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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Remarkable how trumpanzees fall for this shit.
    harry, if you were looking for a job in america, would you go to corporations and businesses that are offering jobs?

    if the answer is yes, then you should want those companies to be doing well so they'll hire you and others (that's what the tax plan does and makes us corporations competitive with other countries).

    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    the top 20% of americans pay 84% of the taxes.
    or harry: should the top 20% pay 90% of the taxes?

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    Can someone please take the time to explain why Senator John McCain's vote is so crucial?

    He has only 1 vote.

    Is the Replublician's Senate majority only 1 or 2 votes if the vote goes according to Party lines?
    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    The tax bill was written in haste and is getting rushed through Congress. There are barely legible hand written add-ons scrawled in the margins, non-tax related items involving abortions and allowing churches to be more politically active have been added at the last minute.

    Zero proper research has been done, as nobody has had the time to actually study the 400 pages.
    History's all ready proven trickle-down doesn't work. The corporations find ways to hand out the tax savings in bonuses or dividends. Higher wages are not a result of corporate tax cuts.

    Just more horseshit from a dysfunctional gov't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    History's all ready proven trickle-down doesn't work
    how many democrats do you think will vote for the bill? i'm guessing a few from the states that trump won will vote yes.

    reagan's tax cuts caused a boom in the economy and he won a second term.......

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    ^dig deeper. Where did the corp tax savinga go. What did all the influx of easy credit do for consumer spending.

    Ask the authors of bill what the true aim of.it is. It's not the US economy. It's not being hurried through because they know it's a good biil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    ^dig deeper. Where did the corp tax savinga go. What did all the influx of easy credit do for consumer spending.

    Ask the authors of bill what the true aim of.it is. It's not the US economy. It's not being hurried through because they know it's a good biil.
    we'll see: if you're right then the democrats will easily win in 2020.

    if you're wrong, you'll be talking about trump on this thread for 7 more years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    dig deeper. Where did the corp tax savinga go. What did all the influx of easy credit do for consumer spending.

    Ask the authors of bill what the true aim of.it is. It's not the US economy. It's not being hurried through because they know it's a good biil.
    It's close to Xmas, the turkey's are looking forward to it.

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    Trump's support in Congress stops at what he can do for them. This bill gets through his supporters will have what they want. They'll be looking to cut ties with him to save their jobs and to clean up their image before next November

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    The tax bill was written in haste and is getting rushed through Congress. There are barely legible hand written add-ons scrawled in the margins, non-tax related items involving abortions and allowing churches to be more politically active have been added at the last minute.

    Zero proper research has been done, as nobody has had the time to actually study the 400 pages.
    History's all ready proven trickle-down doesn't work. The corporations find ways to hand out the tax savings in bonuses or dividends. Higher wages are not a result of corporate tax cuts.

    Just more horseshit from a dysfunctional gov't.
    Do you have a link to the barely legible hand written add one.

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    Lowest-income Americans would take bigger hit than first thought under Senate GOP tax bill, CBO says




    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/27/sena...bo-report.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
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    fuhgeddaboutit

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    Gotta love these hypocritical idiots.

    A Republican Senator has criticised the US media for calling Donald Trump a “kook,” and “unfit for office,” despite having used those words to describe the President himself.


    "What concerns me about the American press is this endless, endless attempt to label the guy some kind of kook not fit to be president,” Senator Lindsey Graham told CNN this week.


    He added: “It’s pretty frustrating for most Republicans, quite frankly, that it’s 24/7 attack on everything the President does or thinks. It gets a little old after a while.”


    But Mr Graham had previously attacked the President using those exact same words.


    “I think he’s a kook. I think he’s crazy. I think he’s unfit for office,” Mr Graham told Fox News in a televised interview during the campaign.



    Senior Republican's attack on the media's portrayal of Trump massively backfires | The Independent

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    I'm not sure if this is the right place for this but here it is anyway;

    I really don't get it.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Can someone please take the time to explain why Senator John McCain's vote is so crucial?
    It's a slim majority, so McCain is seen as a swing vote. As was seen earlier in the year with his vote against repealing the ACA.

    Maybe this will help more...from:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-debate-update

    Republican John McCain of Arizona said in a statement Thursday that he’s decided to support the Senate tax bill -- helping GOP leaders get one step closer to passing their overhaul.

    McCain hadn’t taken an official position on the tax plan until now -- and no one was taking his vote for granted after he shocked the political world by voting against a rushed attempt to demolish the Affordable Care Act this summer.

    “I believe this legislation, though far from perfect, would enhance American competitiveness, boost the economy, and provide long overdue tax relief for middle class families,” McCain said in the statement.

    The Arizona lawmaker joins Lisa Murkowski of Alaska -- another GOP senator whose support had been in question -- in publicly endorsing the Senate tax bill in recent days. The GOP has a slim majority in the Senate, and can only afford to lose two of its 52 members to pass a bill without Democratic support. Republican senators that could still prove difficult votes include Susan Collins of Maine, Bob Corker of Tennessee, Jeff Flake of Arizona, James Lankford of Oklahoma and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin.

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    ^ And no Republican mentions the "benefits" to those below the "middle class families" income bracket.
    Essentially, making the poorest lose out for the benefit of those that have a home and blankets and a full belly.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it the US government that coined the term "collateral damage"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it the US government that coined the term "collateral damage"?
    The US military. They started using it when they wanted to target and murders as many civilians as they could, but didn't want to report it as "slaughtering women and children". So they use collateral damage instead knowing that none of their in-house media (CNN etc) will ever challenge it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    harry, if you were looking for a job in america, would you go to corporations and businesses that are offering jobs?

    if the answer is yes, then you should want those companies to be doing well
    Gullible little fools like you would do well to educate yourselves.

    Start by watching "Roger & Me", the documentary which made Michael Moore famous.

    The basic premise is him trying to ask the General Motors CEO why he was closing plants in Flint, Michigan, laying off tens of thousands of workers and destroying whole American communities, and moving production to Mexico - at a time when GM were making record profits.

    There's a reason these corporations pay politicians to delude people like yourself.

    Here look, I've even found you a decent torrent:

    https://pirateproxy.cam/torrent/1123...ip_x264_-_YIFY

    Maybe you might actually learn something.

    But I doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    which will bring trillions of dollars (parked offshore) back into the u.s. and push the gdp up for the foreseeable future (creating jobs for even those who don't even file for unemployment benefits anymore)?
    How is this any different than the tax holiday Congress gave corporations to repatriate their off shore funds back in '04.....which worked out same way Reagan's trickle down worked....which is to say it didn't work

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    It's a slim majority, so McCain is seen as a swing vote. As was seen earlier in the year with his vote against repealing the ACA.

    Maybe this will help more...from:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-debate-update
    Thanks for that.

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    All the sea forwarders now selling their superships cause all the dollar goods will be now crafted by American people, no longer by the expensive Chinese...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    All the sea forwarders now selling their superships cause all the dollar goods will be now crafted by American people, no longer by the expensive Chinese...
    Does anyone know which mental care facility this one escaped from?

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    Whaaa? Waffling again.


    Hours after Senate GOP passes tax bill, Trump says he’ll consider raising corporate rate

    Hours after the pre-dawn passage of a $1.5 trillion tax cut, President Trump suggested for the first time Saturday that he would consider a higher corporate rate than the one Senate Republicans had just endorsed, in remarks that could complicate sensitive negotiations to pass a final bill.


    On his way to New York for three fundraisers, Trump told reporters that the corporate tax rate in the GOP plan might end up rising to 22 percent from 20 percent.


    Lawmakers in both the House and Senate had fought hard to keep the corporate rate low, with the Senate late Friday rejecting a Republican-backed proposal to push it up to 21 percent in exchange for more working-family tax breaks.

    MORE https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.92d12b25e1f6



    I agree with uncle junior's above posts, when this bill gets though Trump supporters will step away from him in a hurry. All they want is the tax cut and money repatriated, not the moron who was elected.

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    BTW. When is the last time anyone has seen Sen. Turtle so happy.



    His bill passed the Senate and he is glassy eyed with elation.

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