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    Steve Schertzer, Ajarn Writer

    Steve Schertzer, esl_steve@excite.com

    Outsourcing in the TEFL Industry

    This fella is despised on the Korean forums for some of his views.

    Korean Job Discussion Forums :: View topic - Outsourcing TEFL: Not Just For Western Creepy People Anymore

    I have just brushed over it until now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yu_Bum_suk[/url]
    Mr Schertzer, will you confirm or deny whether you were terminated from AUA Language Center, 179 Rajadamri Road, Lumpini, Pathumwan, Bangkok 10330, for discussing your affairs with bar girls with your students and general incompetence?
    Is one of Ajarns regular writers a man who was fired for discussing his whore mongering with his students?
    Anybody got the dirt?

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    how old were the students
    what sex/gender?

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    Steve Schertzer gets some credit from me for writing articles for newspapers and posting under his own name.

    It seems that if people disagree with his opinion, they have a tizzy fit.

    He's also critisized EPIK and others.

    The word from AUA, is that he was teaching a writing class, and the students complained so much that they had to give him the axe.

    He wrote about his writing class, and how to teach it on Ajarn.

    Of course this is what I was told, but it was from a person who worked at AUA Ratchadamri, and I am assuming they have veracity.

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    ^ I heard similar from a few people. Thought it would make a good post in here though. Nothing like stirring the pot.

    I actually quite like his articles. They paint the EFL industry in a pretty true light. Problems is nobody likes to hear that they are just EFL bums.

    He's like Smeg without the overthetopness that he sometimes shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel View Post
    ^ I heard similar from a few people. Thought it would make a good post in here though. Nothing like stirring the pot.

    I actually quite like his articles. They paint the EFL industry in a pretty true light. Problems is nobody likes to hear that they are just EFL bums.

    He's like Smeg without the overthetopness that he sometimes shows.
    mrsq,

    I don't know why people get their knickers in a twist with Schertzer.

    I think they're just jealous he's writing his own opinions.

    Sometimes he's over the top, but often, I agree with him.

    Even the "I own the classroom" article.

    I hope he keeps writing. I'm quite sure he will.

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    I own the classroom was pretty good.

    Upset a lot of people.

    Is he just an old alky getting by as a TEFL bum or is he sitting there laughing at us as he teaches just for fun living off his millions as CEO of Samsung?

    Still pretty funny if the fella got fired from AUA for a shit writing class and then tells people how to teach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel View Post
    I own the classroom was pretty good.

    Upset a lot of people.

    Is he just an old alky getting by as a TEFL bum or is he sitting there laughing at us as he teaches just for fun living off his millions as CEO of Samsung?
    Hard to say, mate.

    Still pretty funny if the fella got fired from AUA for a shit writing class and then tells people how to teach.
    You can still find that thread on Ajarn, I'm sure. Do a search.

    As Steve's writing class thread and ideas emerged, people started critiqueing his teaching of writing. Bangkok Phil offered a lot of great ideas for teaching writing and dealing with the student complaints Schertzer described. Schertzer started discussing how the class wasn't going well, and that the students weren't happy, etc., and many thought it revealed how little he knew about teaching writing, based upon Steve's own opinions on teaching it.

    I'll do a search for that thread. I assume it's in the "classroom."

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    hey Milky you've been direct quoted over on the ESLcafe for that thread above. Do you want me to try and bully some royalties out of them.

    More intersting is this.

    Quote Originally Posted by BKK Phil
    Original post edited and actual photo removed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Some fella who started the thread
    The photo was published in the on-line edition of the Korea Times (which happens to be down at the moment). Steve apparently wants his photo to be in the public domain associated with his name. What's the problem, then? May be not post photos from a national newspaper on this site?
    So is Steve one of Phils old buddies? Why was the fella's photo taken down?

    Natalie8 appears to know a lot about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel View Post
    hey Milky you've been direct quoted over on the ESLcafe for that thread above. Do you want me to try and bully some royalties out of them.
    Where am I quoted? What thread on ESL Cafe? Thanks.

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    dave's is a disappointing little spot. sort of a tv goes esl.

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    He seems to have his act a bit more together now, but a few months ago Steve Schertzer gave the best impression of a man documenting his own mental meltdown!

    I don't agree with everything he says by quite a long shot, but he does make some valid points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel View Post
    Mr Schertzer, will you confirm or deny whether you were terminated from AUA Language Center, 179 Rajadamri Road, Lumpini, Pathumwan, Bangkok 10330, for discussing your affairs with bar girls with your students and general incompetence?

    Is one of Ajarns regular writers a man who was fired for discussing his whore mongering with his students?
    Anybody got the dirt?
    I can surely vouch for this and agree that he's guilty of this because one of an ex-students told me about this.

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    ive met steve. ive seen him walking with a young man/boy in pattaya along beach road at night. he is the complete opposite of how he comes off in his writing. hes shy, helpless, and confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsara
    ive met steve. ive seen him walking with a young man/boy in pattaya along beach road at night. he is the complete opposite of how he comes off in his writing. hes shy, helpless, and confused.
    oh yeah, nice credible first post.

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    [quote=kingwilly;639125]
    Quote Originally Posted by samsara
    ive met steve. ive seen him walking with a young man/boy in pattaya along beach road at night. he is the complete opposite of how he comes off in his writing. hes shy, helpless, and confused.
    I wouldn't want to be near him. His writing style (and I've read a few articles) seems to overcompensate for his lack of control in his own life. I'm sure you've got his card, Samsara.

    A real douchebag...no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    oh yeah, nice credible first post.
    ....slightly more credible than your 18,120th though....

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    credible in what way ?
    Last edited by kingwilly; 28-05-2008 at 06:30 PM.

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    ^Single smiley posts.... DD can you ban this muppet

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickA
    ^Single smiley posts.... DD can you ban this muppet
    flaming in newbies threads, jail term i think!

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    ^it would be..... if this WAS a newbie thread.

    Moron

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    I can't believe all you morons who correspond with, and are members of TD. You can't get jobs in your own country, so you come to Thailand, where you masquerade as teachers,


    **the rest of his crap has been deleted. Why? I hit the wrong fucking button. Regardless, he/she/it can post again. My apologies...***
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    ^think you're in the wrong place, try ajarn dot com

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    or thai visa.

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