lot and he wants to come back home," Kwanchai was quoted by INN news agency as saying.

So, there it is folks....as predicted....

As Kwanchai has been saying something along these lines every six months for the last 4 years it's hardly much of a prediction. Unless you're saying you actually believe him? You do know who he is, don't you? He's hardly to be taken seriously.

"Sucking up' is the operative word here.

There has developed a wide gap between leadsrhip elements.

Damn, this is difficult....talking in riddles wondering if it can be interpreted.

Originally Posted by Scaramanga

Thaksin buys pumps from Korea for govt to mitigate flooding

That is reasonably fair of Mr T when you consider that Abhisit just ran away from the floods to sip cocktails on a Maldives beach

Except that he didn't....

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

"He will 100-per cent return to Thailand in December 2011 because he misses Thailand a lot and he wants to come back home," Kwanchai was quoted by INN news agency as saying.

So, there it is folks....as predicted....

As Kwanchai has been saying something along these lines every six months for the last 4 years it's hardly much of a prediction. Unless you're saying you actually believe him? You do know who he is, don't you? He's hardly to be taken seriously.

I know who he is.

Whether he should be taken seriously is another matter entirely. I take it you don't think of him as a reliable source then?

However, Thaksin's daughter is getting married....