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Old 04-02-2010, 05:57 PM   #126 (permalink)
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More on O'Keefe,..........

And now O’Keefe is being media-lynched again! Shocking!
His right-wing admirers don’t seem to mind that O’Keefe’s short but storied career has been defined by a series of political stunts shot through with racial resentment. Now an activist organization that monitors hate groups has produced a photo of O’Keefe at a 2006 conference on “Race and Conservatism” that featured leading white nationalists. The photo, first published Jan. 30 on the Web site of the anti-racism group One People’s Project, shows O’Keefe at the gathering, which was so controversial even the ultra-right Leadership Institute, which employed O’Keefe at the time, withdrew its backing. But O’Keefe and fellow young conservative provocateur Marcus Epstein soldiered on to give anti-Semites, professional racists and proponents of Aryanism an opportunity to share their grievances and plans to make inroads in the GOP.

Whoa, a young Republican activist turns out to be a racist? Run that on page 1, under the equally shocking "Dog Bites Man" article.

The poll you posted above is very troubling, although I think some of the numbers are a bit skewed. For example, the final question about teaching Genesis- that sort of thing might be true among Republicans in the south (Dixie's "party of Lincoln" supporters), but the defeat of "intelligent design" supporters in the famous case in mostly Republican Devon, PA suggests that among Pennsylvania Republicans, at least, that number should be a lot higher than 15%.

Still, even if the numbers in the poll are significantly off it is enough to make me rethink my assessment of Republican sanity. I used to think the Republicans were 60% misguided but sane, and 40% crazy/racist/bible thumping authoritarians. I think I might have had that backward, at best. Honestly, how many non-crazy Republican congresscritters remain? Maybe it depends on the definition of "crazy"- senators like Inhofe and DeMint make people like Huckleberry Graham and Orrin Hatch look even-keeled (Hatch isn't too bad, actually, although there is something inherently crazy about Mormonism, even if you are born to it).
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Do you believe Sarah Palin is more qualified to be President than Barack Obama?
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i don't hold most modern day republicans in very high regard, but this is truly amazing.

only 14% think obama is more qualified to be president than palin.

honestly, what is the matter with these people?

it's fine to have disagreements on policy..... and even political personalities.

but for them to simply disregard all the evidence to the contrary, simply because she's got a 'folksy' shtick (and he's black), is mind numbing.

well, i hope 86% of them vote for her in the iowa straw poll and then the primaries and caucuses, because all it will do is guarantee another term for obama.
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i don't hold most modern day republicans in very high regard, but this is truly amazing.

only 14% think obama is more qualified to be president than palin.

honestly, what is the matter with these people?

it's fine to have disagreements on policy..... and even political personalities.

but for them to simply disregard all the evidence to the contrary, simply because she's got a 'folksy' shtick (and he's black), is mind numbing.

well, i hope 86% of them vote for her in the iowa straw poll and then the primaries and caucuses, because all it will do is guarantee another term for obama.
Good discussion of the phenomenon that drives the fortunes of people such as Palin:
BBC News - Why do people vote against their own interests?
"For Mr Westen, stories always trump statistics, which means the politician with the best stories is going to win: "One of the fallacies that politicians often have on the Left is that things are obvious, when they are not obvious.
"Obama's administration made a tremendous mistake by not immediately branding the economic collapse that we had just had as the Republicans' Depression, caused by the Bush administration's ideology of unregulated greed. The result is that now people blame him."
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You poor, poor libbies. What is it you want your party to do? Take over the nation so you can collect welfare or work at a union job? Do you forget the Union side of the Civil War and Lincoln as the Prez were REPUBLICAN? (Don't forget, Martin Luther King Jr was a registered GOPer, too.) Do you not see that the Dems keep ethnic groups down by giving them handouts instead of pushing them out of the nest and making them sink or swim? Look at bamboy's budget for this year. WTF? You guys think spending will fix the probs? You cannot be that stupid. Security is feked -- the natl sec folks are "certain" another terrorist attack is imminent in 3-6 mos, Rahm is above the people spewing mental retard statements (oh, yes, sorry, he did make a lame apology) and AG Holder is doing whatever the fek he wants.
Wake up, American libbies! bamboy and his gang are raping your country. Oh, but go on talking about Palin. Fek, you must be so threatened by her. What a bunch of cockroaches.
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The poll you posted above is very troubling, although I think some of the numbers are a bit skewed. For example, the final question about teaching Genesis- that sort of thing might be true among Republicans in the south (Dixie's "party of Lincoln" supporters), but the defeat of "intelligent design" supporters in the famous case in mostly Republican Devon, PA suggests that among Pennsylvania Republicans, at least, that number should be a lot higher than 15%.
shhh

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NE 217 11%
SOUTH 846 42%
MW 437 22%
WEST 503 25%
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The poll you posted above is very troubling, although I think some of the numbers are a bit skewed. For example, the final question about teaching Genesis- that sort of thing might be true among Republicans in the south (Dixie's "party of Lincoln" supporters), but the defeat of "intelligent design" supporters in the famous case in mostly Republican Devon, PA suggests that among Pennsylvania Republicans, at least, that number should be a lot higher than 15%.
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MW 437 22%
WEST 503 25%
Yes, you're right. Nixon's southern strategy worked out so well.
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You poor, poor libbies.
You are very boring nowadays. That is about the worst insult I can think of really. Sorry Jet.

Until you come up with something witty or original again I can see no point whatsoever in responding to the rubbish that you continue to regurgitate onto the forum.

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Andrew Sullivan has some intelligent things to say about the above poll here:
What Today's Republicans Believe - The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan
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Oh, but go on talking about Palin. Fek, you must be so threatened by her. What a bunch of cockroaches.
You make a lot of generalizations. Try using specifics.

As for Palin, many GOPers want her gone, and for good reason.

I assuem - and hope - you know what I'm talking about.
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Jet sounds like one of those, erm, conservatives (can't be a Republican because she's a Canadian with an almost unhealthy obsession with US politics) who may not like Palin that much herself but who does like the idea that Palin bothers liberals. Anything that pisses off your political adversaries is OK, right Jet?
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You are very boring nowadays. That is about the worst insult I can think of really. Sorry Jet.
Aww. Don't wanna play anymore, now that bamboy and his party are going down the tubes?
I can tell the libbies here are getting agitated. Which of your incumbents is gonna crash and burn next? There are so many to choose from.
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Jet sounds like one of those, erm, conservatives (can't be a Republican because she's a Canadian with an almost unhealthy obsession with US politics) who may not like Palin that much herself but who does like the idea that Palin bothers liberals. Anything that pisses off your political adversaries is OK, right Jet?
Aww, again. Yep, very interested in what this fekwit Obama is doing to the country my forefathers fought for in every war from the Revolution onwards. (Oh, and BTW, your Jap translation for the war memorial was pretty sloppy.)

Milkie, generalised comments? Funny. Palin is a threat because she is a wild card. The GOP can't ignore her, but what to do with her? That's why she's gone her own way. She has her firm ideals and beliefs, and fek anyone who tries to change her. Good on her. She never got a free pass like bamboy did.

Saw Jon Stewart on O'Reilly tonight, and he figures folks are no diff if they live in Wasilla or some big city (forget where he said; I was getting bored). I then just saw Jon as Joel Fleishman (sp) in Northern Exposure. 55555555
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You are very boring nowadays. That is about the worst insult I can think of really.
You know, those are my thoughts exactly about the leftists magpies around here. I chose to use the word 'uninspired'. I'm really not inspired enough to respond and I can't think of a worse insult than being uninspired by their efforts.

But hey, it's a pub, so I converse with the people I choose to converse with.
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Rethugs,.now and in the future……..

Maybe one out of a job soon, because of her own batshit crazy idea,………….I’m not going to complete that Census.


As the Strib editorialized recently:

It's ironic that a Minnesota member of Congress, Republican Michele Bachmann, went so far last summer to declare her intention to only partially complete her census forms, and to suggest reasons for others not to comply with the census law. If Minnesota loses a congressional seat, Bachmann's populous Sixth District could be carved into pieces. She likely would have to battle another incumbent to hang on to her seat. We've noticed that her anticensus rhetoric has lately ceased. We hope she got wise: Census compliance is not only in Minnesota's best interest, but also her own.



Link: http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2010/02/video_of_the_da_25.php

Link: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/18/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5095844.shtml
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What are you worried about? She could lose her district.

She's POed about ACORN, too. The thugs who get more money now than ever. I like your antique article from June 2009.
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Palin in her speech last night. Italics mine:
""I think, kind of tougher to, um, put our arms around, but allowing America's spirit to rise again by not being afraid to kind of go back to some of our roots as a God fearing nation where we're not afraid to say, especially in times of potential trouble in the future here, where we're not afraid to say, you know, we don't have all the answers as fallible men and women so it would be wise of us to start seeking some divine intervention again in this country, so that we can be safe and secure and prosperous again. To have people involved in government who aren't afraid to go that route, not so afraid of the political correctness that you know -- they have to be afraid of what the media said about them if they were to proclaim their alliance on our creator."
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^ Got a linkie, o-mae?
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Yeah, Robuzo, where is that from?
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Palin: 'It Would Be Wise of Us To Start Seeking Some Divine Intervention in This Country Again' | Video Cafe
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^ Ooh, Video Cafe, sister site to crooks and liars. Thanks, o-mae. Good link.
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just out of curiosity, why do you need a link?

didn't you watch her speech and phony Q and A session? you've made several posts about it.

surely you're not posting about something you don't have any knowledge of...surely not.
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just out of curiosity, why do you need a link?

didn't you watch her speech and phony Q and A session? you've made several posts about it.

surely you're not posting about something you don't have any knowledge of...surely not.
Nope. But o-mae is so sloppy, I have to ensure he posts links so other folks know the information is credible.
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A new poll out,………….


A substantial 44 percent of Americans say Obama himself is doing “too little” to compromise with the Republican leaders in Congress on important issues. But while that’s hardly ideal, the GOP leaders do worse; 58 percent of Americans say they’re not trying hard enough. Even among Republicans, a surprising 44 percent say their own leaders aren’t doing enough to cooperate.

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While jobs and the economy remain the big kahuna in public priorities, health care’s an example in which cooperation could help. The current plan, minted by Obama and the Democrats, never has achieved majority support. Yet that doesn’t mean the public likes the current system: Americans by nearly a 2-1 margin in this poll, 63-34 percent, want lawmakers in Washington to keep trying to pass comprehensive health care reform, not to give up on it.

Again, though, the devil’s in the partisan details. While a vast 88 percent of Democrats want lawmakers to keep pushing on comprehensive reform, just half as many Republicans, 42 percent, agree. The tie-breaker, as usual, goes to independents; 56 percent in this group want to see Obama and the Congress keep trying to pass a comprehensive reform plan.

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Conversely, 72 percent of Democrats say the leaders of the GOP have done too little to compromise, and 56 percent of independents say the same. As noted, 44 percent of Republicans criticize their own party’s leaders for non-cooperation.

Link: http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenumbers/2010/02/on-bipartisanship-room-for-improvement.html
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A substantial 44 percent of Americans say Obama himself is doing “too little” to compromise with the Republican leaders in Congress on important issues. But while that’s hardly ideal, the GOP leaders do worse; 58 percent of Americans say they’re not trying hard enough. Even among Republicans, a surprising 44 percent say their own leaders aren’t doing enough to cooperate.

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While jobs and the economy remain the big kahuna in public priorities, health care’s an example in which cooperation could help. The current plan, minted by Obama and the Democrats, never has achieved majority support. Yet that doesn’t mean the public likes the current system: Americans by nearly a 2-1 margin in this poll, 63-34 percent, want lawmakers in Washington to keep trying to pass comprehensive health care reform, not to give up on it.

Again, though, the devil’s in the partisan details. While a vast 88 percent of Democrats want lawmakers to keep pushing on comprehensive reform, just half as many Republicans, 42 percent, agree. The tie-breaker, as usual, goes to independents; 56 percent in this group want to see Obama and the Congress keep trying to pass a comprehensive reform plan.

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Conversely, 72 percent of Democrats say the leaders of the GOP have done too little to compromise, and 56 percent of independents say the same. As noted, 44 percent of Republicans criticize their own party’s leaders for non-cooperation.

Link: http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenumbers/2010/02/on-bipartisanship-room-for-improvement.html
Tony Blankley, commentator for the right at Washington Times, made the point the other day on Left, Right and Center that "bipartisanship" is an unreasonable and in fact bogus concept. When the interests of politicians/parties are seen to coincide, they cooperate, otherwise they don't. The Republic Party, or at least its leadership and a large chunk of the base, sees destroying the Obama presidency as in their interests. They probably see the political turmoil and continuing economic difficulty as in their interests- things getting better for the average voter in the US would only serve to strengthen Obama's hand. The Republic Party doesn't have the interests of the country at heart, and shouldn't really be expected. Good faith on their part is not a reasonable expectation.
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:27 AM   #149 (permalink)
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A new poll out,………….
A substantial 44 percent of Americans say Obama himself is doing “too little” to compromise with the Republican leaders in Congress on important issues.
And another one today:

[IMG]file:///C:/Users/MR/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.png[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:/Users/MR/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-2.png[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:/Users/MR/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-3.png[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:/Users/MR/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-4.png[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:/Users/MR/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-5.png[/IMG]Among registered voters in this ABC News/Washington Post poll, 48 percent say they'd support the Republican candidate in their congressional district if the midterm elections were today, 45 percent the Democrat.

Pls check the PDF file below for various charts.

Republican Rise, Doubts About Obama and Economy: ABC News Poll - ABC News

Republican Rise, Doubts About Obama and Economy: ABC News Poll - ABC News

Face it, the public is angry and it's only the start of bamboy's second year.
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The Republic Party doesn't have the interests of the country at heart, and shouldn't really be expected. Good faith on their part is not a reasonable expectation.
Republican opposition to Obama's social democrat agenda, an agenda even a super majority Democrat Congress couldn't agree on does not translate to Republicans being obstructionists.

When Democrats did it to Bush, it's considered patriotic dissent. 'Republican dissent is malicious based. They hate America.' Have I got the DNC's talking points correct?


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Axelrod accused the GOP of "rooting for failure."

"They made a decision they were going to sit it out and hope that we failed -- that the country failed," he said.

Until now, he suggested, Obama has been too gentle. "They didn't pay enough of a price for what was a determined strategy not to work with us," he said.

Now, "they either work with us or they have to pay the price for working against us."

Obama's strategy: Blame the other guys - Los Angeles Times
Democrat failure does not equal the nation's failure. The nation does not revolve around the Democrat Party. The nation is not dependent on the Democrat Party for its existence. To think so and to say so is the thinking of a narcissistic petulant juvenile.

Having read what Axelrod said, it's clear Obama's call for a health care summit to work on the existing bills is a trap. The two HC bills are bad bills and they have failed. The Democrats could not get it done. Now on Feb 25th Obama is looking to drag the Republicans into the failed mess so he can attribute blame to them. Why should the Republicans get involved with an existing failed bad bill for the sake of Democrat expediency? Like they say bin the bill, start over.

The White House notified Republican leadership about the Feb 25 health care summit one hour before making the public announcement. They did not state what's on the agenda or who would be attending, only that it would be televised. The 'ram it through Democrats should be trusted?

It really is juvenile of the Democrats. The Feb 25 trap connotes treachery. Juvenile, narcissistic, petulant and treacherous. What a bunch the Democrats are. And you wonder why blue collar Democrats and independents show up at Tea Party events?
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