Thread: Any doubts about Climate Change?

Originally Posted by bsnub

First off it is not an "article" it is an opinion piece. That is the first and most important point. Secondly it is written by an unnamed source. With regards to your site...



It is a trash site and propaganda. Once again you swallow it hook line and sinker.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/inves...usiness-daily/



Anyone with an IQ above 100 can see that this statement is complete bullshit.

And yet you stated the same thin,and that is that cheap natural gas is the number one cause of the U.S.co2 emmisions being reduced,does that make your post trash.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

And yet you stated the same thin,and that is that cheap natural gas is the number one cause of the U.S.co2 emmisions being reduced,does that make your post trash.

Why would anyone respond to this gibberish?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

If you had read even the first paragraph of my first linked article you would have seen this little nugget:

• 7/12/2018

Global Warming: Once more, science provides bad news for global warming alarmists. U.S. CO2 levels again declined during 2017, despite overall global output again rising. Credit U.S. fracking and the natural gas boom. But don't worry: the hysteria won't end.

I think you're too stupid to realise what you're saying.

US CO2 levels did not decline in 2017, they went up like they did over the rest of the world you senile old fool. There is not an invisible wall around America that keeps other countries' atmospheres at bay.

US CO2 EMISSIONS dropped slightly in 2017. Which is commendable, but not much fucking good as they're still chucking out tons of the shit.

Daily CO2


Mauna Loa Observatory | Atmospheric CO2 Concentrations

December 3, 2018	409.18 ppm	NOAA-ESRL
December 3, 2017	407.04 ppm	NOAA-ESRL

Originally Posted by bsnub

I am saying the articles and sources are not credible and do not explain why CO2 emissions have declined in the US

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

aily CO2


Mauna Loa Observatory | Atmospheric CO2 Concentrations


December 3, 2018 409.18 ppm NOAA-ESRL
December 3, 2017 407.04 ppm NOAA-ESRL

Up, down daily,monthly,annually which is it?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Up, down daily,monthly,annually which is it?

It's just not worth explaining to a retard.

We'll just have to hope that if you read it again slowly a little light bulb might come on.

Originally Posted by bsnub

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/inves...usiness-daily/

Rather amusing that Snubb used this website to certify media sources. It's a yale driven establishment gate keeper mob designed in the "fake news" psy-op to ensure that only the official CNN narrative is pushed.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Rather amusing that Snubb used this website to certify media sources. It's a yale driven establishment gate keeper mob designed in the "fake news" psy-op to ensure that only the official CNN narrative is pushed.

Snug fit is it, the old bacofoil headgear?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Snug fit is it, the old bacofoil headgear?

Yet he can not counter any of the facts on the page. Laughable.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I think you're too stupid to realise what you're saying.

US CO2 levels did not decline in 2017, they went up like they did over the rest of the world you senile old fool. There is not an invisible wall around America that keeps other countries' atmospheres at bay.

US CO2 EMISSIONS dropped slightly in 2017. Which is commendable, but not much fucking good as they're still chucking out tons of the shit.

Daily CO2


Mauna Loa Observatory | Atmospheric CO2 Concentrations

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December 3, 2018	409.18 ppm	NOAA-ESRL
December 3, 2017	407.04 ppm	NOAA-ESRL

Are you to stupid to even understand that we are talking about emissions of co2,not the amount of co2 in the atmosphere?

Originally Posted by bsnub

I am saying the articles and sources are not credible and do not explain why CO2 emissions have declined in the US. The source you quoted is manipulating information and lemmings like yourself run off with it like it is some holy nugget. It is not. The only reason why CO2 has been declining is because natural gas is cheaper than fracking. If fracking suddenly can be profitable again then the CO2 output would increase exponentially literally overnight.

The point is that under your orange god the US is doing nothing to reduce it. Other countries are and having excellent results. That is the entire point I was making you dimwit.



Sources are of the upmost importance especially when your side is engaged in outright lies and propaganda many of your sources like these are complete trash.

The facts are what’s important.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Are you to stupid to even understand that we are talking about emissions of co2,not the amount of co2 in the atmosphere?

Are you so absolutely demented that you think this crap was worth posting?

Or do you honestly think a decline of a couple of percentage points from one of the worlds biggest CO2 polluters is changing anything significantly?

Once more, science provides bad news for global warming alarmists. U.S. CO2 levels again declined during 2017, despite overall global output again rising. Credit U.S. fracking and the natural gas boom. But don't worry: the hysteria won't end.

The most useful form of CO2 reduction will be when idiots like you stop exhaling it.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Are you so absolutely demented that you think this crap was worth posting?

Or do you honestly think a decline of a couple of percentage points from one of the worlds biggest CO2 polluters is changing anything significantly?



The most useful form of CO2 reduction will be when idiots like you stop exhaling it.

Youdon’t even have a clue why I posted this do you.So let’s go back,the conversation was about a Trump pulling out of the Paris climate agreement. I posted to the effect that even after Trump pulls out of said agreement the U.S. had the largest decline in co2 emissions of the top 20,then Bsnub pops in trying to refute the point which is why I posted the links.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Are you so absolutely demented that you think this crap was worth posting?

Or do you honestly think a decline of a couple of percentage points from one of the worlds biggest CO2 polluters is changing anything significantly?



The most useful form of CO2 reduction will be when idiots like you stop exhaling it.

Or do you honestly think a decline of a couple of percentage points from one of the worlds biggest CO2 polluters is changing anything significantly?

Better than an increase.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Or do you honestly think a decline of a couple of percentage points from one of the worlds biggest CO2 polluters is changing anything significantly?

Better than an increase.

Hardly any difference in the big scheme of things.

Hopefully when that fat orange fuck gets kicked out his replacement will sign back up pronto.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Why would anyone respond to this gibberish?

You won’t because it makes you look like an idiot.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Hardly any difference in the big scheme of things.

Hopefully when that fat orange fuck gets kicked out his replacement will sign back up pronto.

Why would they sign back in,so the U.S.can be blead for more cash while elitist fly around the world in jets spewing tons of carbon along the way and attend high class functions all at the expense of the common man. Then meet to discuss how much wealth redistribution will take place that particular year.

Not taking a position, but 'experts' claim the volcano that popped in Iceland a few years ago spewed somewhere between 15-20,000 x more pollution into the air than was saved by every green measure combined around the world up until that time.

This does suggest a 2% cutback from the world's biggest polluter after great effort and probable manipulation of data is insignificant if not laughable, esp considering other major polluters that signed up to various green bills to decrease emissions did so for stature and couldn't care a toss.

Repeater gets told by a guy who flies in his own jet that global warming is a conspiracy by the 'elites' and other nations to perpetrate a fraud on the US...

And he believes and parrots it!

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Then meet to discuss how much wealth redistribution will take place that particular year.

Since when did you care about that? You are trumpanzee and most likely supported the GOP tax cut for corporations and the wealthy. The largest "wealth redistribution" by far.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

First,Trump was not my pick for president.

If if you want to to donate your money to a cause that will do nothing to curb co2 emissions be my guest L am not interested.

If you actually believe this Paris climate accord is anything more than an income redistribution scheme you really have been brainwashed by your masters,they could give a toss,if you don’t believe it do a little research on what it has accomplished so far.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...R4WbwtX02kLhrw

Congratulations. You've just perfectly illustrated why the US should be a leader in climate change and not turn its back on the developing world.

Having said that, America hasn't really been a leader in anything for a long time, other than mass shootings.

^also in meddling

Originally Posted by bsnub

Since when did you care about that? You are trumpanzee and most likely supported the GOP tax cut for corporations and the wealthy. The largest "wealth redistribution" by far.

What at is it to you what I care adopt?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

you really have been brainwashed by your masters

Why don't you tell me just who my masters are you old coffin dodger. I know exactly who you propaganda puppet masters are. I would like you to tell me who mine are. I will be waiting.

One of the problems of climate change and why some people are skeptical is the overly cool winters experienced which that climate expert D Trump falls back on to justify his argument. This ignores the elephant in the room which is the worlds oceans. The change in ocean currents due to climate change can trigger catastrophic winters (food for deniers) in one place while causing high heat and drought events in others. The other problem which is caused by warming oceans and atmosphere is the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere. This actually amplifies the problem of global warming caused by greenhouse gases as it is in itself a global warming "gas" so as global sea temperatures rise. The amount of evaporation increases.
This becomes a two edged sword. Anyone who understands the thermodynamic properties of air understands that the warmer the air the greater the capacity to hold water vapour and therefore the greater capacity to hold heat energy in the air thus compounding the problem. The effect can be seen in the different night temperature experienced in many deserts compared to places in the tropics.