Thread: Turkey V Europe - where will it end?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Yes, it is. Not that he is exceptional, in this regard, most of the ameristani vassals are as bad if not worse.

What about Putin ? Did he do it right ?

Absolutely No tourism to Turkey.
No imports from Turkey (chicken, fruit etc.)
All Turks had to leave the country (students, workers)
etc.

Henceforth Ohoh will be known as "Rick".

Rick was always a favourite of mine.

Ahhhh,....the mystery's explained.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Rick was always a favourite of mine.

No shit.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

The EU has crucial French and Dutch elections coming up soon and will go down the same road as Brexit.
Turkey has been kept in promised land with regards to EU membership to help with the fight against ISIS etc.
In reality no one wants Turkey and they are stuck in the middle as always between East and West.

You have been proven wrong last night

Originally Posted by Neverna

Erdogan seems to be unhinged and European countries are perhaps not handling the situation as best they could. Where will it end?

Not unhinged. A rather clever politician. He has managed to gain near absolute power thru creation of domestic crisis such as the recent "military coup" and elimination of any political opposition. The diplomatic flare up with the Dutch is all about his gaining more power at home.

Empowered by the deals to keep refugees from pouring into the EU he has a fair amount of leverage. Europe could end his nonsense by simply taking a tough stance as Russia did. Impose high import tariffs and let him know he can do whatever he cares to with his refugees. A bit of pain for Europe but do nothing and things will get worse. Coddling Erdogan is not the way to go.

Originally Posted by OhOh

So starving people to death by sanctions is one of your suggestions

Err..no. No mention of sanctions. Import tariffs on Turkish goods going to Europe. Same sort of thing your hero Putin did.

And so the war of words continues.

Tusk on Erdogan ...

Top EU officials have backed the Netherlands in its row with Turkey, with Donald Tusk slamming Ankara’s comparisons of the Dutch with fascists as “completely detached from reality,” and Jean-Claude Juncker warning the comments “distance” Turkey from EU membership.

Turkish minister on the Netherlands ...

Turkish minister claims 'holy wars will soon begin in Europe

Minister claims there is no difference between liberal politicians and 'fascist' far-right leader

A Turkish minister has claimed "holy wars will soon begin" in Europe, in spite of the defeat of far-right leader Geert Wilders in the Netherlands elections.

Mevlut Cavusoglu, Turkey’s foreign minister, did not welcome the victory for Prime Minister Mark Rutte’s centre-right People’s Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD).

“Now the election is over in the Netherlands...when you look at the many parties you see there is no difference between the social democrats and fascist Wilders,” he said according to a translation by Hurriyet.

“All have the same mentality. Where will you go? Where are you taking Europe? You have begun to collapse Europe. You are dragging Europe into the abyss. Holy wars will soon begin in Europe.”

Dutch elections: Turkish minister claims 'holy wars will soon begin in Europe' after Geert Wilders beaten | The Independent

Originally Posted by Neverna

Turkish minister claims 'holy wars will soon begin in Europe' after Geert Wilders beaten | The Independent[/url]

The stupid sh*t has shown his (and Turkey's) hand.

Time to kick Turkey out of NATO and deport the Turks from Europe.

Time for another Gallipoli !

If the EU don't cancel Turkey's application to join they will look like spineless whelks.

I think even the orange-faced wanker could score points here by demanding their expulsion from NATO.

Originally Posted by wasabi

Time for another Gallipoli !

Are you sure? Gallipoli was, of course, a huge victory for the Turks.

...let's take a moment to consider Sayyid Qutb's opinion:
"We must guard against adopting a defeatist attitude..."

Originally Posted by tomcat

...let's take a moment to consider Sayyid Qutb's opinion:
"We must guard against adopting a defeatist attitude..."

I much prefer "we must resist the urge to falsify and fictionalise as it serves only to highlight our ignorance and pettiness". Mind you, I can see why you wouldn't like that one.

Sayyid Qutb's insightful response: "Indeed our words will remain lifeless, barren, devoid of any passion, until we die as a result of these words..."

...don't take the quote to heart, however...

My insightful response: "Erdogan is going to win his referendum even if he loses the vote, so fuck him".

Originally Posted by Norton

A rather clever politician.

With lots of help of ignorant European politicians.
Again...they should take lessons from Putin.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

While you're at it work on your memory too, like most if your other higher functions it's severely broken.

My memory says that you predicted a war in Thailand.
Or that Syrian refugees are a blessing for Germany or any country or.....etc.... etc
Stick to the history channel where you can copy and paste your information. But keep out of current affairs.

Turkey has threatened, again, to scrap the EU-Turkey migrant deal


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe...eporting-story


Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has threatened to tear up a key migrant deal with the European Union.

He said the EU could "forget about" Turkey re-admitting failed asylum seekers who had reached Europe via Turkey, a key part of the agreement.

Mr Erdogan also said the EU's top court was leading a "crusade" against Islam.

President Erdogan said the EU had broken its promise of granting visa-free travel to Turks.

"Now they say readmission. What readmission? Forget about it," he said.

"You don't let my minister into the Netherlands. You revoke the landing rights of my foreign minister. You prevent [us] holding meetings at the General Consulate building, which is my land. But after that you'd expect us to do this [re-admit migrants]. That's not going to happen."

On Wednesday Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said Turkey could immediately stop implementing the agreement if it wanted to, echoing previous threats made by the Turkish government.

And .... An Imam close to Erdogan has called for Turkey to have nuclear weapons.


Erdogan Imam calls for NUCLEAR weapons NOW amid tensions with EU


TURKEY should ignore rules set by ‘the West’ and build its own NUCLEAR WEAPONS - an Imam close to president Recep Tayyip Erdogan has advised - as the fallout between Brussels and Ankara deepens

Hayrettin Karaman, the Turkish AK Party’s go-to religious leader, attacked ‘the West’ in a letter which insisted Erdogan should immediately invest in weapons of mass destruction.

In the online post the imam accused Christian countries in the West of egotism and racism - stating the bad attitude towards Turkey has been “accelerated”.

Originally Posted by Neverna

In the online post the imam accused Christian countries in the West of egotism and racism

when he starts calling folks he's never met Crusaders, it may be time to have a quiet chat with Erdogan...