Thread: Amnesty for Former TRT Executives?

he still believes in fairies. Wanker.

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

He's barking mad, the only road to reconcilliation is through his demise.

Maybe a shoulder wound would bring him to his senses

A familial shoulder, naturally.

Originally Posted by Gerbil

Either he's totally out of touch, or he's decided that PTP can screw over the red shirts by forcing through reconciliation and then buying them off with other promises.

Looks like more the latter from here.

Megalomania is a psycho-pathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of power, relevance, or omnipotence. 'Megalomania is characterized by an inflated sense of self-esteem and overestimation by persons of their powers and beliefs'.


Yep, fits just fine.

Originally Posted by BobR

Megalomania is a psycho-pathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of power, relevance, or omnipotence. 'Megalomania is characterized by an inflated sense of self-esteem and overestimation by persons of their powers and beliefs'.


Yep, fits just fine.

Well, yes, but it broadly applies to an entire social class here. Actually, I think the megalomaniacal tendency is considered a feature rather than bug at the top of the pyramid in Thailand, or maybe it is just thought of as a perk. Humility and modesty don't appear to be considered virtues around these parts.

"And our leaders have feasts on the backsides of beasts
They still think they're the gods of antiquity. . ."

I am seriously beginning to wonder if Thaksin and his parties' policies are not being deliberately designed to destroy Thailand both socially and economically, perhaps as a maniacal revenge because he now realises he has little chance of returning to Thailand.

The constant refrain about "reconciliation", Charter amendments etc. merely stirs the Red and Yellow mobs to more confrontation and social division.

Populist and totally unsustainable policies are now so embedded in the Thai Economic order that it will be almost impossible to roll them back without causing even more resentment from the Red shirt mob, even though the evidence of the destruction these policies cause is there for them to see. As an example the Rice pledging scheme with its' so-called guaranteed prices for farmers, far above world Market prices, has not benefited farmers but has reduced Thai Rice exports by about 40%, left the Government with warehouses full of unsold rice and lost Thailand the place of top Rice exporter in the world - a position it had held for many years. Despite all of which the Government - i.e. Thaksin - has already stated that the Policy will be continued next year.

That is only one example of course but I am becoming more and more convinced that there is a pattern in all of this.

Patrick

Let Thailand bring this awful man back as soon as the Government sets up a South African style, independent Truth and Reconcilliation Commission. He can be held under house arrest until his past has been debated. Then he can serve his sentence if it is found to be just, and he can have his money back if it is determined he made it honestly and without corruption.

Who better to make an example of than one of the untouchables.

Or, as Harry says, someone can just whack him and save all the bother.

^^So, Patrick, Thaksin isn't just another asset farmer, he's an asset farmer with an ax to grind, is that it? That's paranoid. He simply found a new tool for self-aggrandizement in demagoguery, something nobody else at the top ever saw the need for, and he used it well. It's not a shadowy plot, it's as old as representative government, which is why the only thing the fascists can think to do now is try to disenfranchise the voters. Not only do they doubt, despite a few weak forays by Mark A, they can beat Thaksin at the game, they think they can get away without even playing, because while Thaksin has the lion's share of the support of the masses, they still have the muscle.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Thaksin calls for constitutional changes in Thailand - The Nation

Thaksin calls for constitutional changes in Thailand

Deustche Presse-Agentur
Jakarta July 18, 2012 9:03 am

Fugitive former Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra on Tuesday said Thailand's constitution needed to be revised to make it more democratic.

His remarks in Jakarta came less than a week after the Constitutional Court ruled that legislators in Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra’s governing party could not rewrite the country’s constitution.

"I would like to urge everybody in Thailand, especially the Constitutional Court, that Thailand needs to move forward in a democratic manner, not just like this," he said after participating in a seminar on reconciliation in Jakarta.

"This is not good for the country," he said.

The current constitution was drafted in 2007, a year after the Thai military ousted Thaksin.

Thaksin, a former telecoms tycoon, fled Thailand to escape a 2-year sentence after he was convicted of abuse of power in 2008. He now lives in Dubai.

He said Friday’s court ruling had nothing to do whether he could return or not.

"It’s a question of how we can bring back the constitution that is more democratic," he said.

The Constitutional Court also ruled Friday against a claim that the government of Yingluck, Thaksin’s sister, was trying to overthrow the constitutional monarchy with its bid to amend the charter.

The ruling defused fears that the ruling Pheu Thai party could be dissolved and its executives banned from involvement in politics for five years.

Leaders of the so-called red-shirt movement - which demonstrated in Bangkok for two-and-a-half months in 2010, leading to street battles that claimed 91 lives - threatened to the streets again should the court rule against the government.

The court halted the passage of the amendment bill after a simultaneous debate last month on a proposed reconciliation bill.

That bill appeared designed to pave the way for an amnesty for Thaksin, which would allow his return to Thailand without serving his sentence.

Thaksin said he would only return when there was a guarantee that there would be no unrest.

"Definitely I want to go back but I don’t want to go back and create more conflict," he said. "I want to go back and help reconcile the country."

He insisted that he was a victim and not part of the problem. "The problem is there’s resistance to change among the establishment."

I'm the VICTIM???
What a load of crap.
Square head listen carefully: YOU are the cause of all the existing problems in this country.
Anyone with any intelligence knows that.
Come back,do your 2 years and everything will be OK???
No fucking way.
Stay where you.

And heres what he said according to a indonesian newspaper

THAKSIN return to Thailand only for reconciliation - Bisnis.com

Originally Posted by noelbino

YOU are the cause of all the existing problems in this country.

What a load of claptrap. you obviously haven't known Thailand for very long at all.

Originally Posted by Yasojack

And heres what he said according to a indonesian newspaper

THAKSIN return to Thailand only for reconciliation - Bisnis.com

And your point is..................?

^ I hope Thaksin lives to a ripe old age...his son will inherit the lot and that is a very scary prospect for this country....!

He's been getting very active of late, lots of postings on Facebook and public profile raising activities. I shudder to think.....

Providing another source of info. is there a problem with it ?.

Whatever Thaksin says will become distorted, it sells better.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Originally Posted by Yasojack

And heres what he said according to a indonesian newspaper

THAKSIN return to Thailand only for reconciliation - Bisnis.com

And your point is..................?

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

^ I hope Thaksin lives to a ripe old age...his son will inherit the lot and that is a very scary prospect for this country....!

He's been getting very active of late, lots of postings on Facebook and public profile raising activities. I shudder to think.....

Who? The kid? Why is he scarier than any other spoiled Thai kid?

most probably because he has celebrity status

Originally Posted by noelbino

Square head listen carefully: YOU are the cause of all the existing problems in this country.

All the problems? Perhaps some but I think you need to cultivate a sense of pespective, Noelbino,

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

^ I hope Thaksin lives to a ripe old age...his son will inherit the lot and that is a very scary prospect for this country....!

He's been getting very active of late, lots of postings on Facebook and public profile raising activities. I shudder to think.....

Ooooh, he's big on Facebook. Give us some more reasons why Thaksin's idiot son is worse than any other idiot son, even other more potentially wealthy and much-loathed sons?

Originally Posted by Patrick

I am seriously beginning to wonder if Thaksin and his parties' policies are not being deliberately designed to destroy Thailand both socially and economically, perhaps as a maniacal revenge because he now realises he has little chance of returning to Thailand.

The constant refrain about "reconciliation", Charter amendments etc. merely stirs the Red and Yellow mobs to more confrontation and social division.

Populist and totally unsustainable policies are now so embedded in the Thai Economic order that it will be almost impossible to roll them back without causing even more resentment from the Red shirt mob, even though the evidence of the destruction these policies cause is there for them to see. As an example the Rice pledging scheme with its' so-called guaranteed prices for farmers, far above world Market prices, has not benefited farmers but has reduced Thai Rice exports by about 40%, left the Government with warehouses full of unsold rice and lost Thailand the place of top Rice exporter in the world - a position it had held for many years. Despite all of which the Government - i.e. Thaksin - has already stated that the Policy will be continued next year.

That is only one example of course but I am becoming more and more convinced that there is a pattern in all of this.

Patrick

It's a terrible policy, but it's not a populist one, it's designed to dole out money To the puyais in isaan and the north to ensure that his sister survives in government. Why do you think they rushed this policy more even more than the amnesty bills and charter amendments. The floods also played a delaying role for those too of course.

Originally Posted by robuzo

Ooooh, he's big on Facebook. Give us some more reasons why Thaksin's idiot son is worse than any other idiot son, even other more potentially wealthy and much-loathed sons?

You can't actually go too far into the subject of idiot sons. Could be a criminal offence

^Don't have the foggiest idea what you mean.