Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by RPETER65

where did you get the idea I ever supported Roy Moore.

Because you present as a stereotype right-wing, white and male of a certain age, Christian ideologue who gives more weight to subjective opinions than objective fact - i.e. the base for the likes of Moore...

...would be my guess.

Republicans in Washington seemed near panic Thursday in the light of a news report in which four women said Roy S. Moore, the Republican nominee for a United States Senate seat in Alabama and an evangelical Christian, had made sexual or romantic overtures to them when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s.

Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican majority leader, said Mr. Moore should step aside ahead of the Dec. 12 special election if the allegations were true.

But in Alabama, the fallout was uncertain for a candidate who is considered a hero in some circles for his conservative cultural stances. Mr. Moore, the former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, was twice removed from that office for his positions on gay marriage and a Ten Commandments display. On Thursday, he strenuously denied the allegations the women made about him in on-the-record interviews included in the report, published by The Washington Post.

And it was clear that many in his conservative base were in no mood to desert him in a race for a Senate seat Republicans consider crucial to maintaining their majority in the upper chamber.

John Skipper, 66, a former chair of the Mobile County Republican Party, declared the allegations “total contrived media garbage.” Mr. Skipper said that he would still support the candidate and that he figured most of the Alabama Republicans he knew would probably do the same.

“Most of them will not be shocked,” he said, “and will rather be expecting these shenanigans being pulled by the Democrats as standard operating procedure.”

So the right in America can now condone pedophiles in the Senate. It has no end.

Read the full article here;

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/u...teenagers.html

Originally Posted by thailazer

Can you say hypocrite? Shure! I knew you chould! If only Mr. Rogers could be around to give us political commentary.

China: President Trump v candidate Trump - BBC News

More telling is his tweet (below). Effectively he's admitting that if he can take advantage, he will, including redneck Trumptards.
I think this tweet is the one that his ignorant base should think about most. I hope a journo does what's right and stirs this up.

Donald Trump: 'America first' in trade from now on

US President Donald Trump vowed on Friday to put an end to "trade abuses" as he spoke at the opening of the APEC summit in Vietnam.

Trump told the audience of Asia-Pacific leaders in the coastal city of Da Nang it was time to put "America first", adding the US won't be "taken advantage of anymore".

"We can no longer tolerate these chronic trade abuses, and we will not tolerate them. From this day forward, we will compete on a fair and equal basis," said Trump. "I am always going to put America first, the same way that I expect all of you in this room to put your countries first."

The US president denounced the "audacious theft of intellectual property" and "destructive practices of forcing businesses to surrender their technology to the state". He pledged to work with individual countries in a mutually beneficial economic relationship.

"We seek friendship, and we don't dream of domination," he said.

The economies of APEC's 21 nations - with some three billion people - represent about 60 percent of the global gross domestic product.

Trump said he wants to deal with strong and prosperous nations in the region. "I call it the Indo-Pacific dream. If it's going to be realised, we must ensure that all play by the rules, which they do not right now."

China has the largest trade surplus with the United States and Trump didn't shy away from pointing the finger directly at Beijing during his speech.

President Xi Jinping - leader of the world's largest communist country – said globalisation was an "irreversible trend" but added it must become more balanced and inclusive. In contrast to Trump, Xi touted the benefits of multilateral trade deals.

"Should we steer economic globalisation, or should we dither and stall in the face of challenge? Should we jointly advance regional cooperation, or should we go our separate ways?" Xi asked. "Openness brings progress, while self-seclusion leaves one behind."

Xi added: "We the Asia Pacific economies know this too well from our own development experience. We should put in place a regional cooperation framework that ensures consultation among equals with participation and shared benefits."

Deborah Elms, executive director of the Asian Trade Centre, told Al Jazeera the speeches by the leaders of the two most powerful economies differed significantly.

Trump's speech was all about the United States and its trade grievances, while Xi's was more open and inclusive focusing on the prosperity of the region and its future, she said.

"The contrast was quite striking and quite stark," Elms said. "I think it's a real problem for the US because this speech was billed as the opportunity for Trump to outline the US vision under his leadership…

Donald Trump: 'America first' in trade from now on | News | Al Jazeera

This....

Mounting GOP retirements threaten House majority
All told, 29 Republicans will not seek reelection to their House seats, compared to only 11 for Democrats. Fifteen Republicans are retiring outright, rather than seeking other political offices or positions. Only two Democrats are doing the same.

Mounting GOP retirements threaten House majority | TheHill

Rats and sinking ships comes to mind.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

More telling is his tweet (below). Effectively he's admitting that if he can take advantage, he will, including redneck Trumptards.
I think this tweet is the one that his ignorant base should think about most. I hope a journo does what's right and stirs this up.

trump's being trump and that's what got him elected.

sure, bsnub and ant like to call trump a moron, but the position he took in that speech is very nuanced and probably not understood by many who read the headlines.

it's totally in line with what trump said at the un: every country should do what's best for its citizens and the world will be a better place (or something to that effect).

trump's a businessman and of course respects the fact that china has been able to "play" the us for decades. the chinese know he's subtly saying that the trump admin won't be played.

at that trump speech in china, dennis shea was sitting in the front row.

he's the deputy u.s. trade representative and strong critic of china, planning to take china to task for violating wto rules, if they don't get into line.

In China his visit is seen as Trump making a pilgrimage to pay homage to the great leader (Xi).

Originally Posted by Cujo

In China his visit is seen as Trump making a pilgrimage to pay homage to the great leader (Xi).

tbh, he is a great leader and what china has done in the last 3-4 decades is probably one of the most impressive achievements in human history (bringing hundreds of millions from poverty to middle class).

that said,

the other achievements of human history happened in the 500 years while china's general population didn't progress while the french revolution happened (men should be equal in the eye of the law) among other achievements of western civilization, that china still needs to absorb, as it were.

Originally Posted by bsnub

He is a fellow "christian" and a fellow Evangelical. He is also a pedophile. So now you turn your back on a brother once exposed? So typical of you fake Christians. Jesus will strike you down for your ignorance.

So in your take I must support him because he is a Christian,there are many Christians I don't agree with and I don't believe Jesus will strike me down because of it. If in fact he is proven to be a pedophile I believe he should pay a heavy penalty. By the way I never supported him before this allegation came out.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

If in fact he is proven to be a pedophile I believe he should pay a heavy penalty.

There are four women out now on record. How much proof do you need? Would you insinuate that they are all lairs as Roy Moore and many on the right are claiming?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

By the way I never supported him before this allegation came out

rat...meet sinking ship...

Originally Posted by Cujo

In China his visit is seen as Trump making a pilgrimage to pay homage to the great leader (Xi).

And similarly as his last time presence in EU, he complained how the others make the US trade difficult.

That's why all the thousands of containers arriving every day to US coasts have to go back to Asia empty. Some of them are filled in with American HiTech goods such as a raw wood, perhaps now also with the US frack oil barrels (so cheap)...

How encouraging for American people that their POTUS is now bringing new jobs for them, they will be busy with the new arms production for Saudis, SK and others...
(however, it will not fill in the empty containers back to Asia)

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

trump's being trump and that's what got him elected.

sure, bsnub and ant like to call trump a moron, but the position he took in that speech is very nuanced and probably not understood by many who read the headlines.

it's totally in line with what trump said at the un: every country should do what's best for its citizens and the world will be a better place (or something to that effect).

trump's a businessman and of course respects the fact that china has been able to "play" the us for decades. the chinese know he's subtly saying that the trump admin won't be played.

at that trump speech in china, dennis shea was sitting in the front row.

he's the deputy u.s. trade representative and strong critic of china, planning to take china to task for violating wto rules, if they don't get into line.

You are right. That is what got Trump elected. Samantha Bee hit it on the head too. "An era of dumbshits who are popular!"

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/sama...ump-president/

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Pretty strange how all these allegations from decades ago come out when the Dems.are looking for ways to discredit republicans.

Yeah, the timing's convenient for the Dems. Probably a good chance they're behind it, Moore's not denying he did it though so it looks like it happened.. Fair play if it's true..

Originally Posted by bsnub

There are four women out now on record. How much proof do you need? Would you insinuate that they are all lairs as Roy Moore and many on the right are claiming?

I would insinuate nothing until there is proof. Many things could be at play here, what are the backgrounds of these women,what are their motivations,what are their political persuasions. You can't call someone guilty because four people speak out against them. Do you know any background on these women?

Originally Posted by uncle junior

Yeah, the timing's convenient for the Dems. Probably a good chance they're behind it, Moore's not denying he did it though so it looks like it happened.. Fair play if it's true..

Yes agreed fair play if it is true.

Philippines getting ready......Traffic in Manila is virtually shut down as most major roads are closed for the next five days. Nothing is moving...at all. Hopefully my wife will make it home from the airport tonight. Then, we bunker down here in the province and watch the show - Duterte and Trump...what could go wrong?

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

it's totally in line with what trump said at the un: every country should do what's best for its citizens and the world will be a better place

Except this time he said, "taking advantage of people with no clue, I would do the same", which in light of his base is an admission that he's taken advantage of them.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Duterte and Trump...what could go wrong?

Two Dunning-Kruger narcissists, each intent on playing tough guy to their respective electorate bases.
I would say 45's baby sitters will be having a sleepless night worrying about how they themselves can try to handle him.

Trump keeps it simple on Asian tour – trade and North Korea. But where is the strategy?
10 Nov, 2017

Trump likes to keep it simple. A fundamental plank of his successful election campaign last year was a pledge to get rid of the trade deficits that exist between Japan, China, and other countries.

The US has a $69 billion trade deficit with Japan (meaning Japan makes $69 billion more out of import/export trade with the US). Trump told Japan it can defend itself against North Korea and make him happy by closing the trade deficit in one ingenious move. If Japan buys arms from the US, the threatened country could then zero in on the North Korean missiles and “shoot them out of the sky.”

“He (Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe) will shoot them out of the sky when he completes the purchase of lots of additional military equipment from the United States,“ Trump said. “The prime minister is going to be purchasing massive amounts of military equipment, as he should. And we make the best military equipment by far.”

Abe said Tokyo would shoot down missiles “if necessary.” Like I said, simple.

In South Korea too, Trump claimed he was striking arms deals that would cut Asian trade deficits with the US. For South Korea has a trade deficit with the US too.

Trump revealed that South Korea would be ordering "billions of dollars" in military equipment from the US, to reduce its trade deficit. Moon said they had agreed to "begin consultations on acquisitions" for defense.

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/409461-tr...ia-tour-china/

So, after all, the trade deficit with Asia will get reduced (when the Japanese and SKoreans beg so much for the arms, don't they?)

China, in particular, did its homework on Trump and understood that flattery and flashy military parades were the way to his heart. After the parade a clearly impressed Trump said “the hosting of the military parade this morning was magnificent. And the world was watching. Nothing you can see is so beautiful.”

Gone was all the talk of economic rape. He told business leaders of the trade deficit: “I don’t blame China.”

“After all, who can blame a country for being able to take advantage of another country for the benefit of its citizens? I give China great credit.”

(a military parade more beautiful than an American chocolate cake?)

Trump then ‘revealed’ the two countries had agreed $250 billion of deals. Yet Bloomberg was quick to point out that “The reality, however, is that the roughly 15 agreements unveiled on Thursday are mostly non-binding memorandums of understanding and could take years to materialize - if they do at all.” Bloomberg, the respected business outlet continued: “A day earlier, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross announced $9 billion of deals, many also MOUs with few details, rather than contracts.”

By Friday morning, in Vietnam, Trump was back on the attack again. Now the villain in America’s tale of trade woes was the World Trade Organization. The mixed messages are dizzying.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Two Dunning-Kruger narcissists, each intent on playing tough guy to their respective electorate bases.
I would say 45's baby sitters will be having a sleepless night worrying about how they themselves can try to handle him.

It has the potential to be quite amusing.......