Thread: Everything low carb diet

Thanks for the link Natalie. I like the look of that soup. It would take some time for me to build up a kitchen here in Thailand. As it is, I don't have access to the western or imported stuff. So starting off everything would have an Asian touch to it. Here on TD I've seen some great stuff in the food section. I know all veggie foods can be delicious without sugar at all. I've had my share here in there in life on occasion. I can't say I have ever really tried veggie food out here in Thailand though. I'm sure BKK and the other tourist areas has some. One thing I'd like to get away from is the rice.

What you could do is get a nice, large, good name toaster oven. You could then make nice one dish meals in it. With all the nice fresh meats and veggies in Thailand, you could have a good variety. I know about the Asian slant on everything, but that's OK.

You could do Asian style dishes in it. If you like fish, you could put it in foil, add lemongrass, chili, garlic and lime and you're all set. You could also make nice salads with any veggies, really. Just add a bit of olice oil and apple cider vinegar. I'm pretty sure you can get that all over Thailand.

Originally Posted by natalie8

Lorenzo, that looks really nice. I like your placemat too.

lol

that placemat is over 20 years old, still has the old USSR borders

:-D It's a keepsake, then.

^ probably quite low in calories too

toaster oven.

I've got one. I have made decent pizza in it but never tried cooking a fish. I'll have to give that a try to see how it comes out.

hI, is this possible if we eat sweet so we would say sweet, but if we talk about about sugar, ya it's sweet but creating a disease as well....

Originally Posted by elofmark

hI, is this possible if we eat sweet so we would say sweet, but if we talk about about sugar, ya it's sweet but creating a disease as well....

Best sugar you can eat is fructose.

Fructose:
It's fruit sugar, found in all fruits and honey.

It is a diabetic friendly sugar.

Totally insulin digestible!

WAKE UP!!!!!

ENT did you watch this? It's all about Fructose. This guy definitely doesn't agree with you.

Originally Posted by ENT

Best sugar you can eat is fructose.

Fail.

The sugars found naturally in fruits and vege's are fine. There are several natural sugars.
HFCS- High fructose corn syrup- is a killer, it's worse than added sucrose.

Originally Posted by sabang

The sugars found naturally in fruits and vege's are fine.

That unfortunately is not correct.

The fructose found in fruit and especially in honey is the same as in corn syrup. You cannot assume they work differently in the body. However I would agree you are less likely to get too much of it in natural products unless you consume a lot of honey.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

That unfortunately is not correct.

OK, be pedantic. The quantities you get from the ingestion of natural foods are fine.
A can of Coke contains close to one tablespoon of HFCS. That is really, really bad.
Honey is not a substitute for sugar btw, neither is it a health food. It's just another sugar.

Originally Posted by sabang

OK, be pedantic.

OK, I was.

Originally Posted by sabang

The quantities you get from the ingestion of natural foods are fine.

My statement too, with the exception of honey. With honey you can easily get to problematic levels. Problematic for some, for many others not. But you don't know in which group you are.

Originally Posted by sabang

Honey is not a substitute for sugar

But some use it that way or recommend it as a "healthy" replacement for sugar.

Originally Posted by sabang

neither is it a health food. It's just another sugar.

Another sugar, containing a lot of fructose. Yet many see it as health food. And it may be in special cases, I believe.

Fruits are full of sugar because they have been selectively bred that way and fruit juice is even worse, yet they are both promoted as a healthy option.

Most fruit juices have added sugar unfortunately.

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by ENT

Best sugar you can eat is fructose.

Fail.

The sugars found naturally in fruits and vege's are fine. There are several natural sugars.
HFCS- High fructose corn syrup- is a killer, it's worse than added sucrose.

Wrong.

Depends how much you habitually use.
If you normally have a lot of added sugar in your diet, you'll get sick, same as too much carbs in any form.

Fructose is the main sugar of fruit.
It is the sugar in honey.

Eaten in those forms it is harmless.
Concentrated doses of any sugar, especially over-refined sugars, causes enzyme depletion, your liver has to overwork to cope.

You can safely burn off sugars through working it off as in physical exercises or any stressful action, study, etc.

Fructose stands pretty much along with glucose, lactose and maltose in energy value, but does not screw up the insulin level in the body, esp as in the case of sucrose.
Recommended for diabetics.

Originally Posted by ENT

Recommended for diabetics.

One of the many outdated myths about food and diets.


Clues seen to how fructose may promote diabetes

Reuters article

Believing in something is better than not. Personally, you haven't convinced me, but I think faith and commitment leads down many roads towards good health. It's the people like me who are non-believers and un-commited in their actions who will truly suffer bad health.

Anyways, if you are interested in other info/ opinions on Lustig. He's not against all fruit by the way.

Happy Healthy Long Life: Dr. Robert H. Lustig and the Bitter Truth About Sugar - It's the Driving Force Behind Obesity, Type-2 Diabetes, Hypertension, Small Dense LDL Cholesterol and the List Goes On. What's the Cure?

Robert H. Lustig, MD Biography / UCSF Center for Obesity Assessment, Study&Treatment (COAST)

^A non believer?
How dare you!

Welcome to the club mate.

I don't believe anything either.

Faith or trust in something is a different issue, though.

Confidence in the effect of some course of action or another is necessary just to get results.
Such confidence is more than belief, it is based on reason.

Belief is for those who do not know.

Good luck mate.

Thanks, ENT. Same to you.

it is only a killer if you eat too much and you are a fat bastard

Another low carb clip (from another thread) Nothing really new in this but it might be interesting to some.

Another Dr on the topic. Mostly LCHF -Low Carb High Fat

Another one...