President Donald Trump

**Slick** · 08-08-2017, 12:58 AM

Ahhh ok so libtards went attack mode on a gay man for being a conservative.

How tolerant.

**Slick** · 08-08-2017, 01:12 AM

No bueno.

LA made $1.3B in illegal immigrant welfare payouts in just 2 years

Illegal immigrant families received nearly $1.3 billion in Los Angeles County welfare money during 2015 and 2016, nearly one-quarter of the amount spent on the county’s entire needy population, according to data obtained by Fox News.

The data was obtained from the county Department of Public Social Services -- which is responsible for doling out the benefits -- and gives a snapshot of the financial costs associated with sanctuary and related policies.

The sanctuary county of Los Angeles is an illegal immigration epicenter, with the largest concentration of any county in the nation, according to a study from the Migration Policy Institute. The county also allows illegal immigrant parents with children born in the United States to seek welfare and food stamp benefits.

Robert Rector, a Heritage Foundation senior fellow who has written extensive studies on poverty and illegal immigration, said the costs represent “the tip of the iceberg.”

LA made $1.3B in illegal immigrant welfare payouts in just 2 years | Fox News

**elche** · 08-08-2017, 02:39 AM

^ An admitted neo-fascist citing the views of two right wing propaganda mills, Fox Views and the Heritage Foundation. Gee, I would have never thought. Try again trumptard.

**Slick** · 08-08-2017, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by elche

^ An admitted neo-fascist citing the views of two right wing propaganda mills, Fox Views and the Heritage Foundation. Gee, I would have never thought. Try again trumptard.

So you're saying it's a lie?

**elche** · 08-08-2017, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by elche

^ An admitted neo-fascist citing the views of two right wing propaganda mills, Fox Views and the Heritage Foundation. Gee, I would have never thought. Try again trumptard.

So you're saying it's a lie?

Yes, a filthy dirty lie and total deception so typical of the right wing propaganda mills. That quoted figure of 1.3 billion is based on the costs of education and fire and police protection they apparently receive. Furthermore, they are undocumented workers who can't put back into the economy b/c they are paid so little. Your attempt to scapegoat and demonize them is an old GOP trick. Try again trumptard.

**JayZee** · 08-08-2017, 05:40 AM

Echoing the Marines’ credo of “God, Country, Corps,” Kelly said he expects all of them to put country first, the president second, and their own needs and priorities last

So, is God missing in action?

**tomcat** · 08-08-2017, 05:44 AM

god is only part of the equation if you're under attack...

**tomcat** · 08-08-2017, 07:12 AM

...an interesting question from a WaPo opinion writer:

Who’s worse for the nation — Trump or Pence?
by Richard Cohen

Mike Pence is denying reports that he is positioning himself to run for president in 2020 if, for some reason, Donald Trump falls by the wayside or decides that one term is enough. The vice president’s denial was so over-the-top — “disgraceful and offensive,” he called the New York Times article — that had he been on a polygraph, he would have frizzled the wires and blown the circuits. The only thing wrong about the article was its timing. Pence’s presidential ambitions are nothing new. He’s been running his entire life.

Pence is the very personification of the career politician. With the exception of a few years doing talk radio and television shows, he has done nothing but run for office, winning all but the first two times. In Congress, he set out to shimmy up the leadership of his party — chairman of the Republican Study Committee, etc. — finally running for Indiana governor in 2012 and then, with all humility, becoming Trump’s running mate. Pence is not a man to look a gift horse in the mouth. He’s got his eye on 2020.

In the meantime, Pence has become a parlor game in certain circles: If President Trump leaves office before his term is up — if either lightning or Robert S. Mueller III strikes — would it be a good thing for the nation? In other words, who’s worse — Trump or Pence?

This is a hard one. Trump is a menace, both ignorant and chaotic. His saving grace is his incompetence. In his first six months in office, he has made a hash of our foreign policy, set back efforts to contain global warming, exploited public land and depopulated the State Department. But these efforts — as bad as they might be — have been so far confined to the margins. Trump has not passed any major legislation or, for that matter, built any walls.

On the other hand, his most significant and appalling contribution has been to normalize lying as an ordinary tool of the presidency. He has ghettoized truth, confining it to something characterized as the lying and disloyal mainstream media. He lies for purpose and he lies just for the hell of it. His lying is such that it ought to be a mental ailment. Call him politically insane.

That is not Pence. He is predictable, steadfast and experienced, but not conventional. His views, especially regarding social and cultural issues, are to the right of the right. He is famously antiabortion, recommends abstinence as the entire key to sex education and has taken the unique view that condoms are useless in AIDS prevention. As for global warming, back in 2000 he said it “is a myth.”

In 2002, Pence took to the floor of the House to declaim on evolution. Like many of its opponents, he misused the term “theory,” making it seem like a guess or a speculation. In science, a theory is an explanation of how things work. This is quite different from what Pence cited as a comparison — “that God created man in his own image.” That’s religion and not a theory — and that’s a fact.

To anyone other than an adamant social conservative, Pence is shockingly unreasonable. But he is also shockingly hypocritical. Throughout his career, he has billboarded himself as “a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican, in that order.” But what about Trump is any of those? Trump is a virtual pagan. He has never been ideologically nor culturally conservative and is a Republican of convenience only. Nonetheless, Pence not only leaped into Trump’s arms but rebuked him only once — for his “Access Hollywood” crack — and never for what he said about Mexicans, Muslims or the disabled, or, for that matter, how he denigrated his primary-election opponents. Pence is all faith and no morality.

So now Pence stands to Trump’s side, his head nodding at every inanity. He is the cardboard cutout for a soulless and opportunistic Republican Party, a display to put in the window of some Trump souvenir shop. In a sense, he is worse than the man he serves. Trump is a child — undisciplined, capricious and self-involved. Pence is none of those things. Trump knows nothing. Pence knows better.

So who would be worse? To me, this is like the Iran-Iraq War. I cannot pick a side and, to my relief, I don’t have to. But if I were Trump, I’d keep an eye on that nodding head over my shoulder. Pence professes loyalty to Trump, but when it comes to principles, he’s not even loyal to himself.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.f5a6d6d8e41b

**bsnub** · 08-08-2017, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Well, the reason I asked is because to understand the story, it's newsworthiness and credibility you have to look at the source.

Jeezus Christ. There is no credibility to be challenge in the fucking thing. Dimwit Kayleigh McEnany left CNN to spew propaganda on Drumpfs youtube fake news page.

You kicked off a series of other retards posting a bunch of unnecessary shit when the article was clear as crystal with nothing to challenge. Fucking waste of time.

**bsnub** · 08-08-2017, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by Slick

So you're saying it's a lie?

Originally Posted by elche

Yes, a filthy dirty lie and total deception so typical of the right wing propaganda mills. That quoted figure of 1.3 billion is based on the costs of education and fire and police protection they apparently receive.

**harrybarracuda** · 08-08-2017, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by elche

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by elche

^ An admitted neo-fascist citing the views of two right wing propaganda mills, Fox Views and the Heritage Foundation. Gee, I would have never thought. Try again trumptard.

So you're saying it's a lie?

Yes, a filthy dirty lie and total deception so typical of the right wing propaganda mills. That quoted figure of 1.3 billion is based on the costs of education and fire and police protection they apparently receive. Furthermore, they are undocumented workers who can't put back into the economy b/c they are paid so little. Your attempt to scapegoat and demonize them is an old GOP trick. Try again trumptard.

Slick is too stupid to understand the issues.

Stephen Goss, the chief actuary of the Social Security Administration, estimates that about 1.8 million immigrants were working with fake or stolen Social Security cards in 2010, and he expects that number to reach 3.4 million by 2040. He calculates that undocumented immigrants paid $13 billion into the retirement trust fund that year, and only got about $1 billion in benefits.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business...-taxes/499604/

**Slick** · 08-08-2017, 01:13 PM

So, illegal immigrants = good according to Nevertrumpers

Quell surprise

**AntRobertson** · 08-08-2017, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Slick is too stupid to understand the issues.

Originally Posted by Slick

So, illegal immigrants = good according to Nevertrumpers

Q.E.D.

**Slick** · 08-08-2017, 01:35 PM

"you have to go back"

~ Donald Trump

**Maanaam** · 08-08-2017, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by redhaze

Had to look that one up about him saying he always felt like he was in the military. Sure enough, he said it. Not only did he say it, he said it in his own autobiography! It wasn't even a slip of the tongue LMAO

I just don't understand how any grown man can support this guy. That's embarrasing.

Donald Trump Compared Prep School to Military Service?

And avoiding catching an STI was his personal Viet Nam! Not sure if that's verbatim, but it is the essence.
What a wanker.

**AntRobertson** · 08-08-2017, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Slick

"you have to go back"

~ Donald Trump

'I say a lot of shit that I don't mean or that isn't true just to pander to people who don't care about actual facts or objective reality. Some call those people stupid, I call them my base. I love stupid people'

~ Donald Trump*

*If he were actually honest. Which he isn't.

**Maanaam** · 08-08-2017, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Slick

"you have to go back"

~ Donald Trump

'I say a lot of shit that I don't mean or that isn't true just to pander to people who don't care about actual facts or objective reality. Some call those people stupid, I call them my base. I love stupid people'

~ Donald Trump*

*If he were actually honest. Which he isn't.

He did actually boast that he could shoot someone on the streets of New York and still get elected. It's saying the same thing as your lampoon.
Maher did a good segment with an Obama lookalike where he repeated verbatim some Trump quotes. That shooting one was one of them. Can you imagine if Obama had said that? It was a good segment by Maher.

**tomcat** · 08-08-2017, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Maher did a good segment with an Obama lookalike where he repeated verbatim some Trump quotes. That shooting one was one of them. Can you imagine if Obama had said that? It was a good segment by Maher.

see post #10996

**bsnub** · 08-08-2017, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Slick

So, illegal immigrants = good according to Nevertrumpers

They are necessary you fool. They wash the dishes, cook the food you eat in restaurants and pick the crops in the fields that would otherwise rot. You white trash would rather sit on the stoop of your trailers, deal meth and collect welfare then work those jobs.

BTW Nevertrumpers are republicans you retard.

https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/a...-against-trump

**David48atTD** · 08-08-2017, 03:45 PM

Referring to 'illegal immigrants' in the USA

Originally Posted by bsnub

They are necessary. They wash the dishes, cook the food you eat in restaurants and pick the crops in the fields that would otherwise rot.

Interesting

**Slick** · 08-08-2017, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Referring to 'illegal immigrants' in the USA

Originally Posted by bsnub

They are necessary. They wash the dishes, cook the food you eat in restaurants and pick the crops in the fields that would otherwise rot.

Interesting

Really is. Instead of promoting legal immigration, the opposition spins it like being there illegally is beneficial.

**SKkin** · 08-08-2017, 04:19 PM

Remember the story about the minerals in Afghanistan? Not to mention the poppies...

Trump Finds Reason for the U.S. to Remain in Afghanistan: Minerals
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/25/w...-deposits.html

Stephen A. Feinberg, a billionaire financier who is informally advising Mr. Trump on Afghanistan, is also looking into ways to exploit the country’s minerals, according to a person who has briefed him. Mr. Feinberg owns a large military contracting firm, DynCorp International, which could play a role in guarding mines — a major concern, given that some of Afghanistan’s richest deposits are in areas controlled by the Taliban.

Surprise surprise, another 13th Tribalist enriching himself via the MIC(courtesy of the taxpayers).

https://arxiv.org/abs/1208.1092

Trump, Obama, Bush II, Clinton, etc, etc., Cults of Personalities:

**harrybarracuda** · 08-08-2017, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Referring to 'illegal immigrants' in the USA

Originally Posted by bsnub

They are necessary. They wash the dishes, cook the food you eat in restaurants and pick the crops in the fields that would otherwise rot.

Interesting

Really is. Instead of promoting legal immigration, the opposition spins it like being there illegally is beneficial.

Don't be an arse all your life.

There was a Bipartisan bill on the table that would have passed, and which Obama was ready to sign when Boehner was in charge, but he cowed to his teaparty bosses and refused to put it to a vote.

The only people that are fucking up immigration are Republicans (as usual). They have been kicking the can down the road since that senile old fool Reagan was in the WH.

**bsnub** · 08-08-2017, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Slick

Really is. Instead of promoting legal immigration, the opposition spins it like being there illegally is beneficial.

They will still take the same jobs you utter imbecile. Legal or not.

**redhaze** · 08-08-2017, 05:29 PM

Probably one of the dumbest quotes ever by a politician and pretty much sums up why Americans don't pick crops. Its about wages, not the job.

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