* Will try again...
Crowdstrike is a highly rated company that provides threat intelligence and incident response. Their president is an ex-FBI Assistant Director and they have top technical staff from companies like McAfee, well experienced in advanced persistent threats from state actors.
It wasn't just Crowdstrike that saw the data either; Mandiant and ThreatConnect did also. These are some of the top threat intelligence firms in the world, and they are generally staffed with ex-intelligence employees.
In reading the links you are posting, all of them ignore critical facts, such as the fact that the DNC gave the FBI copies of the servers, not the servers themselves, and the Comey was happy with the Crowdstrike report - probably because Crowdstrike were under contract to the FBI at the time, so they already knew what they were about.
No-one in the industry does attribution on their own, and it is rarely done quickly. The indicators will have been shared around with other agencies, who have their own intel on Russian attacks.
All of your links are opinion pieces, and they are all smear jobs.
So it's a bit like you saying, in the other thread, that you're no fan of Putin, but then posting a carefully selected piece of a massive Putin arselick piece from a pro-Russian website.
Clearly you have an agenda, but as such you have yet to offer anything tangible.
So, there's tons of things going on in DC...
Where is trump today?
Going golfing in Florida, again.....
Thank fuck there's nothing serious going on that needs his attention.
MK #4125
There is proof of the former but not the latter.
I'll say it again... "Russians" may not be the correct term to use for this entire debacle. Which goes back to the execution of the Romanovs.
Right 'arry, I'm a massive Putin arselicker. Mmmmm...Putin arse tastes like chikin.
The question is, whose arse does Putin lick?
edit: How do we know for sure, that many(or all) of these supposed Russians interfering in our process, aren't US Dept. of Defense "managed personas?"
Last edited by SKkin; 17-02-2018 at 11:08 PM.
Because that would be unamerican.
harry is a fucking idiot, and a clueless one, he will buy anything you tell him, as long as it has the right stamp on it
for as long as you've been posting on thai forums, you've been spouting wacky, crackpot conspiracy theories...and now there is verifiable evidence of an actual conspiracy....and not only do you not believe it...you actively try to play it down.
what a dope.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...17014?lo=ap_a1a complex web of Russian organizations and agents executed a years-long scheme to undermine our elections—first to sow chaos, conflict and doubt into our electoral system and then specifically to support Donald Trump and oppose Hillary Clinton. These are not vague allegations; over 37 pages, the indictment lays out in careful detail a step-by-step scheme involving identity theft, fake accounts, carefully orchestrated trips and outreach, a concerted social media strategy and even real live rallies across the United States secretly planned from Russia.
Last edited by raycarey; 17-02-2018 at 11:59 PM.
Oops, I reckon the old P45 bomber will be circling when baldy orange cunto gets wind of this...
Donald Trump’s national security adviser, HR McMaster, said on Saturday that Russian meddling in the 2016 election is “incontrovertible” and “beyond dispute” in the wake of new US indictments.
McMaster spoke after Robert Mueller, the special counsel in the Russia investigation, revealed new details about Moscow’s sophisticated cyber-meddling campaign on Friday.
The national security adviser made the remarks at the Munich Security Conference and spoke shortly after the Russian foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, had dismissed the allegations as “just blabber”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-investigation
So what about the Hillary, Wasserman-Schultz, DNC scheme against Bernie Sanders in the Democrat primary...you good with that ray?
You want a new cold war vs. Russia over all this ray? What will fix it? You think getting Trump removed from the Presidency will fix it? Dream on. Why is it so important that we see Russia as an enemy? Who is it really that wants that?**
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~ The SakerThe historical roots of the russophobia of the American elites
Having said all of the above, its actually pretty simple to understand why Russia in general, and Putin in particular, elicits such a deep hatred from the Western plutocracy: having convinced themselves that they won the Cold War they are now facing the double disappointment of a rapidly recovering Russia and a Western economic and political decline turning into what seems to be a slow and painful agony.
In their bitterness and spite, Western leaders overlook the fact that Russia has nothing to do with the West's current problems. Quite to the contrary, in fact: the main impact the collapse of the Soviet Union on the US-run international economic system was to prolong its existence by creating a new demand for US dollars in Eastern Europe and Russia (some economists - such as Nikolai Starikov - estimate that the collapse of the USSR gave an extra 10+ years of life to the US dollar).
In the past, Russia has been the historical arch-enemy of the British Empire. As for Jews - they have always harbored many grievances towards pre-revolutionary Tsarist Russia. The Revolution of 1917 brought a great deal of hope for many East-European Jews, but it was short lived as Stalin defeated Trotsky and the Communist Party was purged from many of its Jewish members. Over and over again Russia has played a tragic role in the history of the Ashkenazi Jews and this, of course, has left a deep mark on the worldview of the Neocons who are all deeply russophobic, even today. Somebody might object that many Jews are deeply grateful for the Soviet Army's liberation of Jews from the Nazi concentration camps or for the fact that the Soviet Union was the first country to recognize Israel. But in both cases, the country which is credited with these actions is the Soviet Union and not Russia which most Ashkenazi Jews still typically associate anti-Jewish policies and values.
It is thus not surprising that both the Anglo and the Jewish elites in the US would harbor an almost instinctive dislike for, and fear of, Russia, especially one perceived as resurgent or anti-American. And the fact is that they are not wrong in this perception: Russia is most definitely resurgent, and the vast majority of the Russian public opinion is vehemently anti-American, at least if by "America" we refer to the civilizational model or economic system.
Lastly, all these US establishment figures so horrified that our process may have been interfered with by Russians are massive hypocrites. How much interference with other countries has the USA been responsible for over the last century...other than the warmongering? Here's some clues from what seem to be TD Mod "approved" sources:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4ec14e7b6c7f
The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries
https://www.npr.org/2016/12/22/50662...eign-elections
Maybe we should pluck the beam from our own eye before whining about the Russian mote...
Maybe we both are.
Funny how a lot of times that I have posted my own opinions, those posts have a strange habit of disappearing. "Off topic" "No link" etc., etc....
My apologies for including The Saker's opinion in this post. You'll probably say The Saker is a Kremlin Troll. So be it...
Anti-Semite Russian. His views go right along with yours that the Jews (or Freemasons) control everything.
Don't think anyone will argue with you about that statement. However, to dismiss what is being done by the Russians now is stupid and suicidal for the US.
Last edited by misskit; 18-02-2018 at 09:14 AM.
The fact remains that he does not believe it happened at all in spite of the reality that there is a literal mountain of evidence. But people like SKkin consider themselves "enlightened" and possessing knowledge that the rest of us don't have or can not see. The reality in fact is the opposite.
Seventeen years ago there were 18 (?) pilots amateurs bringing a country (armed to the teeth) to its knee. Now just 13 amateurs (?) have changed its administration to someone's favour.
How easy...
Freemasons do control everything, not that there is anything wrong with that, better that than some Mormons or Scientologists
Not really...but since I'm not a gamer, don't follow sports, don't need time to polish my Tesla and I'm not a real estate property magnate...I have a lot of time to read a lot of things(on and offline). And that's what I do, because that's what I enjoy. Sorry that I'm such a blue collar "looser" compared to you. I drive a 1996 Buick and own my house...that's it. Nor do I desire all the trappings you claim to sport. Acquistion of $$$ does not drive my life, nor does it impress me in others.
Define Semite.
Now lets talk about Adam Schiff, one of the leaders of the so called resistance. What's driving him in all this Russia hysteria?
<snip>Since Donald Trump’s election, a number of Democrats have tried to cast themselves as leaders of the “resistance.” Few have done it with more gusto than Adam Schiff.
The California representative has become something like the point man for all things Trump-Russia, using his position as the highest-ranking Democrat on the House Select Intelligence Committee to act as the “guardian against the [administration’s] worst abuses” and making television appearances and public statements to warn about the administration’s alleged ties to Russia.
<snip>Schiff’s alarmism has paid off for him personally, catapulting him to national prominence and supplying him a potent theme for fundraising. But it also has the potential to be profitable for another group: the arms manufacturers and military contractors that are among his biggest donors.
Schiff’s hawkishness isn’t limited to Russia. He voted for the original AUMF that has served as the legal basis for the war in Afghanistan and all other aspects of the “war on terror” since. He was an early supporter of the Iraq War, joining twenty-eight other Democrats in handing Bush the keys to invade Iraq, and he insisted on staying the course for much of the 2000s. He also backed Obama’s war in Libya, pushed for the military destruction of ISIS, and called for “greater involvement” in Syria, including setting up a “no-fly zone.”
Perhaps not surprisingly, Schiff’s list of campaign contributors in recent years is littered with the names of prominent defense contractors. Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Orbital ATK, Harris Corporation, and Raytheon all make an appearance. The latter has given the California representative a total of $64,015 over the course of his career, and in 2013, its PAC held a fundraiser for him at the Verizon Center headlined by Beyoncé. That same year, Schiff was treated to a fundraiser by Igor Pasternak, a blimp manufacturer who returned to Ukraine and, inspired by the 2014 revolution, began working with the country’s defense ministry.
But surpassing all these is Parsons Corp, a multinational engineering services firm whose headquarters in Pasadena have sat in or adjacent to the different congressional districts Schiff has represented over the years. Parsons has been Schiff’s second-most generous funder, donating a total of $101,500 (just narrowly behind Disney). While it gives prodigiously to both parties, Parsons has maxed out for Schiff ($5,000 each for the primary and election) every election cycle he’s been an incumbent — an honor it hasn’t bestowed on any other congressperson.
Parsons’s various subsidiaries receive huge amounts of government largesse. Its “Government Services” subsidiary landed more than $740 million in government contracts in 2017, most of which came from the defense department, while its “Global Services” subsidiary has raked in tens of millions of dollars worth over the last few years, almost all from the Pentagon.
Parsons benefited directly from Schiff’s vote for the Iraq War, becoming the second largest reconstruction contractor in the country. It won a $900 million contract for security and justice, a $500 million contract for renovating public buildings, medical facilities and housing, a $1.5 billion contract for construction and engineering work, and was part of a $1.8 billion infrastructure deal.
Well well well...what a hero this Adam Schiff is. Just another errand boy for the US War Party. Imagine that. Making "Russian interference" profitable for warmongering profiteers.
quotes from:
Who Is Adam Schiff
https://jacobinmag.com/2018/02/adam-...ytheon-parsons
Last edited by SKkin; 18-02-2018 at 06:00 PM. Reason: hyper-linked image addition
no.
go start a thread about it....this on is about mueller's investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election.
'cold war'?
a message needs to be sent that this won't be tolerated.
you want to just bend over and take it?
it's too late to fix it. but those responsible (inside and outside the US) need to be identified and held accountable.
because they interfered in our elections.
FFS, why is this so complicated for you?
who is it that you think is responsible?
oh.
Report: Rick Gates to plead guilty "within days," testify against Manafort
Former top Trump campaign aide Rick Gates will plead guilty on fraud-related charges in coming days, the Los Angeles Times reports. Sources tell the Times Gates has told prosecutors that he would testify against his former business partner and Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort.
Why it matters: Gates pleaded not guilty last October to charges brought by special counsel Robert Mueller, but there have been reports he's trying to strike a deal. Unnamed sources told the Times that Gates' plea will be presented in federal court in Washington "within the next few days.''
https://www.axios.com/rick-gates-to-...source=sidebar
...This is when Mueller ferrets out why the 2016 Republican platform was changed to benefit Russia in the Ukraine. I think Manafort was behind it as he was working for the pro-Kremlin party in the Ukraine. Manafort brought in Russia money to buy influence and laundered the money to do it.
Last edited by misskit; 19-02-2018 at 07:03 AM.
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