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    should have took more notice of mr e.powell many moons ago ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by spikebs4 View Post
    should have took more notice of mr e.powell many moons ago ....
    Starting to look like a fucking visionary, isn't he?

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    very good speaker who spoke the truth, way ahead of his time,but his ideals were not the same as the majority of parliament, might have made a good p.m...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNemo View Post
    Instead of investing in the native people and expanding the training or giving tax breaks to firms to take more trainees on, the government then decided to let in "a few thousand" Polish, and in short order that became well over a million in total (obviously across sectors, but the point remains), and a lot of British people prepared to get off their arses and work, were completely betrayed and let down, by of all people, the Labour party.
    In the state of Queensland, Australia, the very same thing happened in recent years (though for all I know, it may have been an Australia-wide phenomenon).
    In about 2008, people suddenly noticed that taxi drivers were predominantly Indian (and some other Eastern races). It turned out that the Labour government had decided to address the slight lack of taxi drivers by allowing foreign students to work....even if they had been in Australia for a short time and had only just got their Aussie drivers licences. So the floodgates were opened....to address a slight lack.
    This caused all sorts of problems, including frustration amongst the public because of the drivers' poor English, resulting in people being taken the wrong way.....sometimes purposely.....people were sometimes overcharged....drivers were rorting the system in different ways.
    More cabs were on the roads as there were plenty of people to drive them. This meant less work for each driver.
    Then the Global Financial crisis slowly marched in, and less people took taxis, and so the Caucasian drivers found they were taking up to a 50% cut in pay, as the Indians (and others) were prepared to earn less, and were rorting the system in different ways.
    Members of the public were complaining left, right, and centre about poor service, but the government was deaf. Aussie cab drivers had left in droves. Finally the outcry was too large, and the system was changed.....but too late for a group of Caucasian Australians who were one of the most marginalized groups of workers. Gawd knows what happened to a lot of them. A few of the old ones survived, but it was too little, too late for the rest.
    The stupid thing was that the 2 major cab companies were being paid to train the foreign drivers, so they didn't complain......even when the public were complaining about the new drivers' poor training and testing (by the companies, of course !).
    Cabbies are often people who simply don't fit into other jobs for various reasons, and the Labour government instituted a system where they were driven out of their jobs due to the GFC plus foreign students being allowed to work and compete with them.
    Thanks, Labour !
    It was very suspicious that Labour's Transport Minister in Queensland was (is ?) a lady whose husband is Indian.....
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    As long as people view it as Us and Them, it will never improve.

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    Er, by the way the Polish and any other Europeans are allowed to work in England, it's called freedom of labour and any Briton has the same rights elsewhere in Europe.

    Who put us into Europe anyway?

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    Do the other 29% think there are too many Britons?

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    The last really good immigrants to arrive in Britain were the Romans---(OK not exactly immigrants in the usual sense); but they all left again after a while.
    Shame really, they built some damn fine bridges and set the gold standard for walls and bath houses. I think the only ones who actually put more in than they took out.

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    Always makes me laugh that- no one kicked them out, they just buggered off on their own accord when the easy Tin ran out. No doubt they left complaining bitterly about the weather and food- some things don't change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    You're probably right. We're 'guests' not immigrants. Boy how I hate the word 'guest' !!
    Actually we are classed as 'ALIANS' just for the record.

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    sabang/the roman army llf buggered off because they had bigger problems closer to home /rome/and needed the troops,and britain was always veiwed as a back-water nation..so not much to lose...after 400yrs on these shores most of the population would not have called themselves brits or what ever.. britain/england are properly one of the most conquered countrys in the world... but the foods still crap and the weather shite ..llf

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Always makes me laugh that- no one kicked them out, they just buggered off on their own accord when the easy Tin ran out. No doubt they left complaining bitterly about the weather and food- some things don't change.
    So, the Roman Empire fell apart because of tin deposits in Britannia? I think not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spikebs4 View Post
    sabang/the roman army llf buggered off because they had bigger problems closer to home /rome/and needed the troops,and britain was always veiwed as a back-water nation..so not much to lose...after 400yrs on these shores most of the population would not have called themselves brits or what ever.. britain/england are properly one of the most conquered countrys in the world... but the foods still crap and the weather shite ..llf
    English food is excellent.

    Unfortunately the immigrants have bought all that shit curry and nouvelle gob shite which, along with the tasteless gruel that Americans call food, has made it somewhat hard to find.
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    Would be interested if a similar poll was taken in Australia,my gut feel is that it would be about the same as the UK. Selective immigration would be my goal.
    Discriminatory for sure but who wants us to go down the same path as the Brits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    English food is excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by "harrybarracuda"
    English food is excellent .
    That is the first time in my entire life that I have heard that said by anyone..

    So, other than roast beef and Yorshire pudding, what else would the rest of the world have ever heard of. The only nation on earth where mashed potatoes and margerine with canned peas and sausage would be called gourmet food....

    ...not to mention kippers, jellied eel, black pudding and bubble and squeak.....no wonder curry, pizza and burgers have taken over....

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    English food is excellent... h/b you been on the spiss.llf..fk-all wrong with bubble-squeak,with a dollop of tom-sauce...

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by "harrybarracuda"
    English food is excellent .
    That is the first time in my entire life that I have heard that said by anyone..

    So, other than roast beef and Yorshire pudding, what else would the rest of the world have ever heard of. The only nation on earth where mashed potatoes and margerine with canned peas and sausage would be called gourmet food....

    ...not to mention kippers, jellied eel, black pudding and bubble and squeak.....no wonder curry, pizza and burgers have taken over....

    Yes we saw your puny offerings on the Full English Breakfast Thread.

    You paltry heathens, you have nothing to offer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by "harrybarracuda"
    English food is excellent .
    That is the first time in my entire life that I have heard that said by anyone..

    So, other than roast beef and Yorshire pudding, what else would the rest of the world have ever heard of. The only nation on earth where mashed potatoes and margerine with canned peas and sausage would be called gourmet food....

    ...not to mention kippers, jellied eel, black pudding and bubble and squeak.....no wonder curry, pizza and burgers have taken over....

    Yes we saw your puny offerings on the Full English Breakfast Thread.

    You paltry heathens, you have nothing to offer.

    OK Harry, I'll agree on the "full English breakfast" I have one myself about once a week because it does taste good......but you have to have blood work done at least twice a year to make sure it's not killing you before your time..... I have to eat big bowls high fibre cereals and shit loads of fresh fruit for the other six days to balance out that one "English" breakfast....

    Lets face it; food is a very cultural thing. Thais think sticky rice and buffalo snot is aroi.....just add enought peppers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by "harrybarracuda"
    English food is excellent .
    That is the first time in my entire life that I have heard that said by anyone..

    So, other than roast beef and Yorshire pudding, what else would the rest of the world have ever heard of. The only nation on earth where mashed potatoes and margerine with canned peas and sausage would be called gourmet food....

    ...not to mention kippers, jellied eel, black pudding and bubble and squeak.....no wonder curry, pizza and burgers have taken over....

    Yes we saw your puny offerings on the Full English Breakfast Thread.

    You paltry heathens, you have nothing to offer.



    Its obvious this one has never been to the states.

    Take your crap and shit it out the other side. Some of the worst I have ever seen from you wankers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Its obvious this one has never been to the states.

    Take your crap and shit it out the other side. Some of the worst I have ever seen from you wankers.
    Hmmm let's see. New York, LA, San Jose, San Francisco, Dallas, Tucson, Chicago, Cleveland, St. Petersburg and Shreveport are the ones that spring to mind. Not bad coverage I would think, coast to coast, although no doubt you'll tell me the best food is in fucking Wyoming or some such backwater shithole.

    The most notable thing about the food in the US is that each portion appears to be designed for eight people, which probably explains why America is full of fat fuckers.

    The steaks have more hormones than a Lamaze class, the produce is genetically engineered to have you growing spare toes, and everything else is processed to shit with E numbers and fuck knows what other preservatives and colourings.

    Yeah, you can shove that stuff up your arse. It certainly isn't worth eating.


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    h/b.. are you related to the late bernard manning by any chance....

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Its obvious this one has never been to the states.

    Take your crap and shit it out the other side. Some of the worst I have ever seen from you wankers.
    Hmmm let's see. New York, LA, San Jose, San Francisco, Dallas, Tucson, Chicago, Cleveland, St. Petersburg and Shreveport are the ones that spring to mind. Not bad coverage I would think, coast to coast, although no doubt you'll tell me the best food is in fucking Wyoming or some such backwater shithole.

    The most notable thing about the food in the US is that each portion appears to be designed for eight people, which probably explains why America is full of fat fuckers.

    The steaks have more hormones than a Lamaze class, the produce is genetically engineered to have you growing spare toes, and everything else is processed to shit with E numbers and fuck knows what other preservatives and colourings.

    Yeah, you can shove that stuff up your arse. It certainly isn't worth eating.

    Spoken like a true assclown. I doubt that you spent anytime in those cities. You have no clue about the food supply in America except for what you watched on TV. Dig yourself a deeper grave nitwit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Spoken like a true assclown. I doubt that you spent anytime in those cities. You have no clue about the food supply in America except for what you watched on TV. Dig yourself a deeper grave nitwit.
    Not a lot of point having a conversation with a retard then, is there?

    Yes, the usual vacuous American response: "You're lying!" *stomp* *stomp*.

    What a fucking retard.

    I could go into detail about my American travels, but not a lot of point talking to a brain dead prick like yourself, you wouldn't like what you hear, would you?

    By the way, in order of preference, probably the best place I ate out of that lot was the Don CeSar Hotel in St. Petersburg, followed by a small tavern in Shreveport.

    But not a lot of point in elaborating, because I expect you're just a burger and fries man from your inane response.

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    Perhaps you'll listen to one of your countrymen. You stupid twat.

    New Challenges on the Safety of U.S. Meat: Oprah Right for Other Reasons, Says Professor of Environmental Medicine at University of Illinois School of Public Health
    CHICAGO, Feb. 2 /PRNewswire/ — The following was released today by Samuel S. Epstein, M.D., Professor of Environmental Medicine, University of Illinois School at Chicago of Public Health:
    The World Trade Organization (WTO) ruled in favor of the 1989 European ban on the use of sex hormones for growth promotion of cattle in feedlots prior to slaughter. While subject to further assessment before it can be made permanent, this ruling is a major victory for European consumers. It is also a major defeat for the United States and Canada which challenged the European ban claiming that it was "protectionist," costing over $100 million a year in lost exports, and that it reflected "consumerism versus science." The WTO ruling also raises serious concerns on the safety of U.S. meat, recently questioned on different grounds by Oprah Winfrey, based on the following considerations:
    • Confidential industry reports to the FDA, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, reveal high residues of natural and synthetic sex hormones in meat products even under ideal test conditions. This is contrary to repeated and explicit assurances by the FDA and USDA.
    • Following legal implantation in the ear of steers of Synovex-S, acombination of estradiol and progesterone, estradiol levels in meat products ranged up to 20-fold in excess of the normal. Based on conservative estimates, the amount of estradiol in two hamburgers eaten by an 8-year-old boy could increase his hormone levels by 10%.
    • Much higher hormone residues are found in meat products followingillegal implantation in cattle muscle which is commonplace in U.S. feedlots. The WTO ruled that such abuse alone would justify the European ban.
    • Contrary to repeated and explicit assurances by the FDA and USDA, none of the approximately 130 million U.S. livestock slaughtered annually are tested for residues of cancer-causing and gene-damaging estradiol or any related sex hormones. This misrepresentation has been confirmed by European Commission inspectors, in a November 1997 survey of U.S.control programs, who reported that there was no monitoring for residues of sex hormones nor for illegal animal drugs, including antibiotics, and that U.S. residue monitoring was totally inadequate to meet European standards.
    • Repeated assurances on the safety of hormonal meat by two World Health Organization bodies, the Food and Agriculture Organization and the Codex Alimentarius Commission (FAO/CODEX), reflect minimal expertise in public health, high representation of senior FDA and USDA officials and industry consultants, reliance on unpublished industry and outdated scientific information, and conflicts of interest. Paradoxically, the same Codex Commission which approved hormonal meat, explicitly warned over a decade ago that baby meat foods "shall be free from residues of hormones."
    • The endocrine-disruptive effects of estrogenic pesticides and other industrial food contaminants, known as xenoestrogens, are now under intensive investigation by U.S. regulatory and health agencies. But contamination of meat with residues of the thousands-fold more potent estradiol remains ignored.
    • Lifelong exposure to high residues of natural and synthetic sex hormones in meat products poses serious risks of breast and other reproductive cancers, whose incidence in the U.S. has sharply escalated since 1950 -- 55% for breast cancer, 120% for testicular cancer, and 230% for prostate cancer. Those residues have also been incriminated in increasing trends of precocious sexual development.
    Commenting on these facts, Samuel S. Epstein, M.D., Professor of Environmental Medicine at the University of Illinois Chicago, School of Public Health, stated: "The European ban on hormonal meat should serve as a long- overdue wake-up call for U.S. consumers to demand an immediate ban on hormone use or, minimally, the explicit labeling of hormonal meat products. It should also lead to a congressional investigation of the FDA and USDA for gross regulatory abdication besides suppression of information vital to consumer health. The dangers of U.S. hormonal meat can no longer be ignored."
    Contact: Samuel S. Epstein, M.D., Professor of Environmental Medicine at the University of Illinois Chicago School of Public Health and Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition, Chicago, 312-996-2297

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