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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa
    set up a pump bypass as well, ie a pipe from the mains direct into the house. That way, you still get some water into the house from the mains in the event of a power cut.
    What? Gravity feed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan View Post
    No I mean just the stainless tanks you see up high on hotel roofs and up on frames fro peoples homes
    The 1250 liter SS tank is the most common size. Stores enough H2O for when your local Arbatoor has a problem with his supply pump and you have nothing coming in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
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    set up a pump bypass as well, ie a pipe from the mains direct into the house. That way, you still get some water into the house from the mains in the event of a power cut.
    What? Gravity feed?
    No, not gravity. It's hard to explain without a picture, but I'll try.

    We have a single mains pipe in from the street. This feeds the tank. The tank feeds the on-demand pump, and the pump supplies water into the house. But when there's a power cut, the pump doesn't function, so we have no water. So, we got the guys to put in an extra length of pipe which simply bypasses both the tank and the pump. When there's a power cut, we can still draw water from the bypass mains supply. The pressure is crap, but it's enough to wash dishes, fill buckets and whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa View Post

    We have a single mains pipe in from the street. This feeds the tank. The tank feeds the on-demand pump, and the pump supplies water into the house. But when there's a power cut, the pump doesn't function, so we have no water. So, we got the guys to put in an extra length of pipe which simply bypasses both the tank and the pump. When there's a power cut, we can still draw water from the bypass mains supply. The pressure is crap, but it's enough to wash dishes, fill buckets and whatever.
    That's how mine is plumbed too. Have two bypass valves which are thrown when power is interrupted and we have H2O supply enough to flush toilets and the rest of the stuff you mentioned.

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    Nig, When I had my house built 5 years or so ago, I had a hot water heater tank installed under the sink cabinet in the guest bathroom. It's capacity is approximately 10 gallons (38 liters), can be turned on and off, is insulated and keeps the water hot for an extended period of time, requires hot water tubing to be run to the showers and sinks faucets that you want to have hot water dispersed and works well without having the unseemly hot water heaters that are so often visible in the shower rooms. As I recall, I purchased this hot water tank at "Home Works"... They had different sizes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa
    but it's enough to wash dishes, fill buckets and whatever. __________________
    I see...hummm...never thought of that, but worth a look. Are you single story or double?

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    the mains where we live is often very weak, hardly gets enough pressure to fill the tank some days

    we have to water the garden using the tank and pump

    they should upgrade it as where we converted the house, which is not far away, the mains pressure is excellent
    I have reported your post

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    All of these set ups must have a bypass in case of a power cut, you simply change over some valves and you can have water directly from your street supply or from your tank and pump.

    One trick some assholes do is to just put a pump in from the street supply to boost their pressure but this reduces the pressure to everyone else's homes. May be the reason you have crap pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bung
    One trick some assholes do is to just put a pump in from the street supply
    How many last? I would think some tricky sort would cart it off in a hurry, let alone the water meter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bung View Post
    One trick some assholes do is to just put a pump in from the street supply to boost their pressure but this reduces the pressure to everyone else's homes. May be the reason you have crap pressure.
    I most houses in Bangkok do this. Small Hitachi whatever sucks from the mains pressurizes the house.

    My office shop house is like that, as is my neighbour as is...

    There is enough mains pressure to get water to the ground floor sink or to clean a car outside with a hose but not enough to get to the "executive" toilet on the third floor.

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    Friend built a bar. They had underground tank with a simple ballcock, pump to fill from underground to a tank on the roof above 3rd floor. Power outage they had water on the roof, water outage they had about 2500 gallons on the premises for toilets etc.

    There was a booster pump on the roof to give enough pressure to a shower on the floor below the water tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
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    One trick some assholes do is to just put a pump in from the street supply
    How many last? I would think some tricky sort would cart it off in a hurry, let alone the water meter.

    our first house was like that! but the water meter man told us it was illegal so we changed it to a feeder tank and pump after that

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    I'm pretty sure it's illegal and at best it is inconsiderate of your neighbours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
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    but it's enough to wash dishes, fill buckets and whatever. __________________
    Are you single story or double?
    Single.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bung View Post
    All of these set ups must have a bypass in case of a power cut, you simply change over some valves and you can have water directly from your street supply or from your tank and pump.

    One trick some assholes do is to just put a pump in from the street supply to boost their pressure but this reduces the pressure to everyone else's homes. May be the reason you have crap pressure.
    I was one of those assholes, before they renewed the mains in the road. The water pressure was so pathetic, you could have an early morning shower but 15 hours later the damn tank would still be filling. Illegal, yes, inconsiderate, yes, effective, yes.
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    Your neighbours must have taken showers in sarongs out of urns in their yards....

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    When the power goes out in our Muang I think it must affect the local water treatment facility as well? That's why I never thought that a "by-pass," would be effective means of circumventing the power loss?

    I suspect that all those independent by-pass pumps actually drain the mains of what ever amount of standing water and other crap caught in them. Not that its still in service?

    Think about all the crap that has accumulated in those pipes over the years and then you turn on your by-pass pumps and suck it all into your water storage and in house plumbing? Nasty stuff!

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    Well, we've had power cuts, and water cuts, but never both at the same time. Maybe we're just lucky. I don't have a pump to help the mains pressure any more, 'cos they renewed the mains and the pressure's ok. Not spectacular, but ok for normal household stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa View Post
    Well, we've had power cuts, and water cuts, but never both at the same time. Maybe we're just lucky. I don't have a pump to help the mains pressure any more, 'cos they renewed the mains and the pressure's ok. Not spectacular, but ok for normal household stuff.
    My mains pressure from the moo is not all that great so we needed to install a on-demand pressure pump. Works good to when mot daeng don't get into the pressure switch! Red ants are bad this year.

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