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    In second interview with foreign media, Thaksin calls for return to democracy

    In second interview with foreign media, Thaksin calls for return to democracy

    (BangkokPost.com, Agencies)
    Ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has appealed for a return to democracy in an interview with a Hong Kong newspaper published today.
    Mr Thaksin told the Asian Wall Street Journal - the Hong Kong-based edition of the US' Wall Street Journal - that the public would not tolerate military rule in Thailand for long.

    Democracy "is in the blood of the Thais," he said.

    The interview was published as Thai Rak Thai, the political party he founded, went on trial accused of electoral fraud in the last election in which Mr Thaksin ran, last April 2.

    It was Mr Thaksin's second controversial interview in 20 hours. Earlier, agents of the military junta censored portions of an interview shown on CNN, and for a while cut off access to the CNN and BBC (sic) websites.

    In a wide-ranging interview with the Journal, Thaksin also criticised the military-installed government's economic policies and denied any involvement in deadly New Year's Eve blasts which killed three people,.

    "We have tasted democracy, and we believe in democracy. So it's time for Thailand to restore democracy as soon as possible," he said in the interview, published in the newspaper and on the Wall Street Journal website.

    "Democracy is in the blood of the Thais. They can tolerate (a non-elected government) for a period of time - one year, one year and half - but then the return of democracy is necessary."

    The ruling junta has pledged elections and a return to democracy by the end of this year.

    In an interview peppered with references to democracy, Thaksin pointed to Thailand's battered international standing. Its diplomatic relations have been strained since the coup, with the United States and Europe leading calls for the lifting of martial law and an accelerated return to democratic rule.

    "If you aren't a democratic country, then it is very difficult to deal with other countries. Even ministers cannot meet with other (countries') ministers. You cannot meet ministers from the US," he said.

    "You can't do business with the rest of the world."

    Thaksin, a 57-year-old billionaire businessman, criticised the government's economic policy.

    The Thai stock market plummeted a record 15 percent in December after the Bank of Thailand announced draconian capital control measures aimed at halting the rise in the country's soaring currency.

    Just hours after that was announced, the finance minister backtracked and said the new rules would not apply to all foreign investment.

    "Whether you like it or not, we have to live under a capitalist system. And to live in it successfully, we have to open up our economy and our society," Thaksin told the newspaper.

    "If you make a 180-degree about-turn in one day, then the confidence is destroyed," he said.

    Thaksin said he did not want to return to Thai politics, and denied any role in the Dec 31 Bangkok blasts, which killed three and injured dozens.

    "I'm not that kind of person," he said. "It's not my style. It's just too gruesome."

    The Bangkok government has claimed elements linked to Thaksin masterminded the attacks, and the ex-premier said that was one of the reasons he decided to speak up at last. "When they make allegations against me, I have to explain," he told the paper.

    Thaksin was in New York at the time of the putsch and has remained in exile since then.

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    Thaksin suddenly being such a champion of democracy, when he has done everything he could to undermine it in Thailand? Not to mention his government's cozy (and lucrative) relationship with the pariah next door, the Burmese junta.

    It makes me want to puke. What a f&cking hypocrite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwillyhggtb View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie View Post
    The media is then sole source of information to a huge majority (maybe 90%+) of the worlds population and should always be held responsible for what it publishes.

    where's MeMock? I want his take on this....
    In an ideal world it should be held responsible but it isn't, not by a long shot.

    All media everywhere is biased in some way either by the individuals or government who own them. It's scary how much control over our minds they have.
    News is what someone, somewhere is trying to suppress - everything else is just advertising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie
    until someone comes along that actually does some thing to better education, health care and education
    So you educate people then what? Education only has value to people and governments if both have the opportunity to profit from it and until the balance of labour requirement here swings away from agricultural to technical those opportunities won't exist. The country is moving that way but slowly slowly aided by both inward and foreign investment that creates a demand for a better educated work force. The current government in their scaring away of business investment have dome more to harm education in this country than they realise.

    Face? All politicians in every country value their 'face' in the west it is normally callled 'credibility'. Politicians who admit to making mistakes don't last long.
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    UBC bows to military pressure, agrees to censorship

    UBC bows to military pressure, agrees to censorship

    Bangkok Post reporters
    The Thaksin Shinawatra interview with CNN on its weekly Saturday Talk Asia show will not be seen in Thailand.
    Thailand's main pay-TV provider said yesterday it would block an interview with deposed prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra that CNN plans to run this evening. UBC spokeswoman Kantima Kunjara told the AFP news agency that they will not air it because of a request by the Council for National Security (CNS).

    "Since the CNS has asked for cooperation from the broadcasting media not to broadcast statements from former prime minister Thaksin, UBC will cooperate and will not broadcast his interview," she said.

    The Foreign Correspondents Club of Thailand (FCCT) plans to replay the interview at the clubhouse on Monday.

    In a letter sent to members yesterday, the FCCT expressed "deep disappointment" with UBC's decision to block excerpts of the interview, made in Singapore on Jan 15.

    The FCCT decided to send a letter of concern to Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont on Jan 16 because it considered UBC's action "regardless of on whose direction it was taken," to be "unnecessary and improper interference".

    In the letter to Gen Surayud, FCCT president Ian Williams noted that the prime minister "made much of the importance of an open and responsible press" during an address to the FCCT on Nov 7.

    "We hope that you will take steps to uphold this position, and also do everything in your power to promote a balanced debate in all the media about Thailand and its present situation," he added.

    The FCCT president said the "attempt at censorship casts the Thai authorities in a poor light, and is in many ways pointless" as the interview had been reproduced in a number of publications and on several websites, and was available on YouTube.

    Media watchdog Reporters Without Borders said: "Censoring or blocking news or information carried by any media does not prevent the information's existence, and those who want to have access to it usually succeed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie
    until someone comes along that actually does some thing to better education, health care and education
    So you educate people then what? Education only has value to people and governments if both have the opportunity to profit from it and until the balance of labour requirement here swings away from agricultural to technical those opportunities won't exist. The country is moving that way but slowly slowly aided by both inward and foreign investment that creates a demand for a better educated work force. The current government in their scaring away of business investment have dome more to harm education in this country than they realise.

    Face? All politicians in every country value their 'face' in the west it is normally callled 'credibility'. Politicians who admit to making mistakes don't last long.
    And that's a real pity.I would vote for somebody that was honest and said thay had made a mistake,way before any other prick that had a big 'Face'.I must be in the minority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal
    Education only has value to people and governments if both have the opportunity to profit from it and until the balance of labour requirement here swings away from agricultural to technical those opportunities won't exist.
    There has already been a notorious shortage of specialised skills and middle management for years in Thailand which had those qualified demanding wages beyond what is reasonable in a Thai context.

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    Status in Thailand

    This has been an obvious trouble spot for me until I realized that the have/have-not society in Thailand is by design.

    The elite class, mostly ethnic Chinese, with cash and power, intentionally keep the working class down.

    Without this cheap labor pool they would have to spend some of their hoards of cash/property to get their streets swept, their gardens manicured, their food/fruit grown, cars washed and driven and most of all their mia noys.

    Power begetts power and they are not about to give an opportunity to others unless absolutely forced too. Uneducated populaces are easily controlled and driven until total frustration breaks out. When that happens even the beloved Thai king won't be able to quiet the situation.

    If you don't think this argument holds water, take a look closely at South AMerica. The majority of countries have been ruled for decades by idiots and despots interested in only lining their own pockets and bank accouints.... Taksin fits the mold here also.

    Now we see a very large surge of socialistic power figures coming to the fore. If they were truly socialists I've no argument. Me thinks its just more of the same, the 'ole' boys lining their pockets at the expense of others labor and sweat. The Socialist message is designed and focused for the uneducated masses, give them dreams and feed them ground corn.

    This is definitely not a political statement at all, just one man's observations of life in Thailand over the 7+ years of living here full time.


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    Defiant Thaksin denies junta's corruption allegations

    Defiant Thaksin denies junta's corruption allegations


    Deposed Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra denied allegations of corruption and abuse of power in an interview broadcast Saturday, in an apparent attempt to undermine the rationale for his ouster.




    A defiant Thaksin told CNN that the junta, which overthrew his elected government on September 19, had yet to provide any evidence of illegal activity during his premiership despite its best efforts.

    "(They are) baseless allegations, it's just a political tool. And I cooperate very well with all relevant agencies, but now they still cannot find any evidence against me," he said.

    Military leaders have repeatedly justified their bloodless coup by saying widespread corruption during Thaksin's five years in office undermined democracy and divided the kingdom.

    "I never bend the rules," said billionaire businessman Thaksin, who has been accused of corruption, nepotism, fixing elections and heavy-handed tactics against separatist insurgents and drug dealers.

    "Everything is through the rule of law, not just trying to set up my own law, set up my own rules, no, I'm not a dictator," he added.

    Thaksin insisted that he obeyed the law during a controversial business deal involving Shin Corp, the telecom giant he founded.

    Thaksin's family sold their 49 percent stake in Shin Corp to Singapore's state-linked Temasek holdings for 1.9 billion dollars under a tax-free deal in January 2006.

    The deal triggered months of street protests demanding Thaksin's resignation over alleged corruption, culminating in the putsch. Investigations into the sale are still underway.

    "In selling equity through the stock exchange, it's tax exempt by law," Thaksin told CNN.

    "It's not because of you are a prime minister or not prime minister you have to pay tax or not pay tax. The law said that you don't have (to)," he added.

    In the interview -- blocked by Thailand's main cable operator UBC following a request by the junta -- Thaksin said he was ready to return to Thailand to answer the allegations in court.

    The toppled leader appeared to be rubbing salt into the wounds of the junta, which has faced criticism for not yet proving any wrongdoing against Thaksin, despite reviving key anti-graft bodies.

    Junta chief General Sonthi Boonyaratglin in October said investigators had failed to uncover solid evidence of corruption. Investigations are ongoing.

    Thaksin also said he did not regret his policies in the Muslim-majority south, where his heavy-handed tactics were blamed for exacerbating a three-year separatist insurgency which has killed more than 1,800 people.

    "For those terrorists you have to use iron fist ... sometimes they just try to focus on my iron fist, but actually I have done a lot on the velvet glove side," he told CNN.

    In excerpts of the interview first broadcast Monday night, Thaksin denied involvement in the December 31 bombs that killed three and injured dozens in Bangkok, and said he had had enough of politics.

    But although Thaksin claims he has no intention of returning to politics, the South China Morning Post reported Friday that he had engaged the services of a top Washington political lobby group.

    Thaksin has remained in exile since the coup, hopping between Europe and Asia.

    When in Singapore last week, the twice-elected leader conducted the interview with CNN and met a deputy prime minister, prompting Thailand to issue a strong rebuke to the city-state.

    Asked about why he was in Singapore, Thaksin replied: "Well you know I travelled here to play golf. And (meet) some old friends."

    The government revoked Thaksin's diplomatic passport on January 10, while the junta issued a warning against broadcasting Thaksin's statements.

    "Sometimes they worry too much about me," Thaksin told CNN.

    Thaksin arrived in Japan on Thursday night, where his lawyer said he would spend up to five days.

    Agence France-Presse

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    Thaksin arrives for visit to Japan

    (Bangkokpost.com)

    Ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra has arrived in Japan to meet with business leaders and to give a speech, Japanese media reported Friday.

    Mr Thaksin arrived at Tokyo's Narita International Airport late on Thursday on a private jet from Beijing, but played down the trip, telling reporters there was no pressing reason for his visit and no meetings had been set, according to news from the wires.

    "Now is time for me to relax, get together with my family, see my old friends,'' Mr Thaksin said.

    Mr Thaksin is expected to stay in Japan until next Thursday, Jiji Press said.

    Mr Thaksin is likely to give lectures and meet with Japanese business people, the Yomiuri Shimbun newspaper said.

    There were reports that Mr Thaksin had agreed to talk to NHK Television, the interview which, if broadcast, might be censored in Thailand.

    According to AP, Japanese officials confirmed that they had no plans to meet with the ousted premier.

    "There are no meetings scheduled between Mr. Thaksin and Japanese government officials,'' said Foreign Ministry official Masahiro Yoshida. "We have our relations with the current Thai government to consider. ... We are aware that the government is very sensitive about this issue,'' he said.

    AP also reported that Mr Thaksin, who was reportedly scheduled to give a speech at the prestigious Tokyo Univeristy and to receive honorary degree in political science there, was not going to get any degree from the university.

    University spokeswoman Kayoko Hayashi said none of the school's main departments had plans to receive Mr Thaksin, it said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles
    We are aware that the government is very sensitive about this issue,'' he said.
    The Japaneese grasped it but the Singaporean didn't..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles
    Tokyo Univeristy and to receive honorary degree in political science there
    Great. He could come back to Thailand and teach politics.

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    The Thaksin interview is being shown on CNN's Talk Asia as I write (8:35 AM, Sunday) and it hasn't ben red-screened yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gibbon
    Power begetts power and they are not about to give an opportunity to others unless absolutely forced too. Uneducated populaces are easily controlled and driven until total frustration breaks out. When that happens even the beloved Thai king won't be able to quiet the situation.
    I think you'll find that the head of a certain family is, and always has been, supportive of a military government in Thailand, and for obvious reasons isn't a big fan of democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gibbon
    Power begetts power and they are not about to give an opportunity to others unless absolutely forced too. Uneducated populaces are easily controlled and driven until total frustration breaks out. When that happens even the beloved Thai king won't be able to quiet the situation.
    I think you'll find that the head of a certain family is, and always has been, supportive of a military government in Thailand, and for obvious reasons isn't a big fan of democracy.
    Judging from the idiots the Thais consitently vote into power, I'd say the gentleman you are referring to may very well have a valid point......
    Any error in tact, fact or spelling is purely due to transmissional errors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    I think you'll find that the head of a certain family is, and always has been, supportive of a military government in Thailand, and for obvious reasons isn't a big fan of democracy.
    I'm reading a book right now that makes this point over and over again.

    BTW -- True Vision (no longer UBC/True/MCOT) just censored CNN's report on the sale of Shin corp....

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    The Gentleman's wishes had crossed my mind, however, with a professed 'love' of the poor I had discarded that option.

    Maybe it is waiting time until a suitable candidate emerges?

    Interesting to observe all the recent machinations.

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    At least they've changed the bloody red screen to an "intermission" screen without that horrible red shit.

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