Thread: child porn and Muslim terrorists....

From The Times

October 17, 2008

Link between child porn and Muslim terrorists discovered in police raids

Paedophile websites are being used to pass information between terrorists


Richard Kerbaj and Dominic Kennedy

div#related-article-links p a, div#related-article-links p a:visited { color:#06c; } A link between terrorism plots and hardcore child pornography is becoming clear after a string of police raids in Britain and across the Continent, an investigation by The Times has discovered. Images of child abuse have been found during Scotland Yard antiterrorism swoops and in big inquiries in Italy and Spain.
Secret coded messages are being embedded into child pornographic images, and paedophile websites are being exploited as a secure way of passing information between terrorists.
British security services are also aware of the trend and believe that it requires further investigation to improve understanding of terrorists’ methods and mindsets. Concerns within the Metropolitan Police led to a plan to run a pilot research project exploring the nature of the link. One source familiar with the proposal said that this could eventually lead to the training of child welfare experts to identify signs of terrorist involvement as they monitor pornographic sites.
Concerns have already been expressed at Cabinet minister level about the risk of vulnerable Muslim youths being exploited by older men.
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Officers have noted that child sex abuse images have been found during investigations into some of the most advanced suspected plots. However, it is understood that the proposed research project was never implemented because the AntiTerrorism Branch was overwhelmed by the sheer number of cases it was having to deal with.
It is not clear whether the terrorists were more interested in the material for personal gratification or were drawn to child porn networks as a secure means of sending messages. In one case fewer than a dozen images were found; in another, 40,000.
British security sources confirmed that such a link had been discovered in several cases. They noted the contradiction between people supposedly devoted to theocracy and Islamic fundamentalism and their use of child pornography. “It shows that these people are very confused,” a source said. “Here they are hating Western decadence but actually making use of it and finding that they enjoy this stuff.”
Baroness Neville-Jones, Conservative security spokeswoman and former chairwoman of the Joint Intelligence Committee, said: “The information about a possible link between extremism and child pornography potentially provides useful insight into three things: the methods that extremists use to communicate; the methods they use to target vulnerable people in society; and the techniques they seek to use to conceal their online activities.” She added: “There is no doubt that these possible linkages should merit further research.”
Andrew Dismore, the Labour MP and chairman of the parliamentary Joint Committee on Human Rights, said: “This is an important development. We have to do more than just the police work. It needs child protection, criminological and psychological work. It could become a very important weapon in the fight against terrorism.” He urged researchers to review cases where terrorists had been convicted to look for this link.
The first British suspicions of a link between child sex abuse and jihadis emerged in London in 2006 when antiterrorism police in two unrelated investigations were shocked to find computerised images of hardcore child pornography. The key case that tipped off the security services to a plausible link involved the “White-chapel Rapist”, Abdul Makim Khalisadar. A former Mujahidin and a preacher at the East London Mosque, he was being examined for his links to a hardcore Islamic militant who was later convicted of terrorism. Khalisadar was never convicted of terrorist offences. The other investigation involved a young religiously observant Muslim.
The Times has learnt that a criminal investigation also found child pornography on computers after a raid in 2001 at a mosque run by an al-Qaeda recruiter in Milan. Italian police believe that the images were encoded with messages. At a forthcoming terrorism trial in Spain, the alleged mastermind of a Muslim cell has also been accused of downloading hundreds of child sex abuse pictures and videos.
Meanwhile, police uncovered a right-wing terrorist plot when they raided a home after being tipped off about pornographic images. This June, the Nazi sympathiser Martyn Gilleard was jailed for 16 years after being found guilty of terrorism. Police found 39,000 indecent images of children at his flat in Yorkshire.
Invisible ink for the internet age
— Messages may be concealed within digital images and audio, video or other files. The method is called steganography, derived from the Greek for “covered writing”
— Although the average person will not be able to detect the hidden messages by either listening to or viewing a file, the intended recipients can use applications to reverse the steganography process and gain access to the information
— Experts say that the advancement in encryption technology is outpacing the authorities’ abilities to monitor suspected terrorists and paedophiles
— Italian authorities uncovered files of child abuse images that had been manipulated by a terrorist cell after a raid on the Via Quaranta mosque in Milan in November 2001. Investigators claimed that the terrorist cell encoded the images before sending them to each other


Link between child porn and Muslim terrorists discovered in police raids - Times Online

Well, correctly handled this is useful information to help discredit Jihadists in front of their own people. Hiding behind their religion with their fake piety, but actually pornographers and potential pedo's. I'm sure the Mullahs will love that.

Bit of a dream come true for the media though. Terrorists and paedophiles ! Gary Glitter is a terrorist. I imagine the NOTW, SUN etc having a field day.

So Osama is a paedo?

I can see that headline.

make a typo it is the only chance McCain has got!

It's a bit like the catholic church then?

Amen to that.

That peice reeks of government propaganda. paedo-terrorists are an easy group to demonise. I don't see why terrorists need to be demonised more but someone obviously wants to damage their reputation. Perhaps to put off young recruits....

edited.

People have been surrepticiously embedding messages in photo code for years.

What's new?

Download a photo, view the text version, search for a pre-determined sequence, follow the code.

Rookies.

“Here they are hating Western decadence but actually making use of it and finding that they enjoy this stuff.”

Western decadence......and finding that they enjoy this stuff.....LOL!

Sounds like another CIA WMD media scam.
Why on earth would terrorist organizations attempt to communicate via one of the Internets most scrutinized sections?

The terrorists are now paedophiles. Good spin prior to an election I guess.

So now you can log on to a terrorists site and get child porn downloads at the same time.........??????????

Wonder how many inquisitive harmless internet surfers are gonna get busted for being both Islamic terrorist sympathizers as well as the internet pedophiles.

So that must explain Pete Townsend's internet blooper. His not a child pervert after all only a closet Islamic terrorist.

Originally Posted by Panda

Sounds like another CIA WMD media scam.
Why on earth would terrorist organizations attempt to communicate via one of the Internets most scrutinized sections?

The terrorists are now paedophiles. Good spin prior to an election I guess.

Exactly right. It isn't even subtle propaganda.

^ Agreed. I wonder if it'll fool the Sun, NOTW, and the US equivalent?

Originally Posted by DrB0b

This is so stupid that I have no doubt millions of people will believe it

It's a sad sad world.

Outrage as cleric weds girl, 12


By Lucy Williamson
BBC News, Jakarta




A Muslim cleric has caused public outrage in Indonesia after marrying a 12-year-old girl.
Pujianto Cahyo Widianto married the girl in the central Java city of Semarang, during an unofficial religious ceremony.
He reportedly chose her from a pool of 20 girls, before flying to Singapore with his new bride, as well as his first wife.
Police have launched an investigation into the incident.
Possible charges
Investigators from Indonesia's child protection agency said Mr Widianto had chosen the girl based on her intelligence, maturity and physical development.
They said Mr Widianto, who runs an Islamic boarding school, had planned to put the child in charge of his second business - a calligraphy workshop.
It is unclear if the marriage has been consummated. If it has, Mr Widianto could face charges under child protection, marriage and labour laws.
He is reported to have justified his actions by saying he was emulating Islam's Prophet Muhammad, and that he would wait until his wife reached puberty before having sex with her. But there has been fierce reaction to the marriage within Indonesia.
A senior member of the prominent Islamic party, PKS, said he thought Mr Widianto was wrong in what he was doing, and wrong in his thinking about Islam.
Police say they have not asked Singapore to extradite the cleric, but are continuing investigations.

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Not sure of this is the right thread but a 12 year old bride puts it close enough !

It may well be that the cops meant that terrorists were using the i2p and Onion networks to pass info. Both of those are pretty much unknown to the masses, heavily used by pedos, and have lots of pedo sites on them. It's more than possible that the average journo, on hearing this, will immediately make a terrorists = pedos link. After all terrorists and pedos are the staple diet of the English press.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

After all terrorists and pedos are the staple diet of the English press.

Absolutely. Well said.

^^^No, it's not the right thread. After all the age of consent in much of Mexico is 12, 12 in the Phillipines, 13 in Japan, and so on. It's bugger all to do with Islam or terrorism.

Something went very wrong.

Here's the link. Some disturbing stuff


A table of worldwide ages of consent, including US states

Originally Posted by DrB0b

No, it's not the right thread. After all the age of consent in much of Mexico is 12, 12 in the Phillipines, 13 in Japan, and so on. It's bugger all to do with Islam or terrorism.

So we could talk about fucking a 12-year-old Mexican girl and all would be kosher, but utter those words in Thailand and you're a pervert?

Somethin' don't add up, Bob.

Just because all my neighbors eat durian, don't mean it doesn't smell like an unwashed asshole.

Absolutely. That's the absurdity of it all. Look at the post above ^^. It's insane.