Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

If he runs, I believe Trump will win a second term solidly

On what are you basing that? He lost the popular vote and barely eked out an electoral college victory. With who is he going to pickup votes? For him to win solidly as you are implying he will have to find new supporters. If Bernie Sanders would have won the primary he would have trounced Trump in the general.

^Basing it on absolutely nothing other than my feelings. I know you're a huge Bernie fan, but that really doesn't factor into it at this point. I would be delighted to be proven wrong.

^ Ok fair enough. We will have a better idea of how things are going to play out in 2020 after November.

^Very true. I could well be wrong, having just read another article on Clinton, who simply NEVER stops whining. I can understand voters opting for ANYTHING BUT HILLARY....which is what they got. I don't really follow US politics but, from what I've seen, I don't see any major challengers as yet. Just political scum, and more of the same ilk.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

I don't really follow US politics but, from what I've seen, I don't see any major challengers as yet.

Bernie is going to run again and that is all that matters to me.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

I don't see any major challengers as yet.

Dwayne The Rock Johnson could beat Trump at this point in time and if he ran with Oprah, one as P and one as VP (doesn't matter which), they'd be a shoe-in.

(I'm letting my innocent optimism show )

it's worth remembering that clinton lost the electoral college because of the outcome in 3 states: michigan, wisconsin and pennylvania...by a total of 80,000 votes....and that's not 80,000 in each state...it's the total for all three.....80,000 people fit into a football stadium....a smarter campaign run by a better candidate (biden, for example) would have won those states.

anyway, the trump voters were fired up in 2016 for two reasons...they loved the trump TV persona and they hated hillary.

in 2020 there will be fewer republicans fired up because their lives haven't improved (an in many cases worsened) and the dems aren't going to run hillary. no matter who it is that gets the dem nomination, there won't be as many people who go to the polls specifically to vote against him/her as there were for hillary.

don't discount 'trump fatigue' on the part of his voters just like there was 'obama fatigue' for those who voted for obama in 2008 and didn't in 2012...and then there's the demographics which grow in the dems favor every single day....and in 2020 it's the dem voters who are going to be fired up.

predicting national elections more than 2 years away is a fool's errand BUT....right now i'd make a small wager that the dems will have control of both houses of congress and the presidency on jan 20, 2021.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Bernie is going to run again

i don't think he should....he'll be 79 on election day....he got screwed in 2016, but it's too late.

he should choose someone younger who shares his beliefs to guide and mentor.

Originally Posted by raycarey

right now i'd make a small wager that the dems will have control of both houses of congress and the presidency on jan 20, 2021.

If you are right about that and I hope you are. It will be payback time for many.

Originally Posted by raycarey

it's worth remembering that clinton lost the electoral college because of the outcome in 3 states: michigan, wisconsin and pennylvania...by a total of 80,000 votes....and that's not 80,000 in each state...it's the total for all three.....80,000 people fit into a football stadium....a smarter campaign run by a better candidate (biden, for example) would have won those states.

anyway, the trump voters were fired up in 2016 for two reasons...they loved the trump TV persona and they hated hillary.

in 2020 there will be fewer republicans fired up because their lives haven't improved (an in many cases worsened) and the dems aren't going to run hillary. no matter who it is that gets the dem nomination, there won't be as many people who go to the polls specifically to vote against him/her as there were for hillary.

don't discount 'trump fatigue' on the part of his voters just like there was 'obama fatigue' for those who voted for obama in 2008 and didn't in 2012...and then there's the demographics which grow in the dems favor every single day....and in 2020 it's the dem voters who are going to be fired up.

predicting national elections more than 2 years away is a fool's errand BUT....right now i'd make a small wager that the dems will have control of both houses of congress and the presidency on jan 20, 2021.

if Oprah is running, then yes, otherwise, it's no and 4 more years of Trump

even with Obama fatigue, Obama got re-elected, and did more of the same, that is fuck all, the lazy fooker

Originally Posted by uncle junior

Pretty safe bet.

The electoral college schema has to be replaced with a popular vote. There are indeed enough stupid red necks and dillusional christians to get Trump elected again with the current set up.

The Trump administration said on Friday that it had separated 1,995 children from parents facing criminal prosecution for unlawfully crossing the border over a six-week period that ended last month, as President Trump sought to shift blame for the widely criticized practice that has become the signature policy of his aggressive immigration agenda.”

the trumpo's argument for this is 'Obama started it'.....pretty sure he did ACA and the Iran deal too........tarded numpties all of 'em

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/1...imes&smtyp=cur

In today's news... Trump has lied, again, to try to cover for his own previous lies:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12073439

So yeah he lied. Again.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

In today's news... Trump has lied, again, to try to cover for his own previous lies:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12073439

So yeah he lied. Again.

"The people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition.

"
Nah...Trump never said that, or else he copied those words from someone else.
Trump, if he felt that, would have worded it somewhat differently.
"The Germans, they're nice people, smart people, and they're sick of Merkel, she's bad on migration and her government is in trouble because of it. Dumb moves by Merkel, dumb."

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

In today's news... Trump has lied, again, to try to cover for his own previous lies:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12073439

So yeah he lied. Again.

and why is that frontpage news ? I mean really ?

more good news for Trump

Trump threatens additional $200bn in tariffs on China

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44529149

The good news is trumpo's gonna build an elite military force of space commanders to maga in space....so much winning

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...acy-arab-world

Putting children in cages and the rise of the right wing. I am both disgusted and more than slightly worried by the way the world seems to be heading. The phrase 'history repeats itself' has never seemed more apt.

Originally Posted by uncle junior

The good news is trumpo's gonna build an elite military force of space commanders to maga in space....so much winning

I posted this in the Space News thread ...

Originally Posted by David48atTD

US President Donald Trump says he is ordering the establishment of a sixth branch of the military to clear the way for
American dominance in space.

Key points:

• Mr Trump said he wants a 'Space Force' to stop China and Russia' from leading the US
• But, the international Outer Space Treaty bars the stationing of weapons of mass destruction in space
• Mr Trump also signed a directive on the management of traffic and debris in space

"It is not enough to merely have an American presence in space. We must have American dominance in space," Mr Trump said
before a meeting of his National Space Council.

"We are going to have the Air Force and we're going to have the 'Space Force.' Separate but equal," he said later.

"It is going to be something. So important."

The United States, however, is a member of the Outer Space Treaty, which bars the stationing of weapons of mass destruction
in space and only allows for the use of the moon and other celestial bodies for peaceful purposes.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Obama got re-elected, and did more of the same, that is fuck all, the lazy fooker

In his first term he had a huge burden of dealing with all the shit left over from Bush. He also had a hostile and unhelpful Congress and Senate.

Latest from Drumpfland:

He's now referring the illegals as 'infesting' the US in his latest less-than-veiled racist dog whistle to his supporters and in another attempt to lie, twist and distort his own administrations policy as being the fault of the Dems as he attempts to literally hold kids hostage to get funding to build the wall he said Mexico would pay for.

So, just another day then...

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

twist and distort his own administrations policy as being the fault of the Dems

Well hilary did have emails so pretty obvious they're at fault...

Benghazi emails!

Originally Posted by uncle junior

Well hilary did have emails so pretty obvious they're at fault...

And Obama IS a Muslim and not a US citizen.
That's enough to pin every despicable act of Trump onto the Dems.