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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    GFA, buriramboy, that's what you appear to be missing.

    Rumours are that Davis could resign over this issue today, which would be quite tragic for Brexit. I will be rather amused if he manages to pluck up the courage to stick to his principles. Any end date imposed will, of course, be rejected by the EU so he may as well.

    Brexit really wasn't thought through at all...
    First time I expect to hear someone resign citing their own incompetence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    GFA, buriramboy, that's what you appear to be missing.

    Rumours are that Davis could resign over this issue today, which would be quite tragic for Brexit. I will be rather amused if he manages to pluck up the courage to stick to his principles. Any end date imposed will, of course, be rejected by the EU so he may as well.

    Brexit really wasn't thought through at all...
    Brexit was thought through but as often repeated we have Doris a remoaner as PM with a load of remoaner advisors who don't actually want to Brexit or in name only. Hence a change of leadership is required as in a PM with energy and vision. No one is arguing Doris has made a clusterfuk of everything, making concession after concession for nothing in return. Sooner she goes the better either pushed or resign I don't care, give me Moggy, Gove or even Boris as PM, anyone is preferable to Doris.

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    so what makes you think Brexit will happen if they intentionally put Maybot in place to sabotage it ?

    it's quite probable that the next remplacement PM will have the same exit strategy, that is Brexit in name only

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    so what makes you think Brexit will happen if they intentionally put Maybot in place to sabotage it ?

    it's quite probable that the next remplacement PM will have the same exit strategy, that is Brexit in name only
    Brexit is going to happen of that there is no doubt but under Doris it's looking like name only as Remoaners are now in control hence change is needed and rapidly. But ignoring Brexit she is a useless PM, no vision or energy for the UK. She isn't someone people can get behind, as much as I couldn't stand Tony B-liar I will always give credit where it's due and he could galvanize his base and had energy and a message/vision however misguided, but Doris offers nothing. Even hard core Tories must be struggling to get behind her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Brexit was thought through but as often repeated we have Doris a remoaner as PM with a load of remoaner advisors who don't actually want to Brexit or in name only. Hence a change of leadership is required as in a PM with energy and vision. No one is arguing Doris has made a clusterfuk of everything, making concession after concession for nothing in return. Sooner she goes the better either pushed or resign I don't care, give me Moggy, Gove or even Boris as PM, anyone is preferable to Doris.
    Agree with most of it, but resignation and handover aren't always a formality, esp with current levels of political incompetence, could result in an election and as things stand that would give Corbyn his best shot at glory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    resignation and handover aren't always a formality
    Quite the opposite.

    The job is a poisoned chalice at the moment. The only feasible PM would have to be someone of proven incompetence who knows he has no long-term future in the position.

    Oh, actually, that leaves Gove, Davies and Johnson as possibilities.

    Gove seems probably the only one who'd kill for the limelight even if it were only for a few months.

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    ^ It really doesn't matter who is in charge as they all know that a hard Brexit would be an economic and political disaster. All solutions appear to end up more expensive with less clout.

    If it was going to be as simple as the ballot paper suggested it would have happened already. The very fact that the maybot became PM shows that it was a disaster from the start. Everyone was hoping that remain would win so they could continue blaming the EU for their incompetence.

    Now their incompetence is there for all to see and enjoy.

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    ^ indeed

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    nonsense.

    both sides are still playing bluff and counter bluff, jockeying for position and staring each other out.

    like every other eu agreement ever, the final deal will not be stamped and signed until 11.59pm on the final day and the self congratulatory gurning loons on both sides of the table will declare it a victory.

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    that's why I support Hard Brexit

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    ^

    yes.

    bring it on, and leave the germans and the french to deal with the rising levels of debt, discontent and rising tide of islam that will bring the whole f*cking house down brick by brick before too long.

    brussels, with their constant meddling, the germans with their need to dominate and the french with their selfish arrogance have slowly ruined what could and should have been a great trading relationship that would have benefited all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    ^

    yes.

    bring it on, and leave the germans and the french to deal with the rising levels of debt, discontent and rising tide of islam that will bring the whole f*cking house down brick by brick before too long.

    brussels, with their constant meddling, the germans with their need to dominate and the french with their selfish arrogance have slowly ruined what could and should have been a great trading relationship that would have benefited all.
    The whole Islam thing spouted by Quitlings does make me chuckle, it's beyond dim. To combat the rise of Islam they vote for something that will result in the need for closer ties to commonwealth countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh. Personally, I'm all for it- the right wing tears will be bloody funny to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    ^

    yes.

    bring it on, and leave the germans and the french to deal with the rising levels of debt, discontent and rising tide of islam that will bring the whole f*cking house down brick by brick before too long.

    brussels, with their constant meddling, the germans with their need to dominate and the french with their selfish arrogance have slowly ruined what could and should have been a great trading relationship that would have benefited all.
    then why are you complaining ? don't you support Hard Brexit, tax ?

    try to be consistent with your wishes, tax

    EU without the UK will be a better EU, period

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    The maybot has decided not to publish the UK post Brexit trade proposals until after the EU summit later this month. No doubt they will be filling in the hitherto blank sheets for her.

    The incompetency of the current UK government is quite priceless.

    Brexit means Brexit...

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    Unless you are an exporter it looks like project fear is becoming project reality. Best businesses to be in would be export or asset liquidation

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    nonsense.

    both sides are still playing bluff and counter bluff, jockeying for position and staring each other out.

    like every other eu agreement ever, the final deal will not be stamped and signed until 11.59pm on the final day and the self congratulatory gurning loons on both sides of the table will declare it a victory.

    Have all your fucking brains turned to mush now Tax?

    You're talking like a fucking northern pin head with a fucking whippet up his arse. Look, you gormless air-headed, cloth eared, clog footed, spasticated, twat - brained fuckwit, the fucking deal has to be done by October so that the 27 EU countries can fucking ratify it. You crazy mofo congenital dickheads are so blighted by gormless rhetoric that you actually begin to believe your stupid propaganda that Brussels is a fucking self contained entity ruling Europe like some fucking Dark Star invader colony from the planet Zog.

    And you were supposed to be a fucking dentist?

    Christ on a bike, Tax, you're so fucked up I'm suprised you could have pulled a binte out of a brothel, never mind a fucking tooth.

    Get your head out of your arse, you silly tit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    Unless you are an exporter it looks like project fear is becoming project reality. Best businesses to be in would be export or asset liquidation
    Look, 8.5% of Britain's GDP is derived from manufacturing, 50% of which is sourced from trade with the EU. This commerce is predominately represented by the export of machinery, vehicles and pharmaceuticals but of great significance is the fact that 10% of all VAT registered SMEs export and import products from the EU.

    If the sclerotic scrawny hag May and her warring political pygmies in her cabinet permit Britain to fall out of the EU sans a deal but on WTO terms then the effects will be catastrophic involving the collapse of the currency, mass bankruptcies, raging stagflation within a year and the contraction of the economy by at least 3%.

    Brexit will cripple the UK for at least a decade but in truth an entire generation will be blighted. And if the EU did fail because of the combined effects of US, Chinese and Russian hegemonies undermining it and fomenting conflict then the misery would be compounded a hundredfold.

    It's increasingly a more uncertain world but one thing is certainly for sure, Britain is heading for the toilet no matter what happens.

    Thank fuck I don't live there anymore and had the sense to denominate some of my wealth in baht. The UK stock market will be a shooting gallery for carpetbaggers looking for cheap deals but the real kicker will be the ravages of inflation unmatched by wages frozen by corporate slave masters exploiting the masses and government income policies throttling 6 million public sector workers.

    Fucking austerity will seem like a fucking picnic compared to the shite to be showered on 30 million Brits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Look, 8.5% of Britain's GDP is derived from manufacturing, 50% of which is sourced from trade with the EU. This commerce is predominately represented by the export of machinery, vehicles and pharmaceuticals but of great significance is the fact that 10% of all VAT registered SMEs export and import products from the EU.

    If the sclerotic scrawny hag May and her warring political pygmies in her cabinet permit Britain to fall out of the EU sans a deal but on WTO terms then the effects will be catastrophic involving the collapse of the currency, mass bankruptcies, raging stagflation within a year and the contraction of the economy by at least 3%.

    Brexit will cripple the UK for at least a decade but in truth an entire generation will be blighted. And if the EU did fail because of the combined effects of US, Chinese and Russian hegemonies undermining it and fomenting conflict then the misery would be compounded a hundredfold.

    It's increasingly a more uncertain world but one thing is certainly for sure, Britain is heading for the toilet no matter what happens.

    Thank fuck I don't live there anymore and had the sense to denominate some of my wealth in baht. The UK stock market will be a shooting gallery for carpetbaggers looking for cheap deals but the real kicker will be the ravages of inflation unmatched by wages frozen by corporate slave masters exploiting the masses and government income policies throttling 6 million public sector workers.

    Fucking austerity will seem like a fucking picnic compared to the shite to be showered on 30 million Brits.
    It’s all blind supposition. Just like your suggestion of parity with the dollar.
    Im certain your heart will implode f you continue to expand your lexicon of insults. You’re frustrated just a little bit aren’t you gent?

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    ^ I think the blind supposition is coming from the Brexit camp. They do realise that the UK is not actually a member of the WTO in its own right anymore but via the EU...

    ..and services, the UKs biggest market is not subject to WTO

    ...and the majority of the muslims in the UK are not from the EU.

    The maybot continually mentions the three red lines that must be met because the referendum demands them. It's as if her backstop is that if any cannot be met the UK will remain in the EU and she is determined to make sure they cannot all be met.

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    Leave.EU 'downplayed Russian links'
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44428115

    and it's getting better with that circus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    ^ I think the blind supposition is coming from the Brexit camp. They do realise that the UK is not actually a member of the WTO in its own right anymore but via the EU...

    ..and services, the UKs biggest market is not subject to WTO

    ...and the majority of the muslims in the UK are not from the EU.

    The maybot continually mentions the three red lines that must be met because the referendum demands them. It's as if her backstop is that if any cannot be met the UK will remain in the EU and she is determined to make sure they cannot all be met.
    Sorry Troy but wtf has the origin of Muslims in UK got to do with anything?

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    A recap of previous episodes and what's coming, for those who can't keep track anymore

    Brexit: Key dates and potential hurdles
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44374613

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Brexit: Key dates and potential hurdles
    what are the odds makers saying if it'll happen on this day?

    i'm guessing it'll happen.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44374613

    2019


    • 29 March, at 2300 GMT - The UK to leave the EU.



    • 31 December 2020 If all goes to plan, a transition period will last until midnight on this date

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    I can't see Britain leaving the EU within a reasonable time frame or other than in disarray, too many loose ends, a laughable set of leaders for such a critical operation, and the future looks increasingly bleak for the next generation/s.

    Under current levels of political duplicity and ineptitude, I suspect that many of May's concessions will be deliberately concealed, to be revealed piecemeal as a string of obligations foisted on the Brits by a failing EU, each time a known set of burdens is acquitted.

    No consolation at all that the EU cannot survive, that it must fragment, probably within the next decade, and with terrible consequences for all, which includes Britain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Sorry Troy but wtf has the origin of Muslims in UK got to do with anything?
    Seriously???!!


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