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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
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    I wonder why the topic goes from building a house for an extended family to being the kids raised as Thais
    Because that's what my conversations do.

    Corrected your grammar. No need to thank me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sicknote
    Rather than having your study and bathroom at either end of your studio why don't you have them side by side? You can rotate the bathroom 90 deg. This could allow you to move 'their bathroom' so the two bathrooms are also side by side to make plumbing easier.
    Excellent idea. There's no real reason 'their bathroom' needs to be between the two bedrooms and will be going with the dawg's advice and canning the doors from bedrooms to central bathroom anyway.

    I like the Idea of re-arranging 'our' space and imagine it could give it some dimension and more interesting than a square room.

    Quote Originally Posted by somchit srimoon
    site orientation and scale is needed to make more informed suggestions.
    I got you pegged as the same troll that has tried several times to pose as a Thai chick with bad broken Engrish on this forum. Though your input is appreciated. As soon as I got measurements and scale I will post them and also re-do the plan to semi-scale with necessary amendments.

    Quote Originally Posted by somchit srimoon
    I do wonder about the long term practicality of the Idea of single room wing for you and your kid on the way.
    I didn't really make it clear, this is definately not intended to be a permanent residence for us. Just the parents and sister in law.

    It is a safety net for if we're ever on the bones of our arse but I end up settling down with my immediate family and in-laws in the same modest sized house in Lamphun then I guess I've failed at life.

    This is where we will store everything when/if we come to Australia long term, and stay when we visit (I'd probably get a room in Chiang Mai as well). It's somewhere for our kids to stay when they visit their grand parents. It's somewhere for me to crash when the uncles pump me full of whisky every April. It's not where I intend to live and raise my children.

    Quote Originally Posted by somchit srimoon
    Since land space is not a concern maybe better to invest in an additional room now for a extra play/bed room for when the child starts to walk as seems a little short sighted design wise to expatiation later with minimal cost or interruption to current layout use.
    Good idea and actually already in the pipeline. The sister in law is severely handicapped with down syndrome. She never leaves the house, and all this will be very traumatic for her. We were thinking of constructing a small stand-alone room to ease her into before the place she's barely stepped foot out of in her 22 years is ripped down.

    Space is not a complete free for all. It is limited but there should be enough for a separate dwelling - so now the idea of making two buildings, 'ours' and 'theirs' comes to mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by somchit srimoon
    I do wonder about the layout and design with regards to the plot and sight lines.
    Don't worry about sight lines. There's nothing to see. I love a good view so another reason why I wouldn't choose this place to build the dream house to settle in for life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    I'd never have the kids sleeping with me
    Not in a tent when camping? or a hotel while on holidays?

    Quote Originally Posted by somchit srimoon
    Make sure your rates are actually locked in for your term
    Thanks for the tip. This might even be paid for in cash if the AUD keeps surging like this. Go the AUD you bloody good thing!

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    We have recently completed an 'L' shaped extension to the 'L' shaped 'family' house I had built five years ago in my wife's village. It gives us a self-contained extra bedroom, bathroom, living room and kitchen (ie our own private quarters!) away from the daily hubbub of Thai life in the main house. The 'square O' resulting from the two joined 'L' shaped buildings has a large ornamental fish-pond in the central open area with one side of the square roofed but left open and that is an extension of the original car-port.
    My point is (sorry it's taken so long!) that I designed the whole thing and produced detailed drawings (any angle, any view) automatically for the builder using Google SketchUp - brilliant FREE downloaded software from Google. OK it takes a bit of time to learn to use it but the results are really great - eg you can even furnish the house and 'walk through' it, get 'X-ray' images and any dimensions you like.
    The finished job looks exactly like the images on SketchUp, in fact it has exceeded my expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999
    Not in a tent when camping? or a hotel while on holidays?
    Preferably not, no.

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    put the carport patio area between your part and the parents

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    OK, after much consideration, taking into account suggestions from this thread, the needs of the parents and sister, as well as ourselves, and working efficiently in the area available, we have come up with these plans.

    Just to re-iterate, this is not intended to be our family home living in the village with the inlaws. It's our safety net and somewhere for us and our daughter to stay with family when we live in Aus. and visit Thailand. After it's finished, I'll live in it for as long as I can bare and while our kid is still an infant, also keep a condo in Chiang Mai.

    There are some alterations to be made to these preliminary scale plans, wanted to also get some feedback here before getting the final plans completed and approved:




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    Rather than the main bathroom being at the front of the house it will be wedged between the two main bedrooms with only 1 entry from the living area. That's breaking a golden rule according to one poster but ah well, think there are a few rules broken with this plan in the name of personal preference and practicality.

    They wanted an extra toilet for pissed guests to use and jammed it up next to what they want as a small buddha room. It looked rather silly to me. So the bedroom will be extended up with a small buddha room down the end, then we can build a little outdoor dunny for the pissed guests.

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    oh yeah, the front of the house, parallel to the office, is facing close enough to due east.

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    Your plan has three bathrooms. Two of them very small ones. Whats with the hawng pra at the front of the house ? Why not leave that open as part of the main room? Good place for the front door.
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    Good luck with it all mate , all living together , you must have a very nice close family .

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    ^^ 3rd small bathroom has been canned. Yeah it's not very spacious but should work ok. Ithink the main bathroom will be bigger.

    What's hawng pra?

    ^ The inlaws are nice enough. The area set aside for my immediate family is fine until the kid(s) grow up a bit. Then when older the whole wing can be their crib in Thailand. Thge inlaws are well happy with the size/layout of their wing.

    It'll probably do my head in after a short time and we'll buy or rent house/land in Chiang Mai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999 View Post
    What's hawng pra?

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    Buddha Room that's what the thai writting says.

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    ^ Ah yeah. That's actually the back of the house. That was a toilet next to Buddha house but that's the toilet we're canning, maybe an outhouse outside somehwhere instead. So that will be a small room flipped 90 degrees take make the parents room or bathroom bigger. The 'Hawng Phra' is important to the parents so I don't wanna fuk with that.

    We're yet to work out the exit / entry points and windows. Likely a sliding door at the front, side into my wing, and exit from the back of the kitchen, and I had the idea of putting an open serving bench in the kitchen opening out to the outside part that makes up a square and will be a patio / outdoor piss-up area.

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    Unfortunately this is not going to ready realistically before June. I was hoping for by April, when all the workers in the family return to their houses and extended families and it's a non-stop party. Wanted to have a house opening ceremony then. Ah well.

    A lot of the time is taken up by preparation and demolition, and dependent on the master builder's schedule who is also a family member. So still plenty of time to change the plan, with the scope of the shape and size given.

    Any input is appreciated and feel free to criticize. Cheers.

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    No more feedback guys? I guess I got the perfect plan nutted down the eh

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    ^ 99999999999999, I was just wondering, and please don't take thi as a criticism, why, if it's just an occasional house for you and a main house for the inlaws, is your living area is so much larger than theirs; shouldn't that be the other way round? Will they resent that? (I would if I was them).
    How do I post these pictures???

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    ^ Nah, they're all for it. The land was given to my missus and they want her and grand children comfortable. They were the ones that wanted us to allocate a large living area. They want us to be able to come and visit in comfort. If just for them, it would have been a cheap house of similar size to their wing with a large outdoor entertaining area. So you can look it at more as two houses jammed together, a small one for them and a studio style for us. A poster suggested separating them with the car space but that would not have been practicle, though a good idea indeed.

    They are quite minimalist (not dirt poor peasants though) and more concerned about kitchen / outdoor area than the inside of the house, as long as there's a 'hawng phra' and everyone sleeps with their head pointing west towards the setting sun. It will be fitted out nicely and they're overjoyed that this is going ahead.

    I think in a way they are hoping we stay and live there forever. But they understand educating the kid(s) in Australia will give them the best shot in life.
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    ^ All that being said, I'm not quite clear of the dimensions in my head. Just how small is the living area and bedrooms for the inlaws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    please don't take thi as a criticism
    Don't worry, criticism is what I'm after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999
    I think in a way they are hoping we stay and live there forever.
    This might be the rub; they're hoping you spend lots of time there; makes sense.

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    All that being said, I'm not quite clear of the dimensions in my head. Just how small is the living area and bedrooms for the inlaws?
    Fair enough.

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    Well it's been a while but we have made some progress. The Inlaws refused to pay tea monry to have the plans approved by the council in a timely fashion so they took about 3 months. The old house has now been demolished and timber and scraps sold off. While get some pictures of the building area. For now, here are the plans, though there needs to be some minor changes (sliding door at the side for mine and wife's wing) and have not done anything in the way of choosing materials. This could well go over the 700K budget if we go for decent fittings etc...






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    This is the de-construction. The family and friends pitched in to take down the top story of the old house made of wood. We managed to sell the wood for 30K picked up which I thought was a good deal. The concrete foundation poles and bricks were smash into rubble and we paid an eart moving company to remove it / flatten the the ground. More pics of the epty space to come...we still need to buy dirt to fill in the hole of the sunken old house.




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    Yes you can be surprised by the money you can re coup from selling the old wood , I had a friend in Nam Som did a similar deal when he had the old place dismantled to make way for his new build , I'm not sure of the amount but I do remember when he told me I was surprised .

    Should begin to take shape soon
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    No offense but that design looks kind of toasty, small rooms with few windows. I'd suggest you spend some money on roof insulation. Won't solve the problem but will keep the April heat down a bit.

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    It looks like a fairly typical modern house; I can't read the measurements though

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