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North East Thailand, The Isaan Forum Whether you spell it Issan,Isaan or Isarn, North Eastern Thailand is the home of the Surin Elephant Round up, the Yasothon Rocket Festival and the Nong Khai Fire Balls. Isaan contains some of the best examples of Khmer temples-The Phra That Phanom, Phimai Historical Park, the Prasat Hin Khao Phanom Rung and the Prasat Hin Phimai. Isaan is the gateway to Laos with bridges at Nong Khai and Mukdahan & includes Provinces such as Amnat Charoen, Buriram, Chaiyaphum, Kalasin, Khon Kaen, Korat, loei, Maha Sarakham, Nakhon Phanom, Nong Bua Lamphu, Roi Et, Sakon Nakhon, Sisaket, Surin, Ubon Ratchathani, Udon Thani & Yasothon.


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Old 08-03-2017, 10:11 AM   #251 (permalink)
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If you decide to live your life in LOS you better get ready to accept the fact that you're not shyte in the eyes of a Thai lady compared to her family.

It doesn't matter how f**ked up and dysfunctional her family is...until the parents are dead...the family will be your wife's Buddhist-duty and obligation. You're basically the vehicle and ATM.
Let's throw out the grannies and kids and you've reached this conclusion about roughly twenty million women based on your relationships with...how many, approximately?

However many, kudos to you. You must be a busy guy.
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I would worry about any woman who lacked the desire or capacity to live away from family. Especially if it's a deadend town.
If you decide to live your life in LOS you better get ready to accept the fact that you're not shyte in the eyes of a Thai lady compared to her family.

It doesn't matter how f**ked up and dysfunctional her family is...until the parents are dead...the family will be your wife's Buddhist-duty and obligation. You're basically the vehicle and ATM.

With time you assuredly will move up the bargepole.

NOW think what brought you to Thailand in the first place.
(Tired of paying 160 / US$200 an hour for sexual favours back home ?)
I think you've been conned by low class Thais. The ones I know are very generous.

But hey if that's the company you keep good luck!!!
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If you decide to live your life in LOS you better get ready to accept the fact that you're not shyte in the eyes of a Thai lady compared to her family.

It doesn't matter how f**ked up and dysfunctional her family is...until the parents are dead...the family will be your wife's Buddhist-duty and obligation. You're basically the vehicle and ATM.
Let's throw out the grannies and kids and you've reached this conclusion about roughly twenty million women based on your relationships with...how many, approximately?

However many, kudos to you. You must be a busy guy.
His experiences with bargirls no doubt and cleaned out time after time
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Why anyone would pay some stupid foreigner a handsome premium to have local Thais on shitty day rate build a house is beyond me. Why anyone would think that a foreigner doing houses in Isaan is some kind of professional is laughable
Slick, have you actually seen or been in any of his builds? There is certainly more to building than organizing Thais on a day rate. But you seem like a judgmental sort of guy so it's not surprising.

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Walk through Makro or Lotus or Robinson, same. Depressing mofos everywhere who avert any eye contact or pleasantries like the plague
I spend a lot of time in the local malls because my wife has shops in Buriram, Surin, Prasat and Sangkha. I see many farangs all the time busy with shopping and herding kids. It's rare to strike up conversations but it's because people are occupied with their own priorities. It does not mean they are anti-social. It's a pretty safe bet you are not going to be life long buds after a chance meeting in Tesco Lotus. You sound very cynical. Maybe provincial life in Thailand is the wrong place for a young guy in the prime of his life.
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Maybe provincial life in Thailand is the wrong place for a young guy in the prime of his life.
Nailed it.

Alot of people totally agree with my post, judging from my CP, and some dont, or want to somehow make this about me and my shortcomings. But in this case, you have to really want to live out there. I did when I first went. Not anymore.

Humbert I really dont give a fuck if anybody wants to defend allan or that crew.

Some like it out there and are content, and good on them, and alot are not, or are like me and after a while find it way to boring, tedious, and lacking.

Im not the first to voice these opinions of Isaan or Expats in Isaan and I wont be the last.
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I spend a lot of time in the local malls because my wife has shops in Buriram, Surin, Prasat and Sangkha. I see many farangs all the time busy with shopping and herding kids. It's rare to strike up conversations but it's because people are occupied with their own priorities. It does not mean they are anti-social.
You state this like Ive never been shopping before, or shopping somehow becomes voodoo because its in Thailand.

I get what you are saying, but for every normal human I meet there is usually several weirdos.

People may not like to hear/read this shit, and will certainly try and make this about me, but the truth remains - Isaan does not acquire very good examples of humanity. Myself included.

Regular, proud family expats herding children are not the norm.

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I do?

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Humbert I really dont give a fuck if anybody wants to defend allan or that crew.
I'm not defending Allan or that crew. I got booted out of the SF Forum. I'm just curious why you trash his building enterprise?

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Some like it out there and are content, and good on them, and alot are not, or are like me and after a while find it way to boring, tedious, and lacking.
Of course it is. I would never be here if I were in my career prime years. If I were young and living here it would indicate a sort of like surrender, laziness or a lack of interest in living.
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Slick, are you able to convince the good wife regarding a possible big move to the city?

Some just aren't cut out for country life.
And others have no desire to be comfortable within a metropolis setting.
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Slick, are you able to convince the good wife regarding a possible big move to the city?
Of course. The states too. It's true some have no desire to leave the hip of the family. Mine didn't really have any desire until we started going to the states and getting out of Thailand.

It's not like BKK is on another planet. 4-5 hours drive. Busses all day everyday. No crisis there.
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It's not like BKK is on another planet. 4-5 hours drive.
From Surin to Bangkok? Wow.
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It's not like BKK is on another planet. 4-5 hours drive.
From Surin to Bangkok? Wow.
4-5 hour commute indeed, Nev.

He obviously has never made that trip.

Which leads me to be suspicious still.

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Anthony Robertson springs to mind I never want to have anything to do with a Surin based anything thank you very much, having been there so many times and met some nasty Brits and Yanks there. Plus an ex gf who still owes me 20k, bitch
....Surin - most of the Farang scum and affiliated hang outs are concentrated in and around Mueang Surin and associate with their kin appropriately.

A sizable province, one just needs to find the very distant locale where any Farang neighbors are 50kms from anywhere.

Problem solved.
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There is a decent enough free government gym in town that has good free weights. Actually Free. Im over it though. 9 years is enough. Wasting the best years of my life with this shit.

This Surin Farang and Farang Connection clique is a laughable shitshow and "dave the dude" "alan the builder" etc. are fucking idiots.
Wheres this free Gym Mate? You on about the old Gym in that massive coliseum by the night market? Used to go there years ago, but when I pass there lately, its all locked up...
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Why the fuck would any farang want to live in a shit hole like Surin. When i read the headline of this thread issuing a warning i thought it was going to say that the average price of somtam has gone up 2 baht.....hence much anguished wailing and suicidal thoughts.
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Dunno gaz- depends on the individual I guess. Quite a few f'langs do live there and surrounds (enough for them to be thoroughly biatchy with each other, anyway!). How many times have you been there, how long have you spent there? I could quite easily live there personally- quite a buzzy town for it's size, and the farang comforts are easily enough available. Interesting contrast to Ubon, which while bigger has a much more sprawled out feel to it, and a lower per capita farang population.
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...and a lower per capita farang population.
Which can only be a plus, as it's usually a growing Farang community that creates the unlivability factor.....especially a culture like Surin, where it tends to segregate itself from "Thai".
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Dunno gaz- depends on the individual I guess. Quite a few f'langs do live there and surrounds (enough for them to be thoroughly biatchy with each other, anyway!). How many times have you been there, how long have you spent there? I could quite easily live there personally- quite a buzzy town for it's size, and the farang comforts are easily enough available. Interesting contrast to Ubon, which while bigger has a much more sprawled out feel to it, and a lower per capita farang population.
I once had a girlfriend from Surin and spent a week with her family. When i call the place a shithole im really meaning the village they stayed in. Rubbish everywhere, lethargic people just wandering around, all the blokes drinking at all hours and just a feeling of lost hope and desolation. Her family where very nice though even if they did have a bit of the voodoo about them.
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I once had a girlfriend from Surin and spent a week with her family. When i call the place a shithole im really meaning the village they stayed in. Rubbish everywhere, lethargic people just wandering around, all the blokes drinking at all hours and just a feeling of lost hope and desolation. Her family where very nice though even if they did have a bit of the voodoo about them.
You are very fortunate to have that experience as it will stand you in good stead for living in Scotland if it should ever become an independent nation.
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I once had a girlfriend from Surin and spent a week with her family. When i call the place a shithole im really meaning the village they stayed in. Rubbish everywhere, lethargic people just wandering around, all the blokes drinking at all hours and just a feeling of lost hope and desolation. Her family where very nice though even if they did have a bit of the voodoo about them.
You are very fortunate to have that experience as it will stand you in good stead for living in Scotland if it should ever become an independent nation.
Thats quite a witty one for you.....
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Which can only be a plus, as it's usually a growing Farang community that creates the unlivability factor.....especially a culture like Surin, where it tends to segregate itself from "Thai".
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I once had a girlfriend from Surin and spent a week with her family. When i call the place a shithole im really meaning the village they stayed in. Rubbish everywhere, lethargic people just wandering around, all the blokes drinking at all hours and just a feeling of lost hope and desolation. Her family where very nice though even if they did have a bit of the voodoo about them.
Segregating oneself is the only hope one has of hanging onto one's marbles living in these small villages. I really have no interest in sitting on a mat all day in a stupor interrupted only by tending fighting cocks or poking at a tree with a long stick.
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Understandably many of the Thai ladies that show an inkling of interest in "having a farang" come from the poorer families of Thailand understanding that 75% of the Kingdom would be considered "poorer" (if not more).
Their "job" is to get "you" to make their and their families lives better. Period.
All the rest is just the stories of how that has or hasn't worked out and whether or not they really give a shyte about 'the saviour' when he gets older.
Family first and foremost is job # 1 particularly if the parents are living without financial security.

Let's stop trying to be PC about all things good and wonderful. Please think about how you met your wives or girlfriends and carry on from there. Basically same as any other country.
My 2 satang.

[Caveat: Does not always hold true for ALL Thai ladeez, of course]
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I once had a girlfriend from Surin and spent a week with her family. When i call the place a shithole im really meaning the village they stayed in. Rubbish everywhere, lethargic people just wandering around, all the blokes drinking at all hours and just a feeling of lost hope and desolation. Her family where very nice though even if they did have a bit of the voodoo about them.
Segregating oneself is the only hope one has of hanging onto one's marbles living in these small villages. I really have no interest in sitting on a mat all day in a stupor interrupted only by tending fighting cocks or poking at a tree with a long stick.
Gary's former gf tale above is atypical of what one will find in the poor Isaan Tha villages. A younger man with nothing to lose might deem this exciting and vibrant and enjoy the change from the West's 9 to 5 grind and headaches.

Unfortunately the village vibe isn't conducive for everybody's mental or physical health.
Simply amazing how many Westerners can be found in and around town drinking to their troubles thinking it will ease their painful reality...though it rarely does.
Then again if one enjoys "wide open spaces" there can be plenty to be found in Isaan.

Basically it all comes down to each individual's expectations, dreams, goals, reality, age, health and pocketbook.

Life is a learning experience...unfortunately it is not for everyone. Some simply check out from depression.

In the end if you're happy or content that is all that matters.
If you're not take a good hard sober look in the mirror and ask yourself what change is required.
Sadly many stay mired in their misery and look to share it with others. One can either choose to avoid those situations or get sucked up into the crap that dwells in those conversations.

(Most of the stories we hear or read is just someone else's bullshyte. Take everything with a pinch of salt.)
Be happy...because if you're not - what exactly was the point anyhow.
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Perhaps. Perhaps not.

Depending on the textbook of proposed stereotypes/myths one imbibes.
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