Why does this thread stop at page 129 this afternoon when this morning there were posts on page 130?
Why does this thread stop at page 129 this afternoon when this morning there were posts on page 130?
^Completion backwards principle...big ploplem 'round here
The lawyer for President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn met Monday morning with members of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team, the latest indication that both sides are discussing a possible plea deal, ABC News has learned.
Michael Flynn's lawyer meets with members of special counsel's team, raising specter of plea deal - ABC News
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my guess is that mueller has the son dead to rights.
Roger Stone's link to Wikileaks has been uncovered and must appear before the House Intelligence Committee next month.
Comedian Is Subpoenaed in Inquiry on Russia Meddling
A longtime outsider in New York State politics has been identified as the link between WikiLeaks and Roger J. Stone Jr., an adviser to Donald J. Trump who appears to have had advance knowledge about hacked emails related to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.
The outsider, Randy Credico, a comedian who has frequently run for office, posted on Twitter on Tuesday that he had received a subpoena requiring him to appear before the House Intelligence Committee next month. The panel is investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 campaign.
Mr. Credico could not be reached on Wednesday for comment.
MORE https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/u...-meddling.html
Manafort strikes $11 million bail deal with prosecutors
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...million-271762
Will he disappear?
I'd imagine the thought has probably crossed his mind but might be near on impossible for him at this point.
Well, there we are. Jeff Sessions making excuses for not answering.
Top Intel Dem: Sessions refused to say whether Trump asked him to hinder Russia probe
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/362599-top-intel-dem-says-sessions-refused-to-say-whether-trump-asked-him-to-hinder
he wasn't charged with anything to do with the russian/trump conspiracy theory, so this story has nothing to do with the topic of the thread, except, i guess possible genuine interest in what eventually happens to manafort.
stone had told the senate committee that he got the wikileaks info from an old friend and now we know who the friend is.
for those, who have a hard time keeping up with this conspiracy theory that trump colluded with the russians to defeat hillary, stone getting info about what wikileaks was about to release from an old friend doesn't show a conspiracy.
though, i guess if you're really, really hoping there is a conspiracy between trump and the russians, any little news like this will get your hopes up.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...s-roger-stone/
Mr. Stone confirmed the identity of his WikiLeaks intermediary in a Facebook post Thursday morning after news reports indicated that Mr. Credico was the missing link between the president’s former campaign adviser and the website that published thousands of emails during the 2016 race damaging to his rival, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.
Mr. Stone predicted WikiLeaks would release Clinton documents prior to last year’s publication, and the House Intelligence Committee investigating the election threatened to subpoena him over the identify of his source.
Mr. Stone ultimately complied with request last month, according to his attorney, and Mr. Credicotweeted on Tuesday this week that he received a subpoena to testify before the House Intelligence Committee on Dec. 15.
“Randy Credico is a good man,” Mr. Stone said Thursday. “The Committee is wasting their time. He merely confirmed what Assangehad said publicly. He was correct. WikiLeaks did have the goods on Hillary, and they did release them.”
Well unless you've seen the actual evidence against him, you have no idea why he was charged with "conspiracy against the United States", which would certainly cover working with the Russians to undermine Clinton's campaign, wouldn't it?
Not to mention that he was at that meeting at orange cunto tower with orange cunto's idiot son, which puts him smack in the middle of the investigation.
So basically you're talking out of your arse again.
Yes, he was. The best you could say in his defense is he hasn't been charged with any direct connection to a POTUS/ Russian conspiracy. Indicted as an un-registered agent of the Russian backed Ukrainians nulls your point, even more so when his role on the Trump campaign is considered.
Last edited by uncle junior; 01-12-2017 at 01:02 PM.
no, it wouldn't and harry i'd like to see you provide a link to any respectable news organization, saying that the the "conspiracy against the United States" has anything to do with the "the Russians to undermine Clinton's campaign".
harry, i have to say that you are very good at calling posters who you disagree with "stupid", etc.
but, your ability to comprehend the news stories that you make hundreds of posts about every month is obviously very weak (note that i'm not calling you stupid).
harry, you can search the 12 count indictment for the word "conspiracy" yourself:Manafort Indictment: What is Conspiracy Against the U.S.? | Time
The Office of the Special Counsel indicted Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort and his longtime business associate Rick Gates on 12 counts. The first was “conspiracy against the United States.”
But what exactly does that mean? While it’s a common term circulated in the legal profession, it’s less well known to the general public.
The description may sound a bit alarming, but the count is fairly common in federal cases, legal experts say.
“This is not novel by any stretch,” says Bill Mateja, who worked in Department of Justice as a prosecutor during the George W. Bush administration and now works in white collar defense law at the law firm Polsinelli. “I will tell you almost every notable big federal case has got a conspiracy count.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.d3f35b36b4a9
(Conspiracy Against The United States)
37. Paragraphs 1 through 30 and 32 through 36 are incorporated here.
38. From in or about and between 2006 and 2017, both dates being approximate and inclusive, in the District of Columbia and elsewhere, the defendants PAUL J. MANAFORT, JR., and RICHARD W. GATES III, together with others, knowingly and intentionally conspired to defraud the United States by impeding, impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful governmental functions of a government agency, namely the Department of Justice and the Department of the Treasury, and to commit offenses against the United States, to wit, the violations of law charged in Counts Three through Six and Ten through Twelve.Manafort Indictment: What is Conspiracy Against the U.S.? | Time
Typically, the sentence for conspiracy against the United States is dependent upon the charges relating to that conspiracy; in this case thats failing to report their overseas bank accounts and failing to register as foreign agents.
The civil penalty for willing failing to report a foreign bank account, for instance, can be a fine as high as $100,000. A criminal penalty can result in a maximum fine of $250,000 and/or five years in prison.
Last edited by Farangrakthai; 01-12-2017 at 01:36 PM.
Selective editing and highlighting is a feeble way of trying to avoid the truth. Look at the actual definition again:
As I said, you haven't seen the evidence, you don't know what Manafort is going to say about the Russia meetings to get himself off the hook, and in actual fact you are the one desperately hoping that this isn't going to lead to orange cunto being impeached.
"If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."According to the US Department of Justice's website, the statute covers activities that "affect the government in at least one of three ways":
- They cheat the government out of money or property;
- They interfere or obstruct legitimate Government activity; or
- They make wrongful use of a governmental instrumentality.
As I've said many times, it will be money laundering that brings orange cunto down if anything. The destination of that oligarch's $55 million that went to orange cunto has yet to be announced.
go on then, harry (i'm waiting for the link):
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no, it wouldn't and harry i'd like to see you provide a link to any respectable news organization, saying that the the "conspiracy against the United States" charge has anything to do with the "the Russians to undermine Clinton's campaign".
Again: None of them can say anything with any certainty without seeing the evidence against him, can they?
Which is moot, because if he decides singing like a canary is preferable to trying not to drop the soap in the prison shower, the charges against him may move onto someone else.
You just don't see the big picture do you? I bet Mueller does.
For example, we do know that Manafort was laundering money through Bank of Cyprus whose former vice-chairman was made Secretary of Commerce..... by Orange Cunto.
I actually don't really care about the "collusion" story; I think it's a means to an end. I don't think that's where the real meat is on this bone. I've said all along: Follow the Money.
so, you can't find a link to support what you're thinking about the indictment, right?
yes, one can look at the indictment to see what he was charged with and it's nothing to do with the conspiracy theory that russia colluded with trump to defeat hillary.
fair enough.
so, what do you think the title of that thread should be?
So there are actually some people who believe the RUSSIA DID IT CNN talking point bollocks then? So gullible. Clinton caught out, so she points the blame as the rooooskies and all the nodding donkeys swallow it up, absolving her of her crimes, and get their panties in a twist over dem commies.
and here you are doing it again, promoting loon conspiracy theory on your gut feeling
the Russian thing is a myth, everyone knows it, even the majority of Americans (who no longer believes in 911 official story btw) knows it
only loons like you believe in stupid crap like that, Mueller is chasing ghosts, his reputation is on the line, he needs to deliver something, anything
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