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Insulin, the Obesity Epidemic and a Giant German Baby | DietDoctor.com




The obesity epidemic starts early in life: Germany has a new record for “heaviest baby”: 13,5 pound Jasleen. She was delivered without the help of a C-section.

• Huffington Post: Baby Jasleen, Born At 13.47 Pounds, Is Germany’s Heaviest Baby Born Vaginally
• CNN: Oh baby! Mother gives birth to 13-pound girl in Germany

The cause of heavy babies is often maternal obesity and gestational diabetes – conditions with abnormally high insulin levels. Insulin is a fat-storing growth hormone that does not just affect the mother but also the unborn child. The mother to Jasleen, not surprisingly, had gestational diabetes.
The most common cause of abnormally high insulin levels resulting in obesity and diabetes (and heavy babies) is eating excess carbs.
The smartest way to avoid these things is to avoid eating excess carbs. Why? A low-carb diet is an effective way to lower insulin levels. And normalizing the fat-storing hormone insulin tends to normalize weight for most people (and any present unborn babies).
So here’s another reason to do low carb: You won’t have to deliver a 13,5 pound baby.

The mother delivered naturally?! The article mentions that she had gestational diabetes, but she is not overweight. She looks like a typically petite Asian woman. This can prove that one doesn't need to be overweight to be prone to diabetes. I wonder if the child's health can be brought back easily.

I once caught something on NHK from Tokyo which mentioned that Japanese get diabetes at a much lower BMI than Europeans. It has something to do with having such a specific diet for so long which is different from European's whose diet has seen much more diversity. Europeans put on the weight then get diabetes. Thailand is out of control these days with all the sugar so its future can't be that good. I see plenty of morbidly obese Thais around who seem to have been born that way. Not sure it if is a sign on the changing times.

Great film Barbaro but not specifically a low carb film. It was more of a rant against Morgan Spurlock going off on McDonald's. Personally, I think that kids are affected a lot by their mothers carb intake along with chemical intake and every new generation's bodies are much more reactive to carb intake so its harder for them to stay fit. We are not living in a natural world anymore. Most don't eat anything near a natural diet so it's a constant struggle. To prove this you would have to go generations studying changes in children. I think somewhere back I heard that the children of smokers have a higher chance of getting cancer than their parents do if they smoke and their children will have even a higher chance. It might be similar to the idea that I am pushing. Just my thoughts on it. I still like the movie Fat head just the same as it does make some good points about food.

^ Yes, youneverknow,

"Fat Head" spend a lot of time critiquing Morton Sperlock's "Super Size Me" and seems that Sperlock bullshitted us. He added calories to hit the 5K, and never provided a food log diary to the many journalists and others who have asked to see it, even though he would have had to do one to keep track of meals and caloric intake.

Sperlock pulled a con. But "Fat Head" is not defender of Micky-Ds, just pointing out the of the myths and over-blown media attention.

The coveage of the "lipid hypothesis" was interesting as well as the rest of the doc.

Yes, we do nt eat natural foods anymore. And you noting the increasing carb intae and our mothers....that is very interesting.

Lately, I'm swaying to the idea that fat people are actually starving for vitamins and other nutrition. Overweight people get plenty of empty calories so they are not starving for calories. It's just specific nutrients and vitamins. Most of the food we get these days is processed and made from a lot of the same ingredients. It's also not fresh which means certain things are lost. They say by adding certain nutrients along to your regular diet you can change that 'starvation' and the cravings will slowly disappear. Another focus has been on the Omega-3 Omega-6 ratio. I guess in nature we take in much more omega-3 which is supposedly important for some internal processes. I would guess I am super-low in omega-3 intake. It's hard to follow all this stuff. I know there are healthy people who eat junk food and are just fine but for many it just can't be done. Some of us have screwed up metabolisms due to a lifetime of processed foods. It's not easy eating well if you don't have a full kitchen and access to a broad variety of foods as in the western supermarkets. Thailand has loads of fresh veggies but figuring out what nutritional value they have can be difficult. I think the route really is a path of awareness but not extremes. I've tried low carb a few times but have never been able to stick to it. It can be done but I think in the end you will probably end up eating less fats and proteins and more veggies. Plus everyday exercise takes a person to the healthiest weight.

Originally Posted by youneverknow

Lately, I'm swaying to the idea that fat people are actually starving for vitamins and other nutrition. Overweight people get plenty of empty calories so they are not starving for calories. It's just specific nutrients and vitamins. Most of the food we get these days is processed and made from a lot of the same ingredients. It's also not fresh which means certain things are lost. They say by adding certain nutrients along to your regular diet you can change that 'starvation' and the cravings will slowly disappear.

It seems obesity is a complex condition. There have been a few theories from an obesity gene to HFC proliferation in foods since 1975, to the massive increase in sugar consumption. And yes, most food is processed and the wheat we eat is not the same as the wheat our grandparents ate. Sedentary lifestyle. And yes, empty calories.

....I've tried low carb a few times but have never been able to stick to it. It can be done but I think in the end you will probably end up eating less fats and proteins and more veggies. Plus everyday exercise takes a person to the healthiest weight.

I am now cutting down on carbs. No drastic, but avoiding them. I don't count down to the exact amount but I am going from roughly 20 per day up to 80 and a 100. I am avoiding high glycemic foods which I usually do.

Originally Posted by barbaro

I am going from roughly 20 per day up to 80 and a 100.

So you're increasing carb intake a bit?






Another video from the Australian science program Catalyst, on ABC.

Toxic Sugar?









Here's a pretty good page on what's happening in supermarkets...


The World Is Fucking Insane: Exploring aisles 9-13 at my local supermarket.


https://medium.com/health-the-future/918b3d08f21f

Originally Posted by youneverknow

Originally Posted by barbaro

I am going from roughly 20 per day up to 80 and a 100.

So you're increasing carb intake a bit?

YNK,

I should have clarified more. I am varying the intake. Up and down. Yesterday was a low carb day and today will also be low.

But if I want to eat 3 slices of pizza (tomorrow for example, I will).

I lose weight on low carbs and make sure any carbs I eat are in the morning with the least at night ,cant say i enjoy it but once a year for about a month keeps my weight right and no alcohol sadly

The typical body builder diet is high in protein and fiber and low in carbohydrates and fat. Would you consider a body builder to prolly have got it right? (Minus the steroids, testosterone supplements and HGH, of course.) Why or why not?

I don't mention the exercise, which is obviously a major component of a body builder's lifestyle, because I have yet to hear of one who puts that first: nutrition always comes first.

bodybuilders in the first place want to build up muscles, thats why they prefer proteins over carbs, its not for "health" or balancing-reasons...

they go into a wanted "imbalance", by switching on things (with or without supplements), what of course has also some (unwanted) side effects...
thats why they have to - rather sooner than later - "counteract" a lot with hormones and stuff...

The Paleo Diet | Dr. Loren Cordain, Founder of the Paleo Diet Movement

This is how we should be eating IMO.

P A L E O ... from link above:

Eat:

• Grass-produced meats
• Fish/seafood
• Fresh fruits and veggies
• Eggs
• Nuts and seeds
• Healthful oils (Olive, walnut, flaxseed, macadamia, avocado, coconut)

Don’t eat:

• Cereal grains
• Legumes (including peanuts)
• Dairy
• Refined sugar
• Potatoes
• Processed foods
• Salt
• Refined vegetable oils (listed in The Paleo Diet Cookbook and The Paleo Diet for Athletes)

Paleo makes sense but the Paleo of today isn't reality. Some of the foods just don't exist in the same climates. Also, you could expect that Europeans went for a large part of the year without any fruit, veggies, or grains. Winter must have been all meat for the most part. Late Spring through the fall would have offered the other stuff. All the spices for foods were almost non existent. A lot or most of the meats probably weren't even cooked when eaten.

winter was all potatoes... ...yummy...


youneverknow, are you saying, that europeans might have lived "healthier" - previous generations ?

thats b.s. ... they lived very unhealthy - compared to our standards...
no much was really fresh, it wasnt balanced, in winter no vegetables and so on...

its "doctors" and other bullshitters that want us to believe, that our diet is "unhealthy", our lifestyle is unhealthy...
its not true...
neither lifestyle nor diet have ever been so "healthy"...
so rich, so various, so plenty...

I'm not saying they were healthier but who knows. When you look at wild animals, aren't they healthy? Are humans really incapable of living with nature like the rest of the beasts? All animals get sick at some point but generally aren't most wild animals healthy? As for Paleo that people are doing today, it's probably the best choice there is for a lot of people but people can't really believe that they are eating anywhere near humans from 10,000 years ago.

we are the healthiest of all humans ever...
never have people been that old and that fit for so long...

when you want to live "healthy", then leave the shit out of your system...
antibiotics, vaccinations, anti-depressants...

there are other natural treatments, not only herbs, but meditation and even huldas zapper...
herbs and meditation are proven, already for a looooong time for their effectiveness, huldas zapper (just as an example of something much ridiculed) is about to follow soon... similar devices show much success already...
dont think, because the arseholes in white are laughing and ridiculuing such things, it doesnt work... doctors are really not very bright in the head...

i also thought its b.s.... but when you dig into, you will find, that it makes SENSE... its LOGICAL from a medical point of view that huldas zapper "works" on various conditions... and its shocking, that these "things" havent been looked into much earlier and much more intense...

healthy living in our time is living without damaging medicine (as much as possible)...

Originally Posted by youneverknow

When you look at wild animals, aren't they healthy?

Yes of course. For the simple reason, as soon as they are not they die.

Ive got Type 2 Diabetes and to the diabetic its all about counting Carbs.

I was referred to a dietician when diagnosed and she filled me in on the drill.

For me its meals of consisting of 40 % carbs in any one sitting. Not hard to do at all when tuned in on how to read Carbs.

Especially easy to maintain in Thailand with all the fresh stir fried Veg around.

I'm not perfect on that figure but not bad as my diet has always been good.

If one is a fat fuk eating shit its a different story.

Originally Posted by Anatidaephobia

Ketogenic diet works very well - it's easy to implement, and easy to maintain.

I lost 45 lbs in 60-70 days 3 years ago using a ketogenic diet.

It's a very effective means to lose pure fat in a good amount time.

I know its a late reply to your post. But had to say, that I lost 30 lbs in 48 days doing the Ketogenic diet. Man its a relief to be rid of that disgusting belt stretching pot!!!

Originally Posted by alitongkat

bodybuilders in the first place want to build up muscles, thats why they prefer proteins over carbs, its not for "health" or balancing-reasons...

they go into a wanted "imbalance", by switching on things (with or without supplements), what of course has also some (unwanted) side effects...
thats why they have to - rather sooner than later - "counteract" a lot with hormones and stuff...

That's a bodybuilder. What he had to say about nutrition (from Wikipedia):

LaLanne blamed overly processed foods for many health problems. For most of his life, he advocated primarily a meat and vegetable diet; eating meat three times per day with eggs and fruit in morning and many servings of vegetables in afternoon and evening. [19] In his later years, he appears to advocate a mostly meatless diet but which included fish (see Pescetarianism),[20][21] and took vitamin supplements

That's pretty much what I described as a bodybuilder's diet. His feats:

(As reported on Jack LaLanne's website) These accounts are not necessarily entirely accurate descriptions of what LaLanne actually did. See the 1974 Alcatraz Island to Fisherman's Wharf swim (below) for an illustration of the difference between the website account and objective reporting of the same event.[citation needed]

• 1954 (age 40): swam the entire 8,981 feet (2,737 m) length of the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, under water, with 140 pounds (64 kg; 10 st) of air tanks and other equipment strapped to his body; a world record.[33]
• 1955 (age 41): swam from Alcatraz Island to Fisherman's Wharf in San Francisco while handcuffed. When interviewed afterwards he was quoted as saying that the worst thing about the ordeal was being handcuffed, which significantly reduced his chance to do a jumping jack.[citation needed]
• 1956 (age 42): set what was claimed as a world record of 1,033 push-ups in 23 minutes on You Asked For It,[34] a television program hosted by Art Baker.
• 1957 (age 43): swam the Golden Gate channel while towing a 2,500-pound (1,100 kg; 180 st) cabin cruiser. The swift ocean currents turned this one-mile (1.6 km) swim into a swimming distance of 6.5 miles (10.5 km).[33]
• 1958 (age 44): maneuvered a paddleboard nonstop from Farallon Islands to the San Francisco shore. The 30-mile (48 km) trip took 9.5 hours.[citation needed]
• 1959 (age 45): did 1,000 jumping jacks and 1,000 chin-ups in 1 hour, 22 minutes, to promote The Jack LaLanne Show going nationwide. LaLanne said this was the most difficult of his stunts, but only because the skin on his hands started ripping off during the chin-ups. He felt he couldn't stop because it would be seen as a public failure.[33]
• 1974 (age 60): For the second time, he swam from Alcatraz Island to Fisherman's Wharf. Again, he was handcuffed, but this time he was also shackled and towed a 1,000-pound (450 kg; 71 st) boat. At least that's according to his website. However, according to an account of this event published the day after it occurred in the Los Angeles Times, written by Philip Hager, a Times staff writer, LaLanne was neither handcuffed nor shackled if each of those terms has the unconventional meaning of "tightly binding the wrists or ankles together with a pair of metal fasteners" although that's not how handcuffs or shackles work. Hager says that LaLanne "had his hands and feet bound with cords that allowed minimal freedom". But "minimal" clearly did not mean "no" freedom, since elsewhere in the article Hager describes LaLanne's method of propulsion through the water as "half-breast-stroke, half-dog paddle" which is how you swim with your hands tied.[citation needed]
• 1975 (age 61): Repeating his performance of 21 years earlier, he again swam the entire length of the Golden Gate Bridge, underwater and handcuffed, but this time he was shackled and towed a 1,000-pound (450 kg; 71 st) boat.[citation needed]
• 1976 (age 62): To commemorate the "Spirit of '76", United States Bicentennial, he swam one mile (1.6 km) in Long Beach Harbor. He was handcuffed and shackled, and he towed 13 boats (representing the 13 original colonies) containing 76 people.[35]
• 1979 (age 65): towed 65 boats in Lake Ashinoko, near Tokyo, Japan. He was handcuffed and shackled, and the boats were filled with 6,500 pounds (2,900 kg; 460 st) of Louisiana Pacific wood pulp.[36]
• 1980 (age 66): towed 10 boats in North Miami, Florida. The boats carried 77 people, and he towed them for over one mile (1.6 km) in less than one hour.[citation needed]
• 1984 (age 70): handcuffed, shackled, and fighting strong winds and currents, he towed 70 rowboats, one with several guests, from the Queen's Way Bridge in the Long Beach Harbor to the Queen Mary, 1 mile.[37]

Age at death: 96. RIP