Thread: Cancer sucks

I have read many books - about many things. Always looking for the "answer".
I have a friend - wife with terminal cancer. HE is fighting, fighting, fighting.
My suggestion - MYOB! Let the lady - "RIP" (if that is what she wants). If it is not, provide her with everything available.
I could go to Maya - USA. Why no? I have had enough. Let me RIP.

cnx37;

We all sympathize with you. There but for the grace of God go I.

In defense of the other posters, they are just trying to help. Possibly you believe their efforts are misguided and/or possibly of no value, well, they are responding, as opposed to ignoring.

I can’t speak for all, but, your situation hits home in that it reminds us of just how “weak” and ineffectual we are. Whenever we are presented with a problem we hope, no, we expect to be able to fix it. Well, we can’t fix your problem. So, if you feel the posts are ineffectual, offensive, or of no use, then give them the attention they deserve and ignore them.

Anyway, off my soap box, please do not take offense at anything I have said. We all do sympathize with your situation and are thankful we are not in your shoes.

Realize, we all are on your team.

Earlier you felt like talking, I’ll listen, vent to your hearts content, my friend.

bowie - you certainly have AA knowledge/awareness.
I did not even realize that other posters were offensive - whatever.
Our "place" in life - "spicks & specks". The BGs - omitted them from my "like list". Yes, they were Poms- forgiven. But came to Queensland, Oz as young boys. One died at an early age. Barry, Robin & ??? (dead) (the younger 2 were twins).
Hey, you guys - say anything - except nothing! I am an avid follower of this thread.

Just found out my Mum has bowel cancer.
That's all we know at this stage.

cnx37 has stated that cancer is in remission. His problem at the moment is with pain.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Just found out my Mum has bowel cancer.
That's all we know at this stage.

Sorry to hear that, koojo. Hopefully it is contained.

Did she find this out in a regular check-up or was she having symptoms? Just curious.

Today, hospital again - pain - too much.
Administration of local anaesthetic - followed by injection just below the left eye. Procedure is quite painful. Ingredient - phenol ??? phenyl ???
Total procedure - 30min.
The medical fraternity here in LOS - very gentle, very kind - doctor & nurses. People of LOS - similar from my experience - a protected environment in Nth Thailand cf BKK, Pattaya? $$$ - of course, we ALL want more.
Am I happy today? Not really.
I wanted to be in two places at once - hospital & group conscience @ AA. At the meeting I attend, there are a couple of members who "test" me. They love to talk - too bloody much - sharing experience, strength & hope - 99% experience - other - what are you talking about?
Read some of the article - #413 - difficult to concentrate & interest?
Whilst lying on the operating table, I think! Dangerous occupation for me? I think - God - why are you doing this to me? Australian "family" - note "" - arseholes! My Thai family - TOO GOOD!
From here - my secret!
Finally, coming home from the hospital, a song on a CD. "Cocaine" - which band/singer?
Difference - marijuana, yabba, ganja. Now, cocaine v marijuana?
That's all folks!

THIS THREAD IS BECOMING VERY POPULAR! MY IMPACT, I GUESS.

In my previous post - #418, I referred to a painkiller used today - phenol or phenyl. Upon researching the 'net, neither is applicable. I did ask the doctor & even spelt "phenyl" - "yes". Any ideas?

Have you tried the painkiller marijuana?

Originally Posted by Koojo

Have you tried the painkiller marijuana?

Quality question! Response - not today BUT it is "one day at a time".
For many, the logic is very simple.
For me, complex.
a) I am a sober member of AA - 30+years.
b) illegality
c) my wife is VERY much against its usage.

What would you do in my situation? (not that it really matters - my call!)

Originally Posted by cnx37

In my previous post - #418, I referred to a painkiller used today - phenol or phenyl. Upon researching the 'net, neither is applicable. I did ask the doctor & even spelt "phenyl" - "yes". Any ideas?

N-(1-(2-phenylethyl)-4-piperidinyl)-N-phenylpropanamide

also known as Fentanyl. 50-100 times more potent than morphine.

Fentanyl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



And "Cocaine" was originally performed by Eric Clapton.

nidhogg - very prompt & very informative.
"Cocaine" - it all comes back ie Eric Clapton. I have several DVDs covering "live shows" - they are all in storage at present. What wonderful days? Talent - a first? Maybe the Mozart et al days?
Fentanyl - I recollect using such patches for "pain control" - I thought it to be just a brand name under morphine. Wow! 50 times stronger than "M". Morphine packed a punch - it is no wonder I was "off the air".
"Takeovers" - yes, a big "call". After much, much deliberation, I have chosen - "NO!" My wife (Thai) did have a strong influence re this. Priorities - I want both!
To all out there - be it cancer, other or just plain living, I wish you well!
Mr Earl - message received - loud & clear. Thanks BUT no thanks.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

What have you got to lose at this point except your pain?

The little bit of dignity and self respect he has left I would think.

Koojo, basically, I agree with your idea.
There is one "important" omission -
"my wife is VERY much against its usage".
On my own, I think that I could/would be swayed - at least practical research. However, this is not the case. I have been told that it is detectable when you use it - smell. Disguise/deceit - not really helpful.
So, in my spare time, I just study & apply Mr Earl's reference. Thank you, Mr Earl.

Originally Posted by Koojo

A: There is no correlation between alcohol and weed.
Smoking weed isn't going to make you want to go out and get drunk.

.

If anything cannabis reduces ones desire for alcohol. I was visiting a pal in California recently and he gave me some of his medical pot and I drank much less as a result. I don't like smoking much, gives me a cough. I did sleep great though. It is a great pain killer with little to no side effects,( you can't say that about the nasty allopathic poisons the doctors shoot you up with).
Trouble here in Thailand is it's hard to get and I'd never chance buying from someone I didn't know well. I'd sure like to get some.

Originally Posted by cnx37

I have been told that it is detectable when you use it - smell.

Only when you smoke a lot, at one time. Same as cigarettes. Except you don't really stink like with them. It's quite a pleasant smell, actually....quite aromatic.

And tell your wife to look at how many older women use it....any really enjoy it.

Sheesh. Cnx37 has said time and again his wife is against it. He has also said several times his wife is his bedrock.

Leave it out guys.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Sheesh. Cnx37 has said time and again his wife is against it. He has also said several times his wife is his bedrock.

Leave it out guys.

Well the illegality is the big problem here. The last thing anyone needs is a hassle with the popo.
That and smoking anything with the kind of cancer he's got isn't the best idea, (I just now read back a few pages of this thread)

If hemp oil was available that would be the ticket. One would have to know a grower and contract them to make it.

Ok....but may we politely inquire about what specifically she has against it ?

cnx37;

You have your situation under control. You have done your homework, you (and your family) are the ones who are living with this disease, not only day-by-day, but minute-by-minute.

Please continue to use this forum as a sounding board. It provides a great deal of information, and, at the very least it provides communications, one of the most important avenues needed to retain sanity.

All posters are on your side. Offering anything they can to hopefully help you. Mr. Earl has done more research into one “option” than anybody else I know of. As it isn’t for you, so be it, it isn’t for you, the information was provided with genuine concern.

As far as the ganga question, abide by your wife’s wishes, she is the strongest weapon you have in your arsenal.

As far as the impact of medications on your sobriety, with the big C all bets are off, do what you need to do, period. Thirty years of sobriety – you can and have taken control of your life, I salute you.

Fight and fight hard, maintain your quality of life, we are all on your team.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Just found out my Mum has bowel cancer.
That's all we know at this stage.

Koojo; my condolences.